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The U.S. still gets manual 6-speed option

Much of the sports car world today is moving away from the manual transmissions that driving purists and many drivers prefer to semi-automatic transmissions. The reasons for moving to a semi-automatic transmission are compelling and include faster gear changes, better fuel economy, and the ability to go full auto when you’re feeling lazy or plodding around in bumper-to-bumper traffic.
 
The downside is that part of the thrill of driving fast for many enthusiasts is working the shifter and clutch to perfection. But in the end, there’s no real right or wrong way to shift gears when it comes to modern automobiles. However, the ire of drivers comes in when their choice in gearbox is taken away.
 
Audi S5 

Fourtitude is reporting that Audi has killed the manual transmission option in its revamped S4 and S5 range of sporty cars in Europe. While Europe has to give up those 6-speed manual cars, the U.S. (land of the automatic transmission) is getting to keep its manual transmission. Audi is going to the S-tronic transmissions exclusively in Europe likely due to the faster shifting and better fuel economy.
 
The confirmation of the death of 6-speed S4 and S5 Audi's came by way of Audi's own Barry Hoch, the product planning manager of the S4 and S5 lines. Hoch emailed Fourtitude and wrote:
 
They (Europe) lose the manual. We keep the manual! 100% confirmed, although I don't know what other markets also get to keep it. I don't want to fear for my life when I leave the office. The manual transmission enthusiasts are... umm... passionate individuals. Save the Manuals!
 
This is the first time that the U.S. has had a transmission option that Europe didn’t get according to Fourtitude
 

Source: Fourtitude



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Yet another reason...
By EricMartello on 11/10/2011 12:54:45 PM , Rating: 2
...it sucks to be European.




RE: Yet another reason...
By FITCamaro on 11/10/2011 1:10:34 PM , Rating: 1
Agreed.

Audi showed such promise too...


RE: Yet another reason...
By TSS on 11/10/2011 2:59:15 PM , Rating: 2
Ok... so that's like what, 1000 reason it sucks to be american 20 to be europian?

We can handle 1 more.


RE: Yet another reason...
By Kurz on 11/10/2011 3:39:57 PM , Rating: 3
Eating Popcorn while I see the EU falls from former glory.


RE: Yet another reason...
By Omega215D on 11/10/2011 4:16:15 PM , Rating: 3
This is what I don't get, the Europeans have just as much problems as the US.


RE: Yet another reason...
By Keeir on 11/10/2011 4:28:59 PM , Rating: 4
Shhh, the illusionary belief that ones country is somehow inheriently better than others is all that keep some people back from the brink.

(Most developed countries are fairly equal. Your going to be better off in the country that suits you own particular personal style than forcing your way against the grain. )


RE: Yet another reason...
By Spuke on 11/10/2011 8:33:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Shhh, the illusionary belief that ones country is somehow inheriently better than others is all that keep some people back from the brink.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Best thing you've said all week!

quote:
Your going to be better off in the country that suits you own particular personal style than forcing your way against the grain.
But going against the grain is sooo much fun though! :)


RE: Yet another reason...
By Reclaimer77 on 11/10/2011 9:02:23 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Ok... so that's like what, 1000 reason it sucks to be american 20 to be europian?


Maybe that's because we sacrificed so many of our best and brightest, millions, in the two World Wars that YOU caused and we had to end; so you can sit here on a computer and talk shit.

Think about that when you go to bed you little punk.

p.s It's EUROPEAN you fucking idiot.


RE: Yet another reason...
By EricMartello on 11/10/11, Rating: 0
RE: Yet another reason...
By Reclaimer77 on 11/11/2011 10:37:52 AM , Rating: 2
Dude, Eric, I'm American. Read it again and see who I was responding to :D


RE: Yet another reason...
By gixser on 11/11/2011 6:47:19 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
What do you got over there? Diesel hatchbacks?


Sorry...can't let this shit slide.

Since I'm a Focus SVT kinda guy:

2009 Ford Focus RS: http://jalopnik.com/5535150/2010-ford-focus-rs-fir...

3rd Gen Civic Type R - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Civic_Type_R

Lotus Exige - R - GT http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/13/lotus-exige-r-g...

Koenigsegg: http://www.koenigsegg.com/

Pagani: http://www.pagani.com/it/zonda/default.aspx

Ariel: http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/

Not even going to mention Bentley, Rolls, BMW; Mercedes, Ferrari, Maserati, Lamborghini and a host of others.

Yeap. Europe also has diesal hatchbacks if that's what you want. Do you have two diesal hatchbacks to choose from in the US? Golf and A3? Nice choices.


RE: Yet another reason...
By EricMartello on 11/11/2011 10:14:23 PM , Rating: 1
All the cars you listed are fagmobiles. They're ideal for guys who think "accessorizing" is a manly activity.

quote:
Koenigsegg: http://www.koenigsegg.com/ Pagani: http://www.pagani.com/it/zonda/default.aspx Ariel: http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/


Nobody cares about these and...

quote:
Since I'm a Focus SVT kinda guy: 2009 Ford Focus RS: http://jalopnik.com/5535150/2010-ford-focus-rs-fir... 3rd Gen Civic Type R - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Civic_Type_R Lotus Exige - R - GT http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/13/lotus-exige-r-g...


...yeah...hatchbacks. Awesome.


RE: Yet another reason...
By gixser on 11/12/2011 10:50:53 PM , Rating: 2
Oh you are one crafty troll!

I see you didn't bother to educate me in the slightest with your no doubt profound insight into masculinity and what constitutes a great car. That's cool. I'll continue to read and laugh at your pointless drivel and just barely veiled ad hominens. If you can't appreciate the engineering in any of the above cars then you really are as dumb as your posts indicate.


RE: Yet another reason...
By EricMartello on 11/13/2011 2:38:03 PM , Rating: 2
quote:

2009 Ford Focus RS: http://jalopnik.com/5535150/2010-ford-focus-rs-fir...


Doesn't matter how 'fast' it is; it's still a Focus.

quote:
3rd Gen Civic Type R - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Civic_Type_R


Doesn't matter how 'fast' it is; it's still a Civic.

quote:
Lotus Exige - R - GT http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/13/lotus-exige-r-g...


Quite possibly the definition of trying too hard to make a car that is not an exotic appear to be an exotic. Needs more vents. Yeah definitely...more vents on that body to let that roaring toyota corolla engine stay cool.

quote:
Koenigsegg: http://www.koenigsegg.com/


Koenig's Egg? Great name for an undoubtedly great car...oh wait, this is just another botique car builder that doesn't really have any cred in the global automotive industry.

Here's a simple litmus test: if people ask you "what car is that?" you may as well be driving a fiero with a lambo body kit. Any respectable car people are going to know what it is when they first glance at it.

quote:
Pagani: http://www.pagani.com/it/zonda/default.aspx


Some italian guy decided that normal hondas weren't slow and ugly enough so he decided to make his own italian honda called the zonda.

quote:
Ariel: http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/


Do do do do DOOO do do do DOOOOO....under da sea...


RE: Yet another reason...
By gixser on 11/13/2011 7:17:17 PM , Rating: 2
Again I will quote you:
quote:
What do you got over there? Diesel hatchbacks?


Which one of the cars I pointed out is a diesal hatchback?

Perhaps I'm not making myself clear. You mockingly implied Europe has a poor selection of cars. I provided a sample that I believe proves you wrong without any difficulty. I could discard all the cars I've cited and come back with another list that would almost universally be accepted as being "desirable", or "exciting" or even "different". Yet, for some strange reason I doubt very much that you would accept that as proof enough for you.

I've yet to see you reply with anything that could even remotely be considered a valid retort and I doubt I ever will.

Keep up the good work!


RE: Yet another reason...
By EricMartello on 11/14/2011 9:25:14 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Perhaps I'm not making myself clear. You mockingly implied Europe has a poor selection of cars. I provided a sample that I believe proves you wrong without any difficulty. I could discard all the cars I've cited and come back with another list that would almost universally be accepted as being "desirable", or "exciting" or even "different". Yet, for some strange reason I doubt very much that you would accept that as proof enough for you.


You listed a bunch of non-diesel hatchbacks and a few botique cars that don't matter. The average driver in Europe is putting around in a diesel hatch due to high gas prices over there. You think that by listing a few cars that used to be available there changes anything? A market with drivers who enjoy driving would have a sizable demand for performance cars with manual transmissions - Europe does not. Remind us again why you're still posting in this thread.


RE: Yet another reason...
By xrodney on 11/11/2011 2:30:48 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe you should check number before speak !
USA lost around 400k soldiers and almost no civilians in WW2
If you thing thats bad check facts for each European country, most of them lost more civilians then USA did with soldiers and they have much smaller population then USA.

I dont say we are not glad for help, but you fight oversea with your civilian population mostly save but when we tried to fight back nacist wiped whole cities just as punishment and were killing people left ent right just because they were not what they called pure race.


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