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"They build a shiny sparkling thing that attracts users and then they control people's access to those things"

You may recall that top video game maker Valve Corp., makers of the Half-LifeCounterstrikePortal, and Left 4 Dead series, as well as the hit video-game distribution client Steam, recently aired some of its titles on Apple, Inc.'s (AAPL) Mac computers for the first time following some teasers.

But while Valve now is vending products for Apple's personal computer platform, it appears like there's little love between the firms.  Valve president and owner Gabe Newell blasted the Cupertino tech giant for its dictatorial approach to the mobile market.

He comments, "I suspect Apple will launch a living room product that redefines people's expectations really strongly and the notion of a separate console platform will disappear.  I'm worried that the things that traditionally have been the source of a lot of innovation are going - there's going to be an attempt to close those off so somebody will say 'I'm tired of competing with Google, I'm tired of competing with Facebook, I'll apply a console model and exclude the competitors I don't like from my world.'"

He continues, commenting that Apple has the "wrong philosophical approach" in its closed model.  

He adds, "I consider Apple to be very closed.  Let's say you have a book business and you are charging 5 to 7 percent gross margins. You can't exist in an Apple world because they want 30 percent and they don't care that you only have 7 percent to play with." 

To be fair, Valve might be being a bit hypocritical here as its Steam is also a closed platform, as the interviewer challenged.  Mr. Newell brushed this question aside, saying that while Steam isn't free, Valve does offer much free engine code and other tools to developers.

David Bluhm, president and chief executive of game company Z2Live, a mobile-focused gamemaker, jumped to Apple's defense after Mr. Newell's remarks, commenting, "I would argue Apple's system is very open but very proprietary ... it's open with their rules."

Source: TechNW: Best and worst of times for games, Valve vs. Apple

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RE: Glad someone sees this...
By TakinYourPoints on 10/13/2011 5:27:37 PM , Rating: -1
You may not need Steam to get your game out there, but as an independent developer you sure as hell need it if you're going to be profitable. There are outliers like Minecraft, but far more common are examples like Super Meat Boy. The developers were left hung out to dry by Microsoft as they did not get the promotion promised them when it was released on XBL, and in the end they sold very little. What saved them was being on Steam.

There is a lot to be said for having a dedicated storefront aimed at tens of millions of eyeballs. Steam is in a position that no other digital game storefront is, they are the iTunes of game distribution by default.

Valve doesn't sell hardware, but my PC might as well be a "Steam console". Anything I own that isn't on Battlenet (another closed platform built around DRM and restrictive policies) is on Steam.

RE: Glad someone sees this...
By Reclaimer77 on 10/13/2011 5:45:01 PM , Rating: 1
Shut up Tony. You don't get the point, as usual.

RE: Glad someone sees this...
By TakinYourPoints on 10/13/11, Rating: 0
RE: Glad someone sees this...
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/14/2011 8:47:26 AM , Rating: 2
You must be a miserable person, the name calling, that only serves to show how small minded you really are. Grow up. Seriously.

By TakinYourPoints on 10/14/2011 5:57:54 PM , Rating: 2
I'm one of the happiest people you'll ever meet. Trolling horrible posters like Leroy is hilarious

RE: Glad someone sees this...
By TakinYourPoints on 10/15/2011 6:46:00 PM , Rating: 1
Note that he started the name calling in every single case. He's one of the most short-fused and vicious posters here. If he wants to sling shit then he should be ready to get it back instead of crying like a little baby.

RE: Glad someone sees this...
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/15/2011 11:24:38 PM , Rating: 2
No, I don't believe he did. Calling him trailer trash, redneck and other various names, that's you. Like I said, grow up.

RE: Glad someone sees this...
By TakinYourPoints on 10/16/2011 6:01:21 AM , Rating: 2
Oh no, that was loooong after he started with me....

RE: Glad someone sees this...
By Reclaimer77 on 10/16/2011 12:04:28 PM , Rating: 2
Give me a break, you can't be THAT thin skinned. The worst I have ever called you was the occasional "idiot", as I do with almost everyone I argue with here. I've never gone into your background, or made stupid assumptions about you based on where you live, or anything like that.

Your attacks don't bother me, but they're really mean spirited and just kind of immature. It makes it seem like I'm debating with someone in middle school. I'm half expecting you to resort to "yo momma" jokes soon.

By TakinYourPoints on 10/19/2011 6:33:03 AM , Rating: 1
"Idiot" opens up the gate to mean spirited, sorry dude. Don't sling shit if you're not ready to get it back.

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