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  (Source: rdigeorgia.com)
The Missouri state law preventing teachers from communication exclusively with students on internet sites has been repealed

The Missouri State Teachers Association filed a lawsuit against the state, state governor and attorney general last month to battle a new law that would forbid teachers from having "exclusive access" with students on Internet sites.

The law, which was to take effect on August 28 and was called the Amy Hestir Student Protection Act (after a Missouri student who was molested decades ago), aimed to prevent inappropriate behavior 
between teachers and students by restricting out-of-school contact. Teachers would not be allowed to interact with students on the internet "exclusively," meaning through private messages. The contact would have to be publicly seen by parents and administrators. 

But teachers fought back, saying that students needed that out-of-school contact for help with homework or confidentiality about subjects like bullying. 

Now, the Missouri State Teachers Association has won the battle. The law has been repealed through the Missouri Stat Senate, according to ZDNet.

Senator Jane Cunningham (R-Chesterfield), who sponsored the Amy Hestir Student Protection Act, filed Senate Bill 1 this month, and the Senate now passed SB1 33-0. It will now be taken to the House, be assigned to a committee, and if approved, will become eligible to be debated on the House floor. 

SB1 requires each Missouri school district to have a written policy regarding employee-student communication by March 1, 2012. 

The Missouri State Teachers Association also asked the Circuit Court of Cole County to review the constitutionality of the law's social media section last month. Teachers worried that this new law was broad enough to ban them from having a Facebook, or from "friending" their own children who are Missouri students. They argued that this infringed on First Amendment rights. 

Cole County Circuit Judge Jon Beetem granted the group a preliminary injunction that lasts for 180 days and will expire February 20, 2012. 

The Missouri State Teachers Association has not dropped its lawsuit despite this win.



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RE: This is ridiculous...
By MrBlastman on 9/16/2011 2:00:44 PM , Rating: 3
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No wonder you are for such a law lol.

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Don't move the goalposts on me.


Please quit putting words in my mouth that I don't say. Your whole argument has been made up on an assumption that I want a "Law" when I've been quite verbose of the opposite. Have you read anything I've written or are you content in arguing with yourself here?

Go read all my comments in this article too:

http://www.dailytech.com/Missouri+State+Teachers+A...

You'll see that I am clearly for similar things that you are except I don't want the FB/Email exchanges, want all the parental guidance and don't exactly want it to be a law, but instead a common-sense policy.

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I'd much prefer it be a school policy than have to be a law. I'd also prefer people to use common sense more than anything, but apparently they don't. Leave it up to the PTA to decide this with the individual school or district rather than getting the state involved would be preferrable in all cases.


THAT is what I said, along with "Common sense" in other posts. I never said it needs to be a LAW. You've done nothing but assume, but maybe I am also partially at fault here for not beating you over the head with a sledgehammer and pounding it in on where I stand. I thought I was pretty clear, but I guess not.

Also,

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I was the one pointing that out.


You weren't, or at least weren't clear in the least of it. That or my reading comprehension totally fails today. No, you said (And I really hate this cherry-picking crap):

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Umm... does Facebook have a feature where you can just think and the message is sent? Last I checked you had to go to a computer or phone, log in and do some typing.


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As the parent of children in MO, I am very happy to hear this. My wife and I keep our eyes on our kids and I suggest others do the same.


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The law is pointless. Give it up. If they are communicating in private, then a parent always has the option to get the password of the known Facebook/email/cell account and see what they are talking about should they be suspicious.


It sure looks to me that you, while wanting to be a caring parent (as all should be) you give your kids too much credit for being forthcoming on everything they know/do etc. The smart ones will figure out a way to hide things.

Oh, and:

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But should we meet in the same PTA meeting...there will be blood ;-)


Make sure you drink some sugary drinks before you come. That'll make it all the much sweeter to enjoy. ;) :P

Jokes aside, seriously, can't we just have a nice verbal debate here? I wish more people could. I'm not sure why it has to get so personal. :P


RE: This is ridiculous...
By The Raven on 9/16/2011 5:53:06 PM , Rating: 2
Please explain one thing... How does your subject of "This is ridiculous..." in reply to an article about this law being repealed not saying that you are disappointed that it didn't pass. I mean what exactly is ridiculous then? Your first post sounds like you are calling for a law since it seems you are disappointed that it didn't pass. Sorry to misunderstand but you would've been crystal clear if the subject was "Glad this stupid law didn't pass but..." and the body was exactly the same. (I almost agree with that. I don't agree with the absoluteness of that but we are splitting hairs in that case and I'll leave that up to you as a parent.)

And no I am not cherry picking. What points did I ignore? If you are waiting on a response to something let me know and I will address it. You on the other hand cherry picked this entire article because you haven't responded to my comments on your referenced link (not that I expect you to).

I'm sorry but I didn't see anything showing that you were happy about it's failure to pass, especially in your initial post.

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It sure looks to me that you, while wanting to be a caring parent (as all should be) you give your kids too much credit for being forthcoming on everything they know/do etc. The smart ones will figure out a way to hide things.
Yeah and again, I was the one that pointed out that they can use alternate accounts, semaphore, etc. without their parents finding out. So stop taking my words and putting them in your mouth.

The parents can figure out that the kids are hiding something...or they can't. But this law certainly wouldn't help them determine that. If anything this law would act as an ineffective fuzzy blanket making them feel safe so they have their guard down.

There is no point in a law (or even a school policy IMO) because if the parents can't figure out that there is something up with their own kid living in their own house, how is a law like this supposed to stop a grown teacher from inappropriately contacting a student?

And no I am not going to scour the internet to see what your thoughts are on the subject before I reply. Are you serious? I know that I agree with you on a great many things (from what I can recall), but I don't remember every post that I make and I didn't recall our comments on that link. And whether or not I do is irrelevant. You either agree with the law or you don't.


RE: This is ridiculous...
By The Raven on 9/16/2011 6:16:03 PM , Rating: 2
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Jokes aside, seriously, can't we just have a nice verbal debate here? I wish more people could. I'm not sure why it has to get so personal. :P

Dude, I wasn't actually threatening your life. I was using a metaphor to illustrate how much I would disagree with you on a school policy that mentions the words "social media" like this law does.


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