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We attended Intel's cooling presentation this morning.

Intel's engineer complains that Apple is more concerned about making its products pretty than fixing their overheating problems.
What can Intel do to stop companies like Apple from selling overheating designs? "Nothing", presenter says.

In the quick IDF 2011 notes category, we wanted to share a humorous exchange we had with an Intel Corp. (INTC) engineer.  Joshua Linden-Levy is a "Mechanical Pathfinding Engineer" at Intel and delivered a terrific presentation on cooling in Oak Trail, the Intel Atom platform that replaces Pine Trail.

In the presentation Mr. Linden-Levy discussed how the target temperature for laptops was 58 Celsius, according to industry standards.  Given the high temperatures long suffered by various editions of Apple, Inc.'s (AAPL) MacBook Pros, we wanted to ask him how Intel plans to keep its partners (like Apple) from violating the proposed thermal guidelines on Oak Trail and its other product lines (Apple is unlikely to use Oak Trail, but typically uses other Intel's mainstream notebook and desktop processor lines in its models).

During the Q&A session Mr. Linden-Levy acknowledged hearing about Apple's laptop thermal issues.  What can Intel do prevent partners from committing such thermal botch jobs?  "Nothing," says Mr. Linden-Levy, "[the manufacturer will] just get a bad reputation among consumers."

As we discussed the issue further he added, "Well as you know, with Apple their chief priority is always form and looks -- everything else, including cooling design is an afterthought."

We found the presenter's informed, earnest unscripted dialogue about one of his company's largest partners refreshing.

Currently the thermal problem-plagued MacBook Pro models sell for almost twice the price of comparable hardware models from ASUSTEK Computer Inc. (TPE:2357).  Of course ASUSTEK's laptops lack the special aluminum unibody -- but when that unibody can get as hot as 100 degrees Celsius, it's hardly a selling point.

To be fair, less pricey models from 
Sony Corp. (TYO:6758) and Dell, Inc. (DELLhave suffered from similar issues [1][2].  Unlike these companies, though, Apple often refuses to recall or fully patch its faulty products.


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RE: That explains it
By Jotatsud1 on 9/14/2011 10:02:41 PM , Rating: 3
It was a total suprise to Apple's engineers and the industry in general that i7 chips generate heat adn therefore you must design proper ventilation systems.

Need more rope?


RE: That explains it
By fcx56 on 9/14/2011 10:18:45 PM , Rating: 1
Quit being dramatic. The previous poster is clearly referencing Atom-class environments. i7 in a tablet? Please, that's what ARM is for.

I just wish Intel would have had the foresight to hold on to XScale, if only as a stopgap. Or even better they could have used it as an additional core in a modular architecture.


RE: That explains it
By TakinYourPoints on 9/14/11, Rating: -1
RE: That explains it
By erple2 on 9/15/2011 9:36:53 AM , Rating: 3
Look, buddy, that puzzle game with the apple logo shouldn't make your laptop spin up it's fans like that.


RE: That explains it
By TakinYourPoints on 9/15/11, Rating: -1
RE: That explains it
By TakinYourPoints on 9/15/2011 5:13:06 PM , Rating: 1
Hmm, downvoted because I say that the MBP temps are well within tolerance and that the noise from the fans is no more than Asus or Alienware gaming laptops that I've used, or downvoted because I've been playing the Diablo 3 beta since day 1?

Someone's jealous either way...


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