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China denied the accusations that it hacked the Landsat-7 and Terra AM-1 satellites

The U.S. suspected Chinese involvement in the hacking of environment-monitoring satellites back in 2007 and 2008, but today, Beijing has denied these accusations.

The U.S. has been in a cyber war with China for about a decade now. China uses freelance hackers and official hackers to infiltrate international businesses, government servers, etc. in an attempt to obtain useful information. In the recent past, China has been suspected to be involved in the hacking of the U.S. power grid, cyber attacks on oil companies, the Lockheed Martin hack in May 2011, and the Gmail accounts hack in June 2011.

According to the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission's annual report, the Landsat-7 and Terra AM-1 satellites, which are two U.S. satellites used to map the Earth's terrain and monitor climate change, were disrupted in 2007 and 2008.

In October 2007 and July 2008, the Landsat-7 had 12 minutes of interference. June 2008 and October 2008, the Terra AM-1 experienced two minutes and nine minutes of interference respectively.

According to the annual report, the hackers were able to cause these disruptions by gaining access to a control station in Norway. Such actions could lead to the destruction of the satellites or false manipulation of the satellites' transmissions.

The report doesn't list China as a suspect for the hack directly, but it does say the hacks are "consistent with recent Chinese military writings" that mention the disabling of a rival's satellites. It also mentions that China is suspected to be behind a number of other hacks in the U.S. in the past year.

"I'd be a lot happier if I knew exactly what their intent was," said Bruce Carlson, National Reconnaissance Office director. "They're an incredibly modern society, but their military philosophy goes all the way back to probably, 4,000 years ago. They believe in deception, that's just one of their mantras so I remain concerned about their intent, and exactly what it is, I do not know -- but I'm concerned about it."

Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hong Lei responded to the accusations by denying China's involvement and saying it's a victim of cyber attacks as well.

"[The U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission] has always been viewing China with colored lenses," said Lei. "This report is untrue and has ulterior motives. It's not worth a comment. [China] is also a victim of hacking attacks and will oppose any form of cyber crime, including hacking."

Sources: Reuters, Defense Tech

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RE: Doesn't matter
By NellyFromMA on 10/31/2011 12:52:58 PM , Rating: 2
One side is bound to have had enough with the other at some point, no? I seem to see a ratcheting up over the passed couple of years, especially the last 6-10 months IMO.

Now, just curious... if there was a war between China and America, would Chinese debt mean nothing? And what impact would that have on our debt overall?

I'm no expert, I'm just saying it seems like China has had intel on US activities economically, militarily and other strategic areas for about 7-10 years now, primarily via hacking.

Why not lend to them? We won't pay it back.

Also, I'm curious... of all American debt to these Chinese originating in the passed 50-60 years, have we paid back any of it? If anyone knows I'd be interested to hear.

Just my two cents.

RE: Doesn't matter
By NellyFromMA on 10/31/2011 12:53:49 PM , Rating: 2
Haha, lend from them, not to them. Oops.

RE: Doesn't matter
By bobsmith1492 on 10/31/2011 1:17:20 PM , Rating: 2
I think the word is "borrow." ;-)

RE: Doesn't matter
By mfenn on 10/31/2011 1:19:20 PM , Rating: 2
I think the word you are looking for is "borrow".

RE: Doesn't matter
By AntiM on 10/31/2011 1:30:09 PM , Rating: 2
China has already won the war,.. the economic war. If the US were to default on their loans from China, our economy would come to a halt. We wouldn't be able to import any oil, food, or anything else we get from China and other Asian countries.
The money you have in your bank account would be worthless.
I don't see the US getting itself in a war with China or any other major country anytime soon. The US Military Industrial Complex is quite happy chasing so called terrorists in middle eastern countries while defense contractors make obscene amounts of money, which of course gets funneled back to corrupt government pockets.

RE: Doesn't matter
By gamerk2 on 10/31/2011 2:03:27 PM , Rating: 2
Not quite: China needs to maintain 10%+ GDP growth in order to sustain itself, and its done that largly by devaluing its currency against the dollar. They tank our economy, and they'll have about a billion pesents at their door in VERY short order.

You see, there is no economic conflict, just co-dependency. Economic co-dependency is the one WMD that can bring an end to all conflict. [No one wants war if theres no profit in it]

RE: Doesn't matter
By ianweck on 11/1/2011 5:11:46 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. We have China by the shorthairs just as much as they have us. Without the U.S. buying all of their plastic landfill their growth would drop off dramatically. Too bad the self-haters out there never seem to see that.

RE: Doesn't matter
By FITCamaro on 10/31/11, Rating: 0
RE: Doesn't matter
By integr8d on 10/31/2011 3:14:40 PM , Rating: 1
'Military Industrial Complex' is the accepted nomenclature for the companies that comprise of that specific business sector. There's nothing "bullshit" about it.

Do you have numbers to back up that 'FAR more' statement? I think that in doing your due diligence, you'll discover that unions typically restrict their donations to one political party, while defense companies favor one party but will point their money toward whichever way the prevailing winds blow.

RE: Doesn't matter
By FITCamaro on 11/1/11, Rating: 0
RE: Doesn't matter
By FITCamaro on 11/1/2011 8:07:52 AM , Rating: 2
Hell in the top 20 there, 14 are solidly or almost completely to Democrats.

RE: Doesn't matter
By AntiM on 11/1/2011 8:10:15 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not talking about campaign contributions, I talking about illegal transactions, and other "favors".

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