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Rendering of Chinese Tiangong-1   (Source: MSNBC)
Two years from now other modules will launch

China is looking to make itself into a technology, military, and space power over the coming years. China wanted to be part of the ISS, but NASA would not allow the country to participate. Rather than sulk in the corner, the Chinese have set about building an ISS rival and the first section of that rival space station has now been launched into orbit.

The first section of the Chinese space station, called Tiangong-1, was launched into orbit successfully. The Tiangong-1 module lifted off aboard a Long March 2FT1 rocket from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center. MSNBC reports that the module is about the size of a boxcar and is in orbit 217 miles above the Earth.
The Chinese say that the module will be used to survey Chinese farmland using special cameras and will conduct an experiment that involves growing crystals in space.

After the launch of this first module, China plans to launch an unmanned Shenzhou 8 spacecraft to practice remote controlled docking procedures with the orbiting module. The Tiangong-1 name means "Heavenly Place-1" and it will stay in space alone for two years. After the 2-year window, China will send two more modules up for more tests and then the actual space station will be launched in three sections in 2020 to 2022.

"This is a significant test. We've never done such a thing before," Lu Jinrong, the launch center's chief engineer, was quoted as saying by the official Xinhua News Agency.

The launch of the module was delayed for a year due to technical issues with the launch rockets. The Long March 2C rocket failed to reach orbit kicking off an investigation into the cause of the failure.

As the Chinese gear up to launch their space station, NASA is looking to deorbit the ISS after 2020.

Source: MSNBC



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RE: Hey U.S.
By Sazabi19 on 9/30/2011 1:41:00 PM , Rating: 2
I usually agree with you Clown but not exactly on this. I would love to change things but America on a whole has become lazy. I use to have tromendous pride and was a huge patriot, but I am starting to lose that now, what have we got left to be proud of? I am 22, not a scholar by any means nor do I have the wisdom that our older crowd has, but I like to think I am a little different from the rest of my peers. People that want change all look like a bunch of radical crazies, or are at least spun to look like it by the majority of the media. It will take time for the average American to actually get fed up with this and start to want to do anything about it, right now though they are all complacent.


RE: Hey U.S.
By cjohnson2136 on 9/30/2011 1:55:14 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with you I too am 22 and feel the same. I like the old ways of working hard and earning what you deserve.


RE: Hey U.S.
By bupkus on 9/30/2011 3:13:18 PM , Rating: 5
I'm 62 and in agreement as well.
We've lost the ideal of a work ethic and have come to embrace inheritance as the best way to get rich.
What used to be an inheritance tax has become the death tax and with it the Paris Hiltons and other trust babies need never work again. Even worse, their lack of respect for work molds their treatment of working Americans in their holdings.

Even corporations can fail at producing new products as long as they can tax those that do produce using their warehouse of patents based on fundamentals.

These lazy princes and princesses of the realm appear in the media adored by the youth who dream to be rappers, singers and instant stars on American Idol.

We export pop culture because that is about all we produce.


RE: Hey U.S.
By cjohnson2136 on 9/30/2011 3:18:03 PM , Rating: 1
+6


RE: Hey U.S.
By Samus on 10/3/2011 2:07:00 AM , Rating: 1
I'm 29 and while I agree the 'hard working class' is dying off, I disagree that its the younger generations fault for the way they are.

The hard working class generation focused so much on hard work and making money that they did infact forego family values, which is why the 60's were such a turbulant time.

The baby boomer generation then rode on the financial stability, success and infrastructure of the previous 'hard working class' and did little to improve anything for future generations.

Thus, Generation X and Y are left double-timing it for what the boomers didn't do. The problem is, Generation X is spending so much time trying to fix it that Generation Y isn't getting the proper attention the 'hard working class' generation didn't give the boomers, which caused things to screw up in the first palce.

It's all about the parents. Education, family and success follow. That hard working class generation, anybody still alive above 70, were all awful parents, and anybody between 40-65 are terrible, selfish people.


RE: Hey U.S.
By JediJeb on 10/3/2011 4:24:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It's all about the parents. Education, family and success follow. That hard working class generation, anybody still alive above 70, were all awful parents, and anybody between 40-65 are terrible, selfish people.


I can't agree with this myself. My parents are 67-66 and they raised me to believe in hard work as the way to get ahead just as it was for them. My parents would give even strangers the cloths off their backs if they needed it and have often allowed people to live in the small tenant house on their farm rent free, the last time when a family lost their house in a fire. Most of the people their age I grew up around are exactly the same. Of course we are from a rural area so maybe the bad parents are just the ones that come from the city, I don't know. I just know that I have not encountered the above situation.

For me it has been the newest generation to start into the workforce here in the last few years that seem to have no work ethic at all. They all want to start with a top salary and think that even a cushy job sitting at a computer is too difficult if you don't allow them to spend over half the day surfing the internet. Plus most of the 20-somethings working for us now, I have to yell at them to get their attention, and then they pull the ear buds out and look at me and say "Huh?" I don't understand why they need to listen to music 24-7.


RE: Hey U.S.
By Aloonatic on 9/30/2011 5:09:01 PM , Rating: 4
And which generation was in charge when the slide happened?

I agree that things might be getting worse, but the younger generation are a symptom of the problems with society, not the cause. The cause is/are the people in the generation(s) that have been making the decisions that got us to where we are today. The generations who have made fast buck selling out to the far east and thinking that the TV can raise their kids for them while they live a life as perpetual teenagers.

Blaming kids for how they behave, their work ethic, their morals is not really useful.

However, it is the easy and lazy thing to do, and might make you feel better in the short term. Where did these kids learn to be the way they are again?


RE: Hey U.S.
By Salisme on 9/30/2011 6:01:40 PM , Rating: 4
Don't understand why you are getting voted down. I'm a father of three, and thankfully my kids have been wonderful. What I don't understand is why I see kids running wild at restaurants, stores or just generally out in public getting in trouble and the parents just sit there with a "meh, don't care" look on their face.

I remember the times when I heard the phrase "wait until your father gets home" and I was truly scared because I got my but whipped for acting up in school, and I never would do it again. Now, parents blame teachers when kids act up in school and coddle the kids with more Xbox games instead of instilling discipline.

Parents need to step up and be parents. And let me be the persona non-grata here and say, if your kids act up, spank the little bastard already will you!


RE: Hey U.S.
By DoctorBeer on 10/1/2011 9:57:40 AM , Rating: 2
RE: Hey U.S.
By vittek4 on 10/3/2011 8:13:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUmJDVRDRTQ


That's IT?????? What the hell is the freaking clip about?????? Tell us, oh wise one!!


RE: Hey U.S.
By vittek4 on 10/3/2011 8:02:21 PM , Rating: 2
China finally got a spacecraft up the wtf why did it take so freaking long!!!!!!!


RE: Hey U.S.
By rlandess on 10/1/2011 9:46:56 AM , Rating: 2
The generational free fall probably starts with the generation that can remember the great depression. 100 years ago an awful lot of people worked hard everyday, not because of work ethic, but to avoid starving. The depression sharpened that situation. Everyone in the family worked hard for one another, not for their own gain. I'd guess after WW2 we were experiencing a boom in the economy and parents, who remembered the hardship they suffered as a child, were more inclined to coddle their kids a little. All the while parents time with their children is being lessened because of longer hours at work(away from home). The model of the family also changes because just one person has to work to put food on the table. The father has the sole burden of labor so the children are at that point free to become little hooligans in their parents absence. Society catches the first generation because people as a whole have conservative social values that help mold children - they get what they need from school, neighbors, church, etc. But when we get to my generation (28) everyone's out for themselves, social values have eroded, no one knows how to raise a decent kid and very few people add to society anymore. The vast majority probably net zero gain for society and those who work hard and do well, just pay for people who leach off the system.

Blame everyone or nobody.

It could also be said we've been coasting since we learned to farm, I doubt we've been doing much evolving (positively) since.


RE: Hey U.S.
By Aloonatic on 10/1/2011 11:53:16 AM , Rating: 2
There are all kinds of reasons for "decline". You can add mass, unavoidable psychological battery, also known as commercial advertising, to the list. Influencing people and making them think that they are worthless unless they can afford product x, and telling everyone how great people are who can afford product Y. If you can't afford products X and Y, then why bother trying?

Also, the unforeseen affects of feminism have pretty much destroyed the family unit now that everyone is out at work, expectations have raised so the money is still just as tight as when 1 parent worked, but no one is left to look after the kids. So they have been raised by the TV, and exposed to the affects of advertising from as soon as they could focus on a display and understand the odd word...

Also, lets be honest, most generations think that the next generation are lazy, feckless wasters who don't know how lucky they are etc.


RE: Hey U.S.
By derricker on 10/1/2011 10:46:18 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Also, the unforeseen affects of feminism have pretty much destroyed the family unit now that everyone is out at work, expectations have raised so the money is still just as tight as when 1 parent worked, but no one is left to look after the kids. So they have been raised by the TV, and exposed to the affects of advertising from as soon as they could focus on a display and understand the odd word...


Quoted for the truth, also to the TV working as a surrogate parent, add whatever bad influence the kids happen to stumble upon, strangers, teachers, other f****d up kids, which kids automatically look upon to replace their lost parental figures.


RE: Hey U.S.
By ClownPuncher on 9/30/2011 4:14:37 PM , Rating: 2
You can still do that. Why are you kids giving up so easily? Work hard, lead by example. Turn off your TV and make something. How can you possibly think the "USA is screwed, it's too late" attitude isn't just as bad as the lazy entitled people?

If this generation's revolution = giving up, you've shown your mettle already. You played your hand too soon.


RE: Hey U.S.
By cjohnson2136 on 9/30/2011 4:18:31 PM , Rating: 2
I have not given up entirely but I feel like my generation doesn't care no matter how hard any tries it just seems like they couldn't give a rat's a$$. I will also try but one man can only do so much unless others will at least put an effort to stepping forward when given the chance.


RE: Hey U.S.
By wordsworm on 9/30/2011 5:54:35 PM , Rating: 3
Hard to blame them. Look at how badly their parents and grandparents screwed up the country. In Canada, for instance, throughout the late 70s up until the end of the Mulroney era, the nation kept on borrowing from the future until the next generation of workers are seeing a huge portion of their taxes going to pay for loans taken out by the ruling generation before it. We had hope while the Liberals under Chretien were in power. We paid down debt, our economy was doing well, but now that we're in another Conservative era, we're back to the crapper.

Other things to keep in mind: back in the 80s when interest rates were so high, a man could easily put aside enough money to buy a house outright. No one could afford to pay the interest on an expensive house. Today, with low interest rates, it's made the value of homes artificially high.

Let's face it, the world that this generation is inheriting has been really mucked up by their grandparents and it's being further mucked up by their parents.


RE: Hey U.S.
By Aloonatic on 10/1/2011 6:19:51 AM , Rating: 2
I agree with you, and wordsworm below.

One thing to mention though, is that there are a lot of kids who are working really really hard, and have not given up. They know that they are not going to inherit a golden future as many of our post war forebears did. They are not going to be growing up in an all powerful west who had almost complete dominance over the worlds resources and competed only within their own boarders.

Now they have to compete globally, and many have stepped up. Of course, we don't hear about those kids too much. We hear about the lazy kids as news broadcasting = bad news/negativity broadcasting.

However, with the weight of a massive legacy of debt, highly competitive jobs market, little chance of buying a home unless they are in a very well paid job, ditto for saving for any kind of retirement (let alone early retirement) and everything else, is it any wonder that many kids have given up?

They days when you could be guaranteed a good life because you lived in the west are gone.

Example. When I was a student (late 90s) I worked in a factory along side a a friend's father. We were doing exactly the same job on a production line, not skilled at all. He was being paid £40,000+ a year, had private health insurance, a great pension plan, lots of holiday entitlement (above statutory minimums) and retired at 55 to live in his nice detached home, with large gardens, big car, 2 kids and a wife who never worked a day in her life. I was paid £6 ph and new people being taken on full time were not being paid much more for doing exactly the same thing.

To live that sort of life now. To buy the house, to have the holidays, pension, healthcare, have a wife (or husband) who stays at home and takes care of your kids so that you can actually spend quality time with them at the end of the day, without both of you being at work and then having t do house-hold tasks, shopping, DIY at the end of the day, and retire early... You'd probably need to have a very good (and now expensive) degree and then get a very good job too, the likes of which there are not many of.

If the older generation take take take and keep screwing over the next generation, what did they think would happen?


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