backtop


Print 78 comment(s) - last by NellyFromMA.. on Oct 3 at 4:52 PM


Google is growing the fastest in the smart phone market, while RIM and Microsoft continue to bleed market share.  (Source: Nielsen)

  (Source: BGR)
Apple holds steady as it waits for launch of new iPhone

In a survey of "recent acquirers" of smartphones, market research firm Nielsen Mobile finds that Google, Inc. (GOOG) continues to eat everyone's lunch -- particularly Waterloo, Ontario-based Research In Motion, Ltd. (TSE:RIM) and Redmond, Washington-based Microsoft Corp. (MSFT).

In July, Nielsen placed the market share of Google's Android OS in the U.S. at 38 percent.  Three months later, for the period ending in August, Nielsen finds that Android has risen to 43 percent of all active U.S. smart phones, a gain of five points.  More importantly, among those who bought their phones in June, July, or August, Google had a formidable 56 percent market share.

Don Kellogg, Nielsen Director of Telecom Research & Insights, says this recent adopter figure is particularly important.  He 
comments [press release], "The preferences of these so-called "recent acquirers" are important as they are often a leading indicator of where the market is going."

If correct, the market appears to be going towards Google and away from RIM and Microsoft.  Overall RIM is clinging to an 18 percent market share while others (mostly Microsoft) hold a remaining 11 percent.  However, in the last three months only 9 percent of buyers chose BlackBerry handsets (RIM) and only 6 percent chose "other" (a Windows Phone) handset.

Apple, Inc. (
AAPL) held steady -- it had a 28 percent market share at present, and in the last three months precisely 28 percent of buyers, according to Nielsen, bought iPhones.  In other words Microsoft and RIM are either stagnate or slightly shrinking in unit sales, Apple is growing unit sales at the same rate as the overall growth of the smart phone market, while Google is growing faster than the overall market.

Nielsen cautions that Apple's apparent stagnation is likely more a side effect of lacking new hardware.  Writes Mr. Kellogg, "Every time Apple launches a new iPhone or makes it available on a new wireless carrier, there is an increase in their sales."

Apple is expected to 
drop its fifth generation iPhone model at a special event next Tuesday.

The study also reveals smart phone uptake 
continuing to rise.  Overall at the end of August, only 43 percent of U.S. phone customers had a smartphone.  In the last three months, though, smartphone purchases have risen to 56 percent of total purchases, as sales of feature phones continue to shrink.



Comments     Threshold


This article is over a month old, voting and posting comments is disabled

RE: old trends, future trends
By retrospooty on 9/28/2011 10:17:08 AM , Rating: 2
I just looked up some quick specs on battery life (talk time).

Droid Bionic - 10.8 hours
Droid 3 - 9.16 hours
BB 9850 new OS7 phone - 6.8 hours
BB9860 new OS7 phone - 6.2 hours

I think Boneflute is smoking the same crap that RIM's management is (the very management that is running them into the ground BTW)


RE: old trends, future trends
By boneflute on 9/28/2011 11:34:19 AM , Rating: 2
yeah, right, 10.8 hours for which droid?
did also you try to browse :-)? write emails?
just pick up the first review that comes out in search, they all say that the it won't last through the day unless you have a spare battery

for BB take this one for example:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/blackberry-bold...

"[Running] our intensive battery drain test the phone delivered an equally impressive 8.5 hours. (For reference, the QWERTY HTC Status managed just 3.5 hours on the same test.)"

This is why the RIM Torch only needs a 1,270 mAh battery, while for instance HTC Sensation 4G has a 1520 mAh battery, your Bionic has 1735 mAh and the laughable Droid needs 2600 mAh.
Of course, if one is to measure only talk time the RIM advantage diminishes, but it's still there.

Browser speed, from the same engadget review:
SunSpider JavaScript benchmark - BB Bold clocked in a very good 2,648ms
hTC's dual-core G2x finished in 4,149.5ms while the Sensation 4G took a longer 6256.3ms.

also, it jives with this:
http://www.gsmarena.com/blackberry_os_7_browser_be...

You can look up iPhone, it's over 10,000 ms, depends on the tester. Here the Nexus is found twice as fast as the iPhone4
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/07/androi...

So basically the benchmarks are 2,648ms -- 4,149.5ms -- 10,902 for Bold--fastestAndroid--iPhone4.
Not bad, with a smaller battery and half of hTC's CPU.

Ok, this is it, the info is there for he who wants to know.

My 2c:
Don't believe what the WS-affiliated media spreads (mainly by copy-paste), just go and test one for yourself.

Just because Apple doesn't like standards (they will do anything in their power to stop HTML5) and Google is trying to "pull a Microsoft" in the mobile space that doesn't mean that RIM is making bad devices.


RE: old trends, future trends
By retrospooty on 9/28/2011 12:42:39 PM , Rating: 2
Hi Pirks's new online ID, nice to meet you.

Anyhow, back to reality. My point is that RIM's single core 1.2 ghz CPU isnt faster than most Droid's dual core 1 and 1.2 ghz CPU's and neither is the browsing. Most reviews show RIM's OS 7 devices as equal or slower, not better, and not better battery life.

In the absolute best light possible, RIM phones are catching up, but its not going to be enough.


RE: old trends, future trends
By boneflute on 9/28/2011 12:59:11 PM , Rating: 2
hya, retrospooty,

"Most reviews show" ... care for a reference?
I gave you three showing the opposite (namely that BB OS7 is faster than the fastest Android, while the iOS is in the dust)

My point exactly was that OS7 browses faster on a slower processor. This for the ones that were hallucinating things like "RIM can't write software".

and who tf is Pirks?
Or do you think there is only one person on the planet that can say anything remotely positive on BB?


RE: old trends, future trends
By retrospooty on 9/28/2011 1:12:01 PM , Rating: 2
I think there are 2 brand new ID's here that just started posting and they sound an aweful lot like Pirks =)

quick links....

http://www.bgr.com/2011/09/07/blackberry-torch-985...
"Unfortunately, because BlackBerry OS 7 is so far behind the pack, the Torch 9850 simply can’t compete."

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/igeneration/open-letter-...
"Open letter to RIM: New BlackBerrys offer little excitement"

http://www.pcworld.com/article/238123/blackberry_7...
"BlackBerry 7 OS adds much-needed performance boosts and cool features such as NFC and augmented reality, but RIM is mostly playing catch-up with this release."

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393083,00.as...
"While BlackBerry 7 is RIM's best smartphone effort yet, it pales in comparison to what today's Android and iOS devices offer; QNX can't come soon enough."


RE: old trends, future trends
By boneflute on 9/28/2011 1:36:12 PM , Rating: 2
Man, I posted numbers, not WS-filler.

While I am not one to say that all "hand-waving reviewing" is to be sourced to WS stock manipulation I still root for numbers and independent thought.

I recommend everybody to go out and try the devices themselves, while the typical fanboi is asking you to take his word for it, the iphone (or whatever) is better... etc.


RE: old trends, future trends
By retrospooty on 9/28/2011 1:50:59 PM , Rating: 2
I have tried OS7 in a wireless store. It OK, I just dont see what it brings to the game - its sort of catching up. I actually did check out QNX, not on a device, but reading up on it. It does look promising, I would like to try it out and hope it does well. More competition is always good.

Not sure if it's true but I read somewhere that it wont work properly with BES and it will force RIM to support EAS like all other phones do and have for years, so if that is true its a good thing for RIM, but something tells me they will muck it up. We will have to wait and see.


RE: old trends, future trends
By Pirks on 9/28/2011 2:28:51 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I would like to try it out and hope it does well
Wah! You haven't tried Playbook yet! Hehe, no wonder you're trolling anti-RIM BS so much. Lotsa people who never tried Playbook do ;)


RE: old trends, future trends
By retrospooty on 9/28/2011 6:43:07 PM , Rating: 2
Dood, I am not anti-RIM, I just totally disagree with you on the direction they are headed. I haven't seen any positivity coming from them, just denial, They are lagging bad. I really dont want them to fail, I just see them failing. If they do not then it is better for all of us. Mmore phone options keeps things in check. It gives carriers more options for us, and less leverage to push us. It also makes the other manufacturers keep on thier toes with products and prices. Competition is good. If I have any distaste for RIM it is because they arent providing much competition and they should be

Now, if QNX changes that I am more than happy. I hope it does. Another good OS just gives us all more options nad forces the rest to raise thier games get it?

Serious question. I read somewhere that QNX wont work with RIM's current BES/push email service and that they will have to go EAS like everyone else when QNX comes to thier phones. Any truth to that?


RE: old trends, future trends
By Pirks on 9/29/2011 11:02:53 AM , Rating: 2
Can't say yes or no, I heard these rumors too but I doubt RIM will take such a risk.

On the other hand they took a big risk releasing Playbook too fast, with some functionality missing.

So, judging by their Playbook debut I think they may take another risk again and make their QNX phone kinda consumer-only with some enterprise stuff like everyone else has, maybe they will provide large 4.1" screen, full touch, no keyboard, and a sweet mini-Playbook like AKA WebOS like GUI... I heard these rumors too.

If you are right about enterprise dropping BES then it's likely their QNX phone will drop BES.

But the ever growing number or RIM subscribers proves you wrong, i.e. it proves enterprise is not yet dropping BES as you insist.

In this case they are likely to withhold QNX phone release until they make BES stuff working.

Alternatively they could just release QNX phone as fast as possible and add features like BES in updates later. I think this is the most likely scenario because this is what Apple and MS did. I'm pretty sure RIM will follow in their steps here.


RE: old trends, future trends
By Omega215D on 9/29/2011 6:13:39 AM , Rating: 2
I'll have to agree with you because I did a 14 day trial on another line I have. I got the Bold 9930 then the Torch 9850. Both nice devices but they fall pretty short in performance compared to the other mobile OSes.

Blackberry phones do have great looking screens, even when the resolution is below or at industry standards. I had a lot of hope for either device but was found to be waiting longer for web pages to load or finish loading or various call performance issues. Not to mention those devices didn't have many apps the I would find useful available to them like they are on my Android phone.

At this point I'll wait to see what's in store for WP7 after Mango. That looks like a promising platform and being that it's Microsoft it should integrate pretty well with existing MS platforms.

RIM's saving grace is that they make camera-less versions of their phones for work areas that ban mobile phones with cameras in them.


RE: old trends, future trends
By Pirks on 9/28/2011 1:36:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393083,00.as...
"Uses less data than other OSes"

Well that explains again why BES costs money and your free non-RIM email crap can't bother IT pros who know the tech well enough :P

But don't stop posting your "free non-RIM email is better because it's FREE" bullsh!t, it's not that some facts about BB OS data consumption can stop your clueless trolling, right retro? ;)


RE: old trends, future trends
By retrospooty on 9/28/2011 1:44:23 PM , Rating: 2
I posted this in hte other thread, but you commeted here so here you go...

Many years ago RIM's email solution was better because it did a true push email. Back then, years ago, Exchange offered it, but mobile OS's didnt really recieve "push" email they simulated it with timed "pulls" thus the slightly worse battery performance. ALL modern smartphone OS's now pull. Anyhow the slight difference in battery drain on email is really irrelevant, because it wasn't a large issue before and doesn't exist at all anymore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_e-mail


RE: old trends, future trends
By Pirks on 9/28/2011 2:31:57 PM , Rating: 2
Debunked in the other thread tho :P


RE: old trends, future trends
By retrospooty on 9/28/2011 2:39:38 PM , Rating: 2
No, dingy, it wasnt. You posted a quote which specifically said it wasn't supported in Windows mobile5 which is like 2007. LOL.

Wow, you used to at least try, now you just post garbage, I dont think you even read what you pasted LOL


RE: old trends, future trends
By Pirks on 9/28/2011 2:52:18 PM , Rating: 2
Debunked there again :)))


RE: old trends, future trends
By retrospooty on 9/28/2011 2:53:50 PM , Rating: 2
LOL, you know zero about mobile mail. You cant debunk that which you dont understand.

Enjoy your RIM-ride into the pit of obsolescence.


RE: old trends, future trends
By Pirks on 9/28/2011 3:53:01 PM , Rating: 2
Pwned ya again, now Linux style. You like being pwned Linux style? ;)


RE: old trends, future trends
By retrospooty on 9/28/2011 3:56:01 PM , Rating: 2
Love it. You must be right. Because Linux vs. Windows is so relevant. RIM must be doing well. Good then, its settled.


RE: old trends, future trends
By Pirks on 9/28/2011 4:41:44 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Linux vs. Windows is so relevant
It is, given that you love FREE stuff so much


"I mean, if you wanna break down someone's door, why don't you start with AT&T, for God sakes? They make your amazing phone unusable as a phone!" -- Jon Stewart on Apple and the iPhone

Did You Partake in "Black Friday/Thursday"?
Did You Partake in "Black Friday/Thursday"? 





0 Comments












botimage
Copyright 2014 DailyTech LLC. - RSS Feed | Advertise | About Us | Ethics | FAQ | Terms, Conditions & Privacy Information | Kristopher Kubicki