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Apple's iPhone 4S sizzles in its first few days of availability

Critics, analysts, and some iFans were initially disappointed when the iPhone 4S was announced earlier this month, but the buying public didn't seem to be bothered by the "warmed over iPhone 4" when it was officially made available this past Friday. After seeing initial pre-orders top one million units, Apple announced today that it sold over four million iPhone 4Ses over the weekend.

For comparison, Apple sold 1.7 million units of the iPhone 4 during its first three days of availbility.
 
“iPhone 4S is off to a great start with more than four million sold in its first weekend—the most ever for a phone and more than double the iPhone 4 launch during its first three days,” said Phil Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing. “iPhone 4S is a hit with customers around the world, and together with iOS 5 and iCloud, is the best iPhone ever.”

 
The iPhone 4S features an 800MHz dual-core A5 processor, 8MP rear camera, dual-mode CDMA/GSM network compatibility, and Siri voice recognition technology. Prices range from $199 for the 16GB iPhone 4S to $399 for the 64GB model with a two-year contract.

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RE: Cheaper products please
By Reclaimer77 on 10/17/2011 11:03:13 AM , Rating: 5
Welcome to Daily Tech, Chef!

No need to be rude here, you're becoming aware. But you've touched on one of the reasons Apple is as profitable as they are, and why I and others refuse to buy into it. Apple is the king of price gouging. They exploit third world labor to the point that they can actually make something like the iPhone for about 35% of what it sells for. On top of that they won't even add a memory card slot, but instead "offer" you even more expensive models with higher storage like they're doing you a freaking favor. I just added added 32gigs to my phone for $50 bucks with an MicroSD card.

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This leads me to think that in the current economic climate that there are more options and better deals out there that myself as a culprit have probably ignored.


Totally. Get out of that walled garden man!


RE: Cheaper products please
By Pirks on 10/17/2011 11:32:16 AM , Rating: 2
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Get out of that walled garden!
Said Reclaimer to an animal in a zoo. Do you know what happens to zoo bred animals when you release them in the wild?


RE: Cheaper products please
By EasyC on 10/17/2011 12:04:35 PM , Rating: 2
They get products worth buying with features people actually want?


RE: Cheaper products please
By Pirks on 10/17/2011 12:38:16 PM , Rating: 2
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Do you know what happens to zoo bred animals when you release them in the wild?
They get products worth buying with features people actually want?
Right, sure they are!

Let's see how this happens. First, you let the zoo animal in the wild. Second, say some wild leopard in some savanna comes up to it and politely asks: "Dear zoo animal from the walled garden, would you like some product with features you want, like maybe a bowl of food they were feeding you in the zoo?"


RE: Cheaper products please
By Reclaimer77 on 10/17/2011 12:44:18 PM , Rating: 1
Wow...you guys still on about the zoo analogy right? I mean, seems kind of silly to me. Not even worth me responding to it, really.


RE: Cheaper products please
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/17/2011 12:58:54 PM , Rating: 3
It is Pirks after all. Him and his idiotic analogies.


RE: Cheaper products please
By Pirks on 10/17/2011 1:28:10 PM , Rating: 2
cheesy clown strikes again!!!


RE: Cheaper products please
By retrospooty on 10/17/2011 1:58:17 PM , Rating: 2
"It is Pirks after all. Him and his idiotic analogies. "

Glad to hear it isnt just me that noticed that. He's right out of left field sometimes.


RE: Cheaper products please
By Pirks on 10/17/2011 5:26:58 PM , Rating: 2
What is anti-RIM troll retro doing here? This is not RIM thread, get outta here :P


RE: Cheaper products please
By Tony Swash on 10/17/11, Rating: -1
RE: Cheaper products please
By Reclaimer77 on 10/17/2011 12:05:46 PM , Rating: 3
I like how you can post all that, and still ignore the fact that the OP was starting to question the "value" he's getting. You know, the guy who started this thread and who I was conversing with?

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Of course when I say 'value' and 'Apple product' in the same sentence your eyes roll


A little, yeah, because I'm not part of this social movement and Me2 Club that is the Apple customer base. I don't measure the value of a device by how it makes me "feel". I don't really give a damn how popular something is either. And I find your constant attempt to make a more deeper meaning out of this comical.

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Reclaimer you remind of the sad, odd looking guy with the 'We are All Doomed" banner


I would say what you remind me of, but I'm taking the high road.


RE: Cheaper products please
By Tony Swash on 10/17/11, Rating: -1
RE: Cheaper products please
By sprockkets on 10/17/2011 2:07:40 PM , Rating: 3
I want a product without a douchebag reputation, one where I can get a phone without paying a useless premium on looks, or being able to replace parts that for years were replaceable until someone took that right from me.

Answer: The rest of the fcking world.


RE: Cheaper products please
By Reclaimer77 on 10/17/2011 3:04:14 PM , Rating: 1
I think we've all just witnesses a crazy person in action. The guy just made up an imaginary survey in his own mind complete with imaginary answers. Is there anything more to say?

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Imagine the questions...


...that a therapist would have for you? Imagine that please, then imagine yourself getting help.


RE: Cheaper products please
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/17/2011 3:55:45 PM , Rating: 2
Like I said in another post, I honestly think he is insane.


RE: Cheaper products please
By Tony Swash on 10/17/2011 4:02:44 PM , Rating: 1
OK brainbox - why do you think so many millions of people just decided to buy an iPhone 4s?


RE: Cheaper products please
By Pirks on 10/17/2011 5:50:25 PM , Rating: 2
Because Steve Jobs ate their brains, that is why.

On a more serious note, Tony, how many more months (or years?) will it take you to read this forum before you learn to predict Reclaimer's (or any other anti-Apple troll's) answers? It took me less than six months, you think you gonna be faster than me huh? ;)


RE: Cheaper products please
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/17/2011 6:39:25 PM , Rating: 2
And you are obviously are mentally ill as well.


RE: Cheaper products please
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/17/2011 6:41:29 PM , Rating: 2
Are obviously mentally ill*


RE: Cheaper products please
By Pirks on 10/17/2011 6:44:22 PM , Rating: 2
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And you are obviously are
cheesy clown are a little too excited are? heheheee :))))


RE: Cheaper products please
By MechanicalTechie on 10/17/2011 7:52:53 PM , Rating: 2
Tony the average person is a techo-retard and cares more about fitting into popular culture than actually reseaching a product. Anyone that took the time to investigate Apple, would easily find something they object about... either on moral grounds, technical limitations, the Apple screw me policy or innovation inhibitor(yes thats what a patent troll does). Your hard-on for Apple is making you look like a fool.


RE: Cheaper products please
By robinthakur on 10/18/2011 5:00:38 AM , Rating: 2
I wouldn't put it quite like that. They are not necessarily techno-retards, they just don't care about the technical aspects as much as you and others seem to. They are also in the majoriy here. The fact is that it does what they need it to do in a way that is convenient, so what is wrong with that? They have other options, but they choose iPhone for a reason, and it's very patronising to say that you're right and they are wrong. That so many people on here fail to realise this simple fact, is testament to why none of you should be running a tech company selling to consumers.

I seriously doubt that anybody considers the moral arguments for or against buying a phone (FYI Foxconn make devices for most of the tech industry also, so thi is a hard area to navigate, and the rare mineral used to make all phones vibrate causes vast hardship for many in teh areas in which it is mined) and what technical limitations are there on a 4S, pray tell? Most developers will be developing for it on a locked standard platform, so the software will be better optimised. This is not supposition, this is fact if you look at both App stores as they currently stand.


RE: Cheaper products please
By Reclaimer77 on 10/17/2011 8:14:01 PM , Rating: 2
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OK brainbox - why do you think so many millions of people just decided to buy an iPhone 4s?


Are you for real? It's the first phone Apple has released in 15 months! After a massive hype campaign where they purposely leaked dubious information about an "iPhone5" to the media that they knew would really be an iPhone4 refresh. Of course it was going to sell in the millions. Like there was ever a doubt? DUH Tony! Only a crazy person would have this little common sense...


RE: Cheaper products please
By Commodus on 10/17/2011 1:50:52 PM , Rating: 2
Want to avoid that "third-world labor" (it's really second-world, but don't let facts get in the way)? Stop using technology.

That Windows PC you're using? Made at the same plants. That Android phone you have in your hand? Made in similar conditions. Also, Apple is not selling the iPhone for three times its actual value, because all those teardowns only factor in the raw parts and assembly cost, not research, development, marketing, or even shipping.

I'm not excusing the plant conditions (though Foxconn has lately more than doubled pay), but you've bought into a lie that's increasingly being repeated as fact: that somehow Apple, and only Apple, has its products made in those circumstances. Where do you think Dell, HP, HTC, and others go to make hardware when their gear is stamped "made in China?" A holiday resort?

No, Apple is singled out in the media for coverage both because it's one of the larger customers and, well, because it's Apple. Everyone who covers tech for a living knows that Dell had to use contractors with substandard working conditions to get that desktop down to $299; they don't realize that the same companies also have facilities to make considerably higher quality products.


RE: Cheaper products please
By TakinYourPoints on 10/18/2011 1:50:18 AM , Rating: 2
Unless you're Amish, singling out Apple's use of Chinese labor is like complaining about the sex trade while getting serviced in a Bangkok brothel.

Every component of my PC was made in China, and most of them come from a Foxconn plant. This is before we get to my game consoles, my plasma TV, etc etc.

I'll just leave this here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1266643/Mi...

http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/2010/04/13/lab...

Everyone does it. It isn't good, but singling out Apple is ridiculous, especially since a lot of the abuses (especially child labor) in Apple's plant were discovered by their own inspection and they made Foxconn address it. Wages have also gone up there since then: http://www.kitguru.net/channel/carl/apple-help-fox...

I totally makes sense that Apple would get this media attention since they are the largest tech company in the world and are therefore the largest target, same happened with Microsoft in the 90s, but it is stupid fodder for arguments given that every other electronics manufacturer does the same with comparably priced or even more expensive products.


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