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Karma is too heavy for sipping fuel

The official EPA numbers came out recently for the Fisker Karma and they were much, much lower than many expected. The EPA rated the Karma at a scant 20 mpg on gasoline. Considering the car was supposed to be a green hybrid, it's rating is disappointing, especially when you think that other hybrids of the size can achieve much better numbers. The all-electric (battery) range is rated at 32 miles for a combined 56 mpg-e.
 
If you were wondering why a car with a hybrid power plant was rated so low on gasoline power, it’s due to the massive weight of the Karma. The Karma has a curb weight of 5,300 pounds. Most of the weight is due to the heavy and expensive lithium-ion battery pack that motivates the Karma in electric mode.

The Fisker Karma weighs nearly as much as an 8-passenger Ford Expedition 

With the low economy rating of the Karma and the fact that Fisker was one of the green firms that was loaned $529 million in federal funds, some are afraid it will be the next Solyndra. Solyndra is the solar firm that went under after receiving Federal funds for operation. While the EPA thinks its numbers for the Karma are accurate, Henrik Fisker thinks that drivers will see a better driving range.
 
Fisker said, "We firmly believe that most owners will get up to 50 miles of driving range on a single charge, and will use our electric-only mode most of the time they drive the car."
 
Much of the Karma is already made from aluminum, so the place to save weight is going to be the battery pack. This will be something that happens in the future as battery technology improves. Another choice would be going to lighter and more exotic materials for the construction like carbon fiber.
 
The problem is that the Karma is already priced at about $96,000 and moving to exotic materials would only drive that cost up. So far 1,300 people have placed deposits on the Karma


Fisker Karma

Source: Plugincars



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RE: I missed my calling
By idiot77 on 10/25/2011 3:32:55 PM , Rating: 0
Also known as capitalism.


RE: I missed my calling
By NicodemusMM on 10/25/2011 6:49:51 PM , Rating: 2
I would argue that his statement could more easily apply to politicking.

Anyway... Crony capitalism excluded, products like this would never find their way to market in a truly capitalistic society. The risk would be too great to bring something so half-baked to market... unless the average consumer is uneducated and or unmotivated. At that point they'll just buy anything and companies could do as they please.

Oh, wait...


RE: I missed my calling
By Ryrod on 10/26/2011 12:48:57 AM , Rating: 2
You must not watch a whole lot of infomercials and 'as seen on tv' product ads. Most of those products are risky and they are extremely half-baked, but tons are bought up each day. Don't overestimate the average consumer's intelligence and motivation.


RE: I missed my calling
By autoboy on 10/26/2011 5:51:12 PM , Rating: 2
Are you seriously comparing a 90K car to a two-for-$20 automatic pot stirrer?

Does it take a billion dollars to invent a vegetable chopper? You get those products because they are cheap to invent, cheap to make, and cheap to market.


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