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New "Sun" handset appears to be branded "Sea Ray"

Months ago Nokia Oyj. (HEL:NOK1V) unveiled the "Sea Ray" in a private press conference that, of course, leaked onto the internet.  While the phone was unremarkable hardware-wise for a smartphone, the fact that it ran Microsoft Corp.'s (MSFT) Windows Phone 7 made it kind of a big deal.

Now more secret Nokia Windows Phone 7 handset info has leaked.  Leaked documents reveal a phone branded the "Nokia Sun".  Nokia doesn't usually brand its products with real world names, so clearly this is a special event.

The Sun features a(n):
  • 1.4GHz single-core processor
  • 16GB flash storage
  • 8MP camera
  • 3.7" AMOLED screen
  • Micro SIM card
  • Polycarbonate unibody design
...according to the internal Orange France (EPA:FTE) internal document that leaked courtesy of MonWindowsPhone.

The Nokia Sun
The Nokia "Sea Ray"/"Sun" is almost to the market, but Nokia is about the last major manufacturer to launch a Windows Phone 7.5 "Mango" handset. [Source: MonWindowsPhone]

These specs mean that it's likely the branded version of Sea Ray.  The document indicates that it will be available in week 46 (S46) -- the week of November 7.  

Other reports have indicated more coming Nokia WP7 handsets including the "Nokia Lumia 800" and the "Nokia 703".  Hopefully these handsets pack a bit more of a punch as a small screen single core smartphone isn't exactly keeping pace with the little monsters Google, Inc.'s (GOOG) Android hardware partners are cooking up these days.

Hopefully Nokia also speeds up its pace of deployment.  Nokia still plans to transition its entire lineup to using Windows Phone 7, but the company is moving a languid pace, being just about the last company to deploy a Windows Phone 7.5 "Mango" handset.  That slow response is costing Nokia dearly as customers abandon its defunct Symbian platform and have no current option but to jump to rival handsets.

Sources: MonWindowsPhone, NeoWin

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won't cut it
By kleinma on 10/6/2011 4:54:52 PM , Rating: 2
While it may be a nice piece of hardware as far as Windows Phones go, the OS really needs a peice of hardware that is better than the competition, not just equal, or in some cases worse and outdated.

Android phones with insane resolutions and dual core CPUs are emerging all over the place, and every Windows phone that gets announced is lacking very badly in the hardware area.

And I really, really want a windows phone, why is why this pisses me off. Plus I have Verizon, so that makes my chances of ever getting a good Windows phone pretty damn slim.

RE: won't cut it
By Alexvrb on 10/6/2011 8:15:27 PM , Rating: 5
If the latest Android flavor requires a 1.2Ghz+ dual core just to be fast and responsive, but they can pull this off with Mango on a 1.4Ghz single core, what does it matter? If it is lightning fast and runs everything built for it beautifully, who cares? Hardware is only half the equation.

With that said, yes, I really wish Verizon would branch out a bit and offer more choices. It doesn't help that their salespeople are brainwashed to just push the latest Android phones, even when customers express interest in taking something else for a test drive. I don't even have a WP7 phone but I've been impressed with WP7, especially Mango. I don't get why people bash it when they don't even really give it a chance. I haven't bought one, but I can certainly recognize that MS has done a pretty good job so far with WP7.

RE: won't cut it
By TakinYourPoints on 10/6/2011 11:14:48 PM , Rating: 2
If the latest Android flavor requires a 1.2Ghz+ dual core just to be fast and responsive, but they can pull this off with Mango on a 1.4Ghz single core, what does it matter? If it is lightning fast and runs everything built for it beautifully, who cares? Hardware is only half the equation.

Nailed it. A substandard OS on fast hardware is still a substandard experience. Focus on practical real-life experience rather than what the spec sheet tells you. If the OS is holding things back then fast hardware is beside the point.

RE: won't cut it
By sprockkets on 10/7/2011 11:19:14 AM , Rating: 2
I have the old HTC magic, the second android phone ever made. It's a responsive, slick, fast as can be, on stock firmware from google/htc. In other words, its the HTC ION version, and that thing has a measly 192MB of ram.

It just goes to show you, you are right, but it isn't so much android, it's the crap they put on it. And they do not mandate that you have the right to remove it, so the user experience suffers.

RE: won't cut it
By Alexvrb on 10/7/2011 9:58:52 PM , Rating: 2
OK but some of the Android updates have vastly improved the OS in terms of bug fixes and features. So its like you're stuck. My dad's original Droid (due for an upgrade) had all sorts of issues, that were fixed over time by updates. Unfortunetely, they also slowed the phone down. So he doesn't want to roll back, but he isn't happy with the poor responsiveness compared to the stock software. Anyway, he'll be replacing it with something several times faster, not sure if it will be an Android device or not.

Regarding manufacturer- and carrier-installed software, WP7 is much better about that sort of thing. Hmm, maybe that's why Verizon and others push the Android devices so much? They can install whatever they want on the devices, and it isn't easy for the average user to remove.

RE: won't cut it
By inighthawki on 10/7/2011 9:28:30 AM , Rating: 2
If you tried a WP7, you would easily see that it is a smoother and faster experience than just about ANY android phone. You can boast about a dual core 1.5GHz chip all you want, but when the OS is sloppy and wastes a lot of that speed, the 1.4GHz single core chip will actually perform better.

And yeah, sure WP7 doesnt have 1280x720 resolution on screen, but what it has is plenty for what it does. I have never once picked up my phone and thought to myself "I wish this had a higher resolution" because I've never even noticed it as being too LOW resolution.

RE: won't cut it
By BailoutBenny on 10/7/2011 10:59:39 AM , Rating: 2
microsoft will be updating the spec sheet anyway to include 720p and higher resolutions instead of the standard 800x480

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