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Google had fought to keep Oracle from using the email against it

Last year, Oracle sued Google for patent infringement concerning the Android mobile operating system. Oracle claimed that Google had infringed on Java-related patents and copyrights, and Oracle had purchased the rights to Java in 2009 when it purchased Sun Microsystems for $5.6 billion.

Google said it had looked into using other programming languages for its Android mobile operating system, but they apparently didn't meet Google's standards.

"Java is essential for Android," said Al Hilwa, of research firm IDC. "Since Android has been out there for more than a year, most people would have expected they were in compliance with whatever license terms apply."

Not long before Oracle filed its lawsuit, Google had created an email saying that it needed to "negotiate a license for Java." Once the lawsuit erupted, Google fought to keep the email from being used by Oracle in the case.

But now, U.S. District Judge William Alsup ruled in an order on Thursday that the email is not protected by the attorney client privilege.

"Google has failed to identify any aspect of the challenged order that was clearly erroneous or contrary to law," said Alsup in the ruling.

While this doesn't look good for Google, Alsup already partially granted a request by Google to throw out Oracle's $2.6 billion in damages, saying that 90 percent of the Oracle patents were ruled invalid.

Reports have also noted that Google could drop parts of Java's J2SE code from the Android mobile operating system and avoid further Java-related issues with Oracle.

Source: Reuters

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RE: This is a big deal
By Murst on 10/21/2011 10:43:26 AM , Rating: 2
That would only limit the licensing fee they would need to pay going forward. It would have nothing to do w/ the damages they would need to pay for past infringement.

This could potentially be huge for google/oracle. Google probably sold a hundred million devices running android. According to rumors, MS is charging something like $10 per android device, so Oracle could argue that it needs a similar fee, which would bring the price up to 1 billion. Throw in a multiplier for willful infringement, and that could go to something like $3-$7 billion. At least that's how I think willful infringement penalties work...

RE: This is a big deal
By melgross on 10/21/2011 11:07:24 AM , Rating: 2
If willful infringement is found, it's a triple multiple, which is one reason why Google is fighting this so much. While Oracle's claims as to amount have been thrown out, if it comes to a jury trial, as it looks Oracle wants, the sky is the limit.

RE: This is a big deal
By Horizon79 on 10/21/2011 3:27:34 PM , Rating: 2
MS takes less than $5 per handset, at least their balance sheet shows so. Per handset licenses are not possible because most of the handset makers are already having Sun's J2ME license in pocket, i.e. they didn't infringe those patents or copyrights.

RE: This is a big deal
By Murst on 10/21/2011 4:35:36 PM , Rating: 2
Oracle isn't suing the handset manufacturers. They're suing Google.

RE: This is a big deal
By Fritzr on 10/22/2011 3:14:19 AM , Rating: 2
In addition they are not suing on the basis of using J2ME. The lawsuit is based on Dalvik which is the Google version of Java that (according to the claims) incorporates copyrighted source code from Sun Java.

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