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Nokia Lumia 710
Nokia officially announces its first two Windows Phone 7.5 devices

Eight months after Microsoft and Nokia announced that they would be joining forces in the smartphone market, the first two Windows Phone 7.5 devices from Nokia will start to saunter into the marketplace later this year in select markets.
 
I. Lumia 810 will tackle the high-end
When it comes to doing battle with the latest high-end smartphones running Android and iOS, Nokia is offering up its new Lumia 800. The hardware specs won't impress anyone from the Android camp, as the Lumia 800 features a 3.7" AMOLED ClearBlack curved display (800x480), a single-core, 1.4GHz Qualcomm processor, and just 16GB of internal memory (there's no microSD slot for expansion, although Nokia does provide 25GB of free SkyDrive access).
 
The Lumia 800 may not feature a dual-core processor, but Microsoft says that such firepower isn't needed for the Windows Phone 7.x platform… for now. "They're all single core, but I suspect that they will be faster in usage than any dual-core phone that you put against it, and that’s the point," said Windows Phone chief Andy Lees in an interview with AllThingsD earlier this month.

 
Nokia smartphones have been known in the past for their excellent cameras, and the Lumia 800 is no exception. The smartphone offers up an 8MP rear camera with an f/2.2 aperture and Carl Zeiss optics.
 
And for those of you familiar with Nokia's N9, the sleek shape of the Lumia 800 should be instantly recognizable. The Lumia 800 is constructed of a single piece of polycarbonate plastic and features a curved Gorilla glass display. It is, however, a bit on the chunky side at 12.1mm thick and weighs 5 ounces.
 
Nokia says that the Lumia 800 is good for 9.5 hours of 3G talk time, 55 hours of music playback, and 7 hours of video playback.

 
The Lumia 800 (available in Cyan, Black, and Magenta) will have a retail price of around $535 USD and will be released in Europe in November, and in Asia by the end of the year. There is no word on U.S. availability, but recent reports suggest that U.S. customers won't have access to the phone until next year.
 
II. Those on a budget can look at Nokia's Lumia 710
If the Lumia 800's $535 price tag is a tough pill to swallow, Nokia also announced the Lumia 710. The Lumia 710 features the same 1.4GHz processor as its more sophisticated brother, but includes a 5MP camera and lacks the AMOLED display. The smartphone also only comes with 8GB of internal storage, but it unlike the Lumia 800, it includes a microSD slot for expansion. It will be available in black and white, but more colorful backplates will be available for purchase.
 
When it comes to battery life, the Lumia 710 is rated at 7.6 hours of 3G talk time, 38 hours of music playback, and 6 hours of video playback.

 
III. It's all in the software
Of course, both the Lumia 800 and 710 are running Windows Phone 7.5 "Mango". Nokia abandoned its own smartphones efforts with MeeGo and Symbian to embrace Microsoft's sleek mobile operating system. To help differentiate its products from other Windows Phone devices on the market, the Lumia 800 and 710 will feature Nokia Drive turn-by-turn navigation, Nokia Music, and the ESPN Sports Hub as integral portions of the UI.

"Eight months ago, we shared our new strategy and today we are demonstrating clear progress of this strategy in action. We're driving innovation throughout our entire portfolio, from new smartphone experiences to ever smarter mobile phones," said Stephen Elop, Nokia President and CEO. "From the Nokia Lumia 800 to the Nokia Asha 201, we are bringing compelling new products to the market faster than ever before. I'm incredibly proud of these new devices - and the people of Nokia who have made this happen." 

Source: Nokia



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RE: An important moment
By Da W on 10/26/2011 9:04:25 AM , Rating: 2
I don't see why it wouldn't sell. Especially with no carrier bias in Europe and no sales people only trying to sell droids. HTC radar went like cupcakes in Russia.


RE: An important moment
By nafhan on 10/26/2011 9:49:07 AM , Rating: 2
I'm actually having a hard time seeing why they would sell.
MS is fighting an uphill battle against the entrenched Apple and Google ecosystems, here. When that's the case, you really need to come in with better handsets for a lower price, but it looks like MS/Nokia is coming with comparable/inferior handsets for a similar price.

They are nice looking phones, though. If MS is willing to put a bunch of money into a rebate program or something, I could see these things selling. At this point, MS needs to get a bunch of people using WP7.


RE: An important moment
By althaz on 10/26/2011 10:27:10 AM , Rating: 2
Except that they are coming in with WAY better phones for a similar price. Sure, they are mostly superior because of WP7 rather than Nokia, but better is better :).


RE: An important moment
By Taft12 on 10/26/2011 6:38:58 PM , Rating: 4
WebOS, PalmOS and OS/2 were better OSes too.

Better doesn't always matter, and calling WP better than Android or iOS is a very subjective opinion.


RE: An important moment
By kaosstar on 10/27/2011 10:41:46 AM , Rating: 2
Indeed. The HP Touchpad arguably had a better OS and overall experience than the Ipad 2, but was battling an entrenched giant with a loyal customer base, a huge app library, and superior hardware. Sounding a lot like Nokia, and they're about to repeat HP's mistake.


RE: An important moment
By michael67 on 10/27/2011 3:18:29 PM , Rating: 2
I played extensive with the HTC Radar from a coworker, and have to say from all the mobile OSes that are out there, its the most easy to use, the learning curve is mouths lower then on android. (I use my self a Galaxy S Plus)

For my next mobile will WP Mango be on my shortlist as OS, And i have to say, had a demo model in my hands of the Nokia Lumia 800, And man it is one hell of a nice looking phone.
Living in Norway as a other Scandinavian country, we uselessly get the first hands on on new Nokia models.

And the Black version is imho on the moment the most beautiful mobile that's on the market.

And imo is Nokia back, the only problem is that not many people have used Mango, so it has not had a lot mouth to mouth advertizing.

But I have to say, if people start using Mango, they will fall in love whit it, I was very skeptical at first, but I am sold that WP should at least be on anyone's shortlist for there mobile OS.

Only question I have is, how it holds up whit mobile 3D gaming, as the OS is lighting fast, but the hardware it self is pretty mid range compared to Android.


RE: An important moment
By The Insolent One on 10/27/2011 7:38:52 PM , Rating: 2
Wow michael67 that post was a challenge to read.

I almost had to reach for my Babel fish.


RE: An important moment
By BrgMx5 on 10/26/2011 10:59:36 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
MS is fighting an uphill battle against the entrenched Apple and Google ecosystems, here


MS is clearly going after first time smartphone buyers, and turn around nokia brand defection (grab symbian upgrades to MS OS)

All analysts point to a big growth of new smartphone owners and MS/Nokia are going after them. If they market it right, i can see them succeed.

Phones and OS look cool, and if the interface is IOS smooth, great for them.


RE: An important moment
By Samus on 10/26/2011 2:01:36 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
it looks like MS/Nokia is coming with comparable/inferior handsets for a similar price.


A statement made by someone who clearly has never touched a Nokia product. They have among the most superior build quality in the electronics industry, period.

Basically Nokia is to phones what the (original) IBM Thinkpad is to laptops: legendary build quality.

That already places them above practically any China/Taiwan manufacture (looking at you, HTC) and still edges out Samsung, LG, S/E, RIM and yes, even Apple.


RE: An important moment
By Aloonatic on 10/26/2011 2:19:20 PM , Rating: 1
I admit, I've not really held a top end Nokia for a while, but I used to have a N95 (8GB) before my HTC desire, and I then bought a C1 recently (so not top end) to cover for my HTC Desire after it was run over on the driver way, before my contract was up.

The N95 broke before it's time, but at least it never stopped sliding properly. Sadly, the call end button fell out after part of the body snapped off in my pocket.

The C1 was OK, but the coating of the case started to rub off and the back stopped fitting snugly after the 3rd or fourth cover removal, and I only had i for 5 months before getting my new phone.

So I've had Nokias, and I'd say that their build is nothing special, but that's purely anecdotal, I'll admit.


RE: An important moment
By nafhan on 10/26/2011 3:39:11 PM , Rating: 1
I was referring to the whole package (software, hardware, ecosystem, etc.). Build quality is important, but not the only thing to consider.

Further, it's not necessarily something that's going to move a lot of product. It's arguable, but your example regarding IBM's Thinkpad division speaks to that... Basically, people will avoid horrible build quality, but most will be satisfied with the level of quality provided by they companies you mentioned.


RE: An important moment
By lecanard on 10/26/2011 2:49:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Phones and OS look cool, and if the interface is IOS smooth, great for them.


It's smoother than iOS. I borrowed a Focus for a while and tried Mango out and now I can't wait for the Lumia so I can leave iOS behind. iOS is nice but just can't compare.


RE: An important moment
By Mitch101 on 10/26/2011 12:14:04 PM , Rating: 5
The Windows Phone 7.5 OS is great the hardware/formfactor is second its lightning fast even with a single core.

What people need to understand its not just about the phone its the surrounding infrastructure that Microsoft brings with it that makes the phone incredible.

Once people understand how the Metro interface/Tiles works and use the device to see how fast and responsive the Windows Phones are to understand why they are so good.

METRO
All the information I need is right there on the phone without me opening any apps to check if I have e-mail and how many since I last checked, upcoming meetings, text messages since I last checked, voicemails, Stock UP/Down, Weather etc. all at a glance of the screen without opening any of the apps.

Microsoft Office
Chances are you have office at work nothing is better than having outlook integrated into your phone to sync with Microsoft Exchange. Powerpoint presentation not a problem I have it right here let me e-mail it to you. If you have Sharepoint its even better I can check out documents and review them on the plane.

Memory
Almost insignificant because you have the cloud and if you have a home server its infinite storage. I take pictures with mine and when my wife is in front of the computer the cloud downloads it to the PC. No need to sync.

Wireless Sync
Yes other phones have this but Microsoft had it day 1 even my first generation Zune 1 brick has it. I plug in my phone to be charged in the kitchen and 10 minutes later it wirelessly syncs with my PC updating all my podcasts and music I selected because I tend to forget to tether my phone to the PC.

Voice to Text.
My wife sends me text messages and the phone reads them to me. Using my voice I can then tell my phone reply I then speak a message and it translates my voice to text and I tell it to send. All using my voice while driving the car. And its DAMN good at translating my voice to text sometimes a little slow but its better than someone texting while driving. My eyes never have to leave the road.

I love not having to search for my apps any more too I can launch them with my voice. Open

X-Box control
If you havent seen Microsoft TV coming to the X-Box watch it with the windows Phone you can control the x-box using the phone. I would personally use kinect but will see. Some games will allow you to interact with the game using the phone I wish Madden would allow you to do this so I could select a play without the person Im playing against seeing what play Ive selected but its there.

SKYPE
Microsoft owns Skype if anything this is going to get really cool when they fully integrate all options here if you haven't seen Microsoft Lync and how you can switch video conversations to the tablet and walk to the conference you will want this.

Sure past Microsoft Phones ran out of innovation but the Windows Phone is Excellent you wont get the full picture by even playing with the phone you need to explore all the surrounding abilities of the phone to get how good it is.


RE: An important moment
By nafhan on 10/26/2011 1:18:03 PM , Rating: 2
I can't do Exchange because of security policies where I work (WP7 wouldn't change that), but everything else on the list I already do (or do something equivalent) with my Android phone.

Anyway, I'm not saying WP7 is bad - rather the opposite in fact. I'm saying it's competing against two entrenched, successful competitors. Doing some stuff a little better while doing other stuff a little worse, generally isn't enough in that scenario.


RE: An important moment
By Taft12 on 10/26/2011 6:46:10 PM , Rating: 1
Copy/paste from the marketing PDF?


RE: An important moment
By TakinYourPoints on 10/26/2011 9:02:46 PM , Rating: 2
I totally agree, looks absolutely fantastic, first good non-iOS smartphone in a long time.


RE: An important moment
By Da W on 10/26/2011 2:27:51 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
MS is fighting an uphill battle against the entrenched Apple and Google ecosystems


The key word here is ecosystem, and although i won't argue against Apple ecosystem which is perfect for computer illeterate rich baby-boomers, what exactly does Google's ecosystem offer that Microsoft does not? Sync? Cloud? E-mail? Google Doc? Google plus? Apps? You can access all that via a PC, and so via a Windows phone.

Microsoft has some exclusive offering, namely office, zune and x-box. Now THAT'S an ecosystem. You might not want it but that's what an ecosystem is. As far as the 36386 apps go, it's more than enough for the casual user.

As far as harware go, this is not 1996 where you buy a computer based on it's megahertz frenquency. Most of HTC and Samsung windows phones are Android models ported to the windows OS, only all with the same CPU. But who cares about the CPU? I want quality antena, camera, sound, screen and a phone that works. Period.


RE: An important moment
By Moishe on 10/28/2011 9:49:43 AM , Rating: 2
Not everyone is like you (or me).
I am looking for an upgrade, and everytime I use iOS or Andriod... I just don't get the warm fuzzies. It's not that the OSes are bad, they just don't excite me (like WebOS did).

I tried WP7 and liked it. I need to try Mango.

My WebOS phone is starting to becoming difficult to use because it's so damn slow.


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