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Dr. Ivar Giaever  (Source: newmediajournal.us)
Dr. Ivar Giaever announced his resignation Tuesday, September 13

A well-known physicist has resigned from his position with the American Physical Society (APS) due to its recent policy stating that global warming is real.

Dr. Ivar Giaever, a 1973 Nobel Prize winner in physics and former professor with the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, announced his resignation from the APS on Tuesday, September 13, 2011.

The APS' official policy supports the theory that human actions have inexorably caused the warming of the Earth through heightened carbon dioxide emissions.

Giaever responded by refusing to pay his annual dues, and writing an email to Kate Kirby, executive officer of the physics society, saying that he disagreed with this policy.

The following is the email sent from Giaever to Kirby on September 13:

From: Ivar Giaever [ mailto:giaever@XXXX.com]

Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:42 PM
To: kirby@aps.org
Cc: Robert H. Austin; 'William Happer'; 'Larry Gould'; 'S. Fred Singer'; Roger Cohen
Subject: I resign from APS

Dear Ms. Kirby

Thank you for your letter inquiring about my membership. I did not renew it because I can not live with the statement below:

 

Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth's climate. Greenhouse gases include carbon dioxide as well as methane, nitrous oxide and other gases. They are emitted from fossil fuel combustion and a range of industrial and agricultural processes.

The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring.
If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth's physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now.

In the APS it is ok to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is incontrovertible? The claim (how can you measure the average temperature of the whole earth for a whole year?) is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degree Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this 'warming' period.

 

Best regards,

 

Ivar Giaever

 

Nobel Laureate 1973

 

PS. I included a copy to a few people in case they feel like using the information.


Ivar Giaever
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According to the Wall Street Journal, Giaever announced he was an avid global warming skeptic in 2008, saying that global warming was "becoming a religion."

"I am Norwegian, should I really worry about a little bit of warming?," said Giaever in 2008. "I am unfortunately becoming an old man. We have heard many similar warnings about the acid rain 30 years ago and the ozone hole 10 years ago or deforestation but the humanity is still around. The ozone hole width has peaked in 1993. Moreover, global warming has become a new religion. We frequently hear about the number of scientists who support it. But the number is not important: only whether they are correct is important. We don't really know what the actual effect on the global temperature is. There are better ways to spend the money."

Giaever, who earned his Nobel Prize for his experimental discoveries with tunneling phenomena in superconductors, joined more than 100 signers of a letter to U.S. President Barack Obama criticizing his position on climate change in 2009.



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RE: Unfortunately, he's wrong
By ZmaxDP on 9/15/2011 5:11:19 PM , Rating: 4
Uhhhh...

Read his stance. He is saying exactly what that quote stands for. He is against calling GW "incontrovertible". In other words, all those distinguished climate scientists are the ones that are wrong. To assert that something is "incontrovertible" is to assert that the alternate possibility is impossible. So, the climatologists are claiming that global warming being caused by natural factors is "impossible" since evidently it is "incontrovertible" that humans are causing it. This guy isn't saying anything is impossible. He's saying that both things are possible but not proven, and thus shouldn't be driving policy or investment to the degree that it is.


RE: Unfortunately, he's wrong
By name99 on 9/15/11, Rating: -1
RE: Unfortunately, he's wrong
By someguy123 on 9/15/2011 6:35:00 PM , Rating: 2
Why must people post comments without reading the article?

The person you're responding to is referring to comments made by Giaever in his resignation email.


RE: Unfortunately, he's wrong
By dgingerich on 9/15/11, Rating: 0
RE: Unfortunately, he's wrong
By dgingerich on 9/15/2011 6:38:32 PM , Rating: 5
To clarify:

The GW crowd says the data and their conclusions are "incontrovertible", and that they can't certainly be wrong. This is drawing a very arrogant conclusion, saying that their error can't exist.

This scientist is saying that their statement is monstrously arrogant and that there is always the possibility that they are wrong, and that their data needs to be proven more thoroughly. Their error is certainly possible to exist.

This fits quite well with that Arthur C Clark quote.


RE: Unfortunately, he's wrong
By someguy123 on 9/15/2011 6:39:23 PM , Rating: 2
I don't really understand how his quote applies in this context.

Nowhere does he imply that it's impossible, but that it's not proven possible, and that labeling it as proven without evidence is unscientific. Basically he's saying they aren't in a neutral position. Clarke's quote is directed and old people that claim "possible or impossible", not those demanding neutrality.


RE: Unfortunately, he's wrong
By Starcub on 9/16/2011 2:19:59 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Uhhhh... Read his stance. He is saying exactly what that quote stands for. He is against calling GW "incontrovertible".

Uhhhh.... Read the article. He's saying that the GW that IS OCCURRING isn't as big of problem as the other scientists think it is. And why should he be concerned about it, he's a wealthy norwegian, not a poor north african.


RE: Unfortunately, he's wrong
By Starcub on 9/16/2011 2:39:07 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry, I re-read the article and came to a different conclusion. He is claiming that the existence of GW is indeterminable, and even if it were, as the other scientists claim, its not big deal. Which IMHO is even worse -- he's issued a strong opinion and getting himself all out of kilter over scientific conclusions arrived at as a result of the practice of a science that he disqualifies not only himself, but scientists in general to understand.


RE: Unfortunately, he's wrong
By animekenji on 9/16/2011 9:38:29 AM , Rating: 2
Firstly, Norwegians have more to worry about from global warming because they have a lot of ice and snow that would melt off and flood the country.

Secondly, the poor North African would be substantially less poor if his country was allowed to develop and build factories that provide jobs and build up the economy of his country raising the standard of living for all.


RE: Unfortunately, he's wrong
By Starcub on 9/17/2011 7:57:41 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Firstly, Norwegians have more to worry about from global warming because they have a lot of ice and snow that would melt off and flood the country.

The benefits to a warmer climate, for them, would far outweigh the negatives.

quote:
Secondly, the poor North African would be substantially less poor if his country was allowed to develop and build factories that provide jobs and build up the economy of his country raising the standard of living for all.

Factories? So long the US irrationally remains in bed with China, most of them won't ever see electricity or running water.


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