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RIM is the biggest loser, yet again, dropping on a unit sales and market share basis

It's that time per quarter again and Comscore has delivered its latest update for the state of U.S. mobile phone market.  The study looks at total market share, both on a per-platform and per-manufacturer basis, based on a survey of 30,000 U.S. adults.  Note total market share (this study) is different than recent adopter market share (which has been published elsewhere, e.g. in Nielsen Mobile's recent report).

When it comes to platforms, there are few surprises here.  Google Inc.'s (GOOG) Android continues to post impressive growth reaching 43.7 percent of U.S. smartphones -- up from 38.1 percent in October.  And Apple, Inc. (AAPL) continues to outpace the general market growth too, albeit growing slower than Google.  Its iPhone hit 27.3 percent market share, up from 26.6 percent in May.

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[Source: ComScore]

The biggest loser in smartphone crowd -- continuing its trail of losses -- is Waterloo, Ontario-based Research in Motion, Ltd. (TSE:RIM), which dropped from 24.7 percent to 19.7 percent (notably, also a drop on a unit (!) basis).  The defunct Symbian platform from Finland's Nokia Oyj. (HEL:NOK1V) also posted a drop -- a relatively predictable result as the company looks to phase in Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) Windows Phone 7 OS across its lineup.

Speaking of Microsoft, the Redmond, Washington operating systems giant managed to hang on to most of its market share dropping only from 5.8 percent to 5.7 percent, despite laggard sales of its flagship Windows Phone 7 platform.

This indicates that Microsoft actually grew its deployment in units, as overall Comscore says smartphones jumped to 84.5 million units in the wild in the U.S. -- up 10 percent from a quarter before.

When it comes to overall mobile deployment on a per-manufacturer basis, Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (SEO:005930) continues to reign supreme, growing from 24.8 percent in May to 25.3 percent in August of smartphone and non-smartphone sales.  The rest of the rankings looking familiar -- LG Electronics (SEO:066570) in second, Google's recently acquired Motorola unit in third, Apple in fourth, and RIM in fifth.  Those rankings are identical to previous ones published by ComScore in August.

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[Source: ComScore]

Looking ahead Microsoft just deployed Windows Phone 7.5 "Mango"; Google is about to unleash Android 3.5 "Ice Cream Sandwich"; Apple is about to drop iOS 5 and the iPhone 4S; and RIM is slowly going to phase QNX across its smart phone lineup.

Source: ComScore



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RE: Not surprising...
By retrospooty on 10/13/2011 3:28:26 PM , Rating: 2
What needs clarification? It seems pretty simple to me.

The bet: By October next year, there won’t be any way to hide behind creative data reporting and "pick and choose" facts. RIM’s numbers will be down all over, sales, marketshare, everything everywhere and it will be undeniable.

Come on, stand behind what you say or just shut up.


RE: Not surprising...
By Pirks on 10/13/2011 3:33:27 PM , Rating: 2
I need clarification about this: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=22938...

I gave you two trends that contradict your predictions and you never answered the question: why do you think that these trends won't matter?


RE: Not surprising...
By retrospooty on 10/13/2011 3:35:11 PM , Rating: 2
This is pointless, we have both said our piece again and again and disagree. I think RIM is headed downhill fast, and you think they are OK. There is nothing left to do but see what happens, so let’s do that bet, or are you afraid? It’s not for any money, just for "I told you so" rights.
The bet: By October next year, there won’t be any way to hide behind creative data reporting and "pick and choose" facts. RIM’s numbers will be down all over, sales, marketshare, everything everywhere and it will be undeniable.

Come on, stand behind what you say or just shut up.


RE: Not surprising...
By Pirks on 10/13/2011 3:53:39 PM , Rating: 2
I don't bet on my beliefs, I bet on facts only, and facts depend on your answers which you still hide. I mean answers to questions here: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=22938...


RE: Not surprising...
By retrospooty on 10/13/2011 3:57:13 PM , Rating: 2
What answers? I we are both looking at the same data available on the internet in the same links we both looked at. There is nothing for me to hide, I just see the available data and I say RIM is on the precipice of a steep fall. There is nothing left to say or do.

Obviously you are afraid to take the bet, because you know you are wrong and RIM is in trouble eh Pirks? If not, take the bet.


RE: Not surprising...
By Pirks on 10/13/2011 4:04:51 PM , Rating: 2
Obviously you are afraid to answer my questions at http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=22938... because you know you are wrong about your grim predictions and RIM can actually grow its market share eh retro? If not, answer my questions.


RE: Not surprising...
By retrospooty on 10/13/2011 4:08:06 PM , Rating: 2
There is no answer but to see what happens with RIM. Come on, stand behind what you say or just shut up.


RE: Not surprising...
By retrospooty on 10/13/2011 4:14:54 PM , Rating: 2
OK, I agree lets keep it here in this one thread... http://www.dailytech.com/Jaguar+Gets+Support+for+R...


RE: Not surprising...
By Pirks on 10/13/2011 4:16:53 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
stand behind what you say
Are you afraid to answer my questions at http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=22938... because you can't stand behind what you say?


RE: Not surprising...
By retrospooty on 10/13/2011 4:19:12 PM , Rating: 2
Let's not keep this 3 thread thing, its giving me a headache. I answered it in the Jaguar thread. Lets keep it there sice its one conversation http://www.dailytech.com/Jaguar+Gets+Support+for+R...

If I am not answering the right question there, please re-ask it so I know what info you are looking for. I will be happy to answer.


RE: Not surprising...
By Pirks on 10/13/2011 4:23:19 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Not surprising...
By retrospooty on 10/13/2011 4:39:06 PM , Rating: 2
Answered in the Jaguar thread.


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