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Apple got Samsung's Galaxy Tab 10.1 and 7.7 kicked out of Germany.

Samsung is responding by filing a lawsuit claiming Apple patent infringements with various iPhone and iPad models
Samsung fires back at Apple on two fronts

It's getting hard to keep up with all of the lawsuits and countersuits [1][2][3][4][5][6] these days in the mobile industry. The company with the largest target appears to be Google thanks to patent infringements and market dominance with the Android operating system. Apple, however, has its own favorite whipping boy which just so happens to be Samsung.

Samsung is answering back with a lawsuit of its own France reports AFP. The South Korean company alleges that Apple is infringing on three mobile phone technology patents and that infringing products include the iPhone and the iPad. Specifically, the complaint fixates on the iPhone 3G/3GS/4 and both generations of the iPad. 

The three patents center on UMTS 3G technology that is found in all cellular-capable iPads and iPhones with the exception of original iPhone released in 2007. 

Apple already won a huge battle in Germany, as the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (and its smaller Galaxy Tab 7.7 sibling) have been kicked to the curb due infringements on Apple's "minimalist design". Presiding Judge Johanna Brueckner-Hofmann of the Dusseldorf, Germany asserted that, "The court is of the opinion that Apple’s minimalistic design isn’t the only technical solution to make a tablet computer, other designs are possible. For the informed customer there remains the predominant overall impression that the device looks [like the Apple iPad]." 

Brueckner-Hofmann went on to add, "The crucial issue was whether the Galaxy tablet looked like the drawings registered as a design right. Also, our case had nothing to do with trademarks or patents for technology."

The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Samsung has filed an appeal, but the company hasn't expounded on what grounds it’s basing the appeal on. 



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Go Samsung Go
By BZDTemp on 9/13/2011 12:59:05 PM , Rating: 5
Apple must be stupid for thinking they can win anything by starting these patent battles.




RE: Go Samsung Go
By Pirks on 9/13/11, Rating: -1
RE: Go Samsung Go
By Sazabi19 on 9/13/2011 2:03:02 PM , Rating: 2
Cmon Pirks, you almost seem to be intelligent at times and try to use your poor tiny section of brain Lord Jobs didn't steal from you. Netherlands ruled in favor of Samsun, Germany did not. 1 = 1 right now. I can't wait for the bans to be lifted and Apple has to pay Samsung for damages not being able to sale their products in these areas :)


RE: Go Samsung Go
By psaus42 on 9/13/2011 2:32:44 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure I agree that it's 1:1, though I agree with your general ideas.
Apple is at a deficit still; so more like 0.5:1 App:Sam.

Why? German victory is based on Community Design. Something that, now after reading up on it, makes me appreciate the US PTO more than I ever knew I could. Seriously.
The German injunction is insanely weak, and will be over turned in due process.

http://www.osnews.com/story/25056/The_Community_De...


RE: Go Samsung Go
By BZDTemp on 9/13/2011 2:43:43 PM , Rating: 1
Apple is not winning. They may have had some luck so far but their actions is making so much noise that even non-techy people like those that come here have taken notice.

Apple is in the process of loosing their magic, their cool and that's gonna hurt them in the long run.

As for the court room battles then the ammo for those are patents and the amount of patents that Apple have in their portfolio is laughable compared to Samsung. In 2010 Samsung was granted 4551 patents in the US, only topped by IBM, while Apple got 563. Samsung is a regular on the top 10 patent granted list while it's new for Apple to be even in the top 50. Who do you think has the most ammo to be used in the court rooms?


RE: Go Samsung Go
By Pirks on 9/13/11, Rating: 0
RE: Go Samsung Go
By Subzero0000 on 9/13/2011 9:52:51 PM , Rating: 2
Well said.


RE: Go Samsung Go
By kittypuncher on 9/14/2011 3:05:41 AM , Rating: 2
First, wow... too much time on your hands.
Second, if Apple products do just work so well, and they are what the consumer wants (understanding that the consumer is a larger piece of the market in comparison to "techies"), then explain why Apple's market share of iPhone products are starting to fall in some regions, and flattening in other regions? Apple has always been niche, and they always will be. 2012/2013 will be a repeat of this for the iPad/tablet market.

BTW, the business/corp/enterprise market is by far the largest and most lucrative market; a market that apple does abysmally poor in.

FYI - among my several professional roles, I'm an Apple-into-Enterprise integrator. So I'm not a hater. I just how to call a duck a duck.


RE: Go Samsung Go
By Subzero0000 on 9/14/2011 4:08:03 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
why Apple's market share of iPhone products are starting to fall in some regions, and flattening in other regions?


With your "several professional roles" you can't figure this out?

One reason is because the iPhone brand is already 5 years old, whoever wants iPhone had already had one, people don't jump to the next version so rapidly as before. It would not be surprising that people turn to Android for a different experience.
Besides, nowadays there are new Android phone being released every single month, Android has completely saturated the market with low to top tier device.

Who knows why Apple does not do enterprise market. Maybe they want to just concentrate on the things that they are good at.
If you set foot onto enterprise, you will go against MS/IBM/etc directly. The consumer market was their weak spot, that is where you find your money.
quote : "Do not beat the competition - make it irrelevant to your success"


RE: Go Samsung Go
By kittypuncher on 9/14/2011 4:34:34 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
quote: why Apple's market share of iPhone products are starting to fall in some regions, and flattening in other regions?
With your "several professional roles" you can't figure this out?


I have figured it out, it was a rhetorical question. A rhetoric in response to the longwinded post above insinuating that Apple is the best, and all consumers want Apple products. Yet the market is speaking, and they're speaking with Android and RIM purchases (this will change as well, and my personal hope is that MSFT becomes a strong contender in the not too distant future).
Point being, Apple as a whole is niche, and is attractive to a certain market/personality type/trait. I'm not a sociology expert nor a psychologist, so I can't elaborate or label, but most people that are willing take a step back from emotions and bias and take a pragmatic look can see some kind of trend, although they may not be able to label said trend.
Therefore, with all that said, you are correct with most of your reply.
But your last statement isn't correct -
quote:
The consumer market was their weak spot, that is where you find your money.

Any industry analyst and/or vendor will tell you the mainstream consumer market is not very profitable and quite cutthroat. Hence why I said the lucrative market is the enterprise/corp markets.
Apple does make good products. But they don't make mass acceptance products (again, refuting the long winded statement above). Therefore their products are profitable, but by extension stay niche (e.g., stay with a minimal market share).


RE: Go Samsung Go
By Subzero0000 on 9/14/2011 4:43:20 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
A rhetoric in response to the longwinded post above insinuating that Apple is the best, and all consumers want Apple products.

Ok, now I see :)


RE: Go Samsung Go
By Pirks on 9/14/2011 9:26:52 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
they don't make mass acceptance products
Is iPod a mass acceptance product or not?


RE: Go Samsung Go
By kittypuncher on 9/15/2011 3:09:06 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Is iPod a mass acceptance product or not?


Touche
The exception to the rule, with a medium-term life span. The new i"Devices" do not have a forecast the same success.


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