Fisker Karma Hybrid Receives Lower-Than-Expected EPA Rating
October 20, 2011 8:44 AM
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Fisker Karma plug-in hybrid
Fisker says "range varies greatly on the conditions of the road and how you drive the car"
Fisker Automotive's range-extended plug-in hybrid, the Fisker Karma, has received a lower-than-expected EPA rating that falls below the likes of the Chevrolet Volt and the 2012 Toyota Prius Plug-In.
Over the past few years, Fisker Automotive has claimed that its
$96,000 Fisker Karma
would receive 50 miles of all-electric range. But the official EPA rating has been released, and it says otherwise.
The EPA rated the Fisker Karma at 52 mpg-equivalent (mpg-e) for combined city and highway driving. This means 32 miles of all-electric range and 20 mpg when the gasoline engine takes over.
"As with all
, range varies greatly on the conditions of the road and how you drive the car," said Fisker in a statement after the EPA ratings were released. "Overall, we are very pleased with the results of the EPA's tests."
Fisker added that the Karma's 52 mpg-e is not far off from the 54 mpg fleet average that the Obama administration expects in 2025, which is still 14 years away.
In comparison, the 2012 Chevrolet Volt has a price tag of $39,995 and an EPA rating of 93 mpg-e with a 37-mile all-electric range, and 37 mpg with the gasoline engine. The 2012 Toyota Prius Plug-In is priced at $32,760 with an expected 87 mpg-e.
Fisker Karma production kicked off in March 2011, and by July, it was reported that Fisker had 3,000 Karma orders and
sold out until early 2012
. The Karma runs off batteries, and once depleted, it uses a 2-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine to recharge the batteries and run for an extended range.
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RE: 20 mpg is pathetic
10/21/2011 1:08:09 PM
No I don't hate the Karma. I don't care if people buy it.
I'm saying for $57,000, I wouldn't buy a car that gets under 30 mpg when it only has a 2.0L engine and is supposedly "environmentally friendly".
Now I do hate though that the tax payer helped front over $500 million dollars for this thing and its not even going to be built here like the administration claimed and bragged about to justify the loan. All so wealthier people can buy a fancy electric car that gets shitty mileage and still feel good about themselves.
RE: 20 mpg is pathetic
10/21/2011 2:35:00 PM
So many wrongs.
#1. The Fisker Karma is a 95,000+ dollar car. The forthcoming Tesla Model S is rumored to start at 57,000.
#2. The Government loan was for Project Nina. A car that will be built in the USA in Delaware. Project Nina will be a 3/5 series compeditor and is rumored to use the same engine as the BMW 528i. I repeat, the Fisker Karma is NOT Project Nina. Similiar to Tesla, Fisker is first producing an Ultra Lux Car, then a Luxury Sedan, and then normal Sedan. The concept in both cases is by the time the normal sedan is being developed, costs and efficienies will rise.
#3. No, the Karma travels 30+ miles at 65 kWh/100 miles. Only if exceeding 30 miles from the large recharge would the "20" MPG come into play.
If you personally travel farther than 30 miles between recharge often, then the Fisker Karma is obviously not the right choice for you.
In any Plug-In Series Hybrid Concept the ICE is there for emergency use, long term travel use, etc. A Plug-In Series Hybrid is not for the traveling salesman. Its a replacement for the 75%+ of automobiles that rarely leave a 30 miles radius of thier garage location.
A simple question FIT. How much range would an electric car need to have before you would use it as Primary Car? How much range would the same car need to have if it had an emergency backup that could convert easily available fuels into electricity? I am guess the answer the first is 300+ miles and the answer to the second is about 5-10 miles further than your roundtrip to work. That's a HUGE differen ce in required battery size.... in essense a 100 mile AER PHEV with a backup will be cheaper than a 300 miles BEV.... and 3! 100 mile AER PHEV can be built with the same amount of battery material. Thats the point of the Karma. It allows for 2-3 Karma's to be built using essentially the same resources as a single Tesla Roadster.
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