IDF 2011: Intel Presenter Complains Cooling is an "Afterthought" for Apple
September 14, 2011 6:26 PM
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We attended Intel's cooling presentation this morning.
Intel's engineer complains that Apple is more concerned about making its products pretty than fixing their overheating problems.
What can Intel do to stop companies like Apple from selling overheating designs? "Nothing", presenter says.
In the quick
notes category, we wanted to share a humorous exchange we had with an Intel Corp. (
) engineer. Joshua Linden-Levy is a "Mechanical Pathfinding Engineer" at Intel and delivered a terrific presentation on cooling in
, the Intel Atom platform
In the presentation Mr. Linden-Levy discussed how the target temperature for laptops was 58 Celsius, according to industry standards. Given the high temperatures
by various editions of Apple, Inc.'s (
) MacBook Pros, we wanted to ask him how Intel plans to keep its partners (like Apple) from violating the proposed thermal guidelines on
and its other product lines (Apple is unlikely to use
, but typically uses other Intel's mainstream notebook and desktop processor lines in its models).
During the Q&A session Mr. Linden-Levy acknowledged hearing about Apple's laptop thermal issues. What can Intel do prevent partners from committing such thermal botch jobs? "Nothing," says Mr. Linden-Levy, "[the manufacturer will] just get a bad reputation among consumers."
As we discussed the issue further he added, "Well as you know, with Apple their chief priority is always form and looks -- everything else, including cooling design is an afterthought."
We found the presenter's informed, earnest unscripted dialogue about one of his company's largest partners refreshing.
thermal problem-plagued MacBook Pro models
sell for almost twice the price of comparable hardware models from
ASUSTEK Computer Inc. (
). Of course ASUSTEK's laptops lack the special aluminum unibody -- but when that unibody can get
as hot as 100 degrees Celsius
, it's hardly a selling point.
To be fair, less pricey models from
Sony Corp. (
) and Dell, Inc. (
have suffered from similar issues [
]. Unlike these companies, though, Apple often refuses to recall or fully patch its faulty products.
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RE: Of course not
9/15/2011 1:13:46 PM
Blame it on user and third party software..
That's probably because the user is watching too much flash videos on youtube. It's Adobe Flash that's causing the cpu overheat..
Nothing wrong with Macbook as long as you visit html5 websites..
RE: Of course not
9/15/2011 4:16:53 PM
So it's Flash causing all these over heating CakBooks right? Even though on PC laptops it's bizarrely fine and does not overheat. Ever. How could this possibly be??
If a laptop overheats using ANY software it's a design flaw. Not debatable. All other WELL designed laptops do not overheat no matter what you run. And theres FAR more demanding stuff than Flash out there.
Also Flash's Stage Video which has been around since Flash 10.2 uses LESS CPU usage than HTML5 video. It's the best in class video performance. Also try running Apples own HTML5 demo's on a Macbook Air or iPad. 100% CPU usage on iPad and a frame rate lower than 10 FPS. Battery is drained in no time and heats the thing up. Yet a slower clocked Android phone can run the same stuff in Flash and hit 60 FPS. HTML5 is worser than Flash at many things. But being an Apple user i dont expect you to actually be educated with
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