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HTC's Chairwoman has stated that her firm is considering buying a proprietary operating system. Many think HP's defunct webOS could be an appealing target.  (Source: HP)
Could Taiwanese phone super-star finally give webOS the TLC its fans hoped for?

Google, Inc.'s (GOOG) Android operating system may be the industry gold standard, currently accounting for approximately 50 percent of global smart phone sales, but faced with intellectual property issues and market homogenization, many top Android phonemakers are reportedly considering creating or adopting proprietary operating systems.

The latest rumor, reported by the Economic Observer of China, claims that Taiwan's HTC Corp. (SEO:066570) is considering buying an operating system for use in its best-selling smart phones.

The publications quotes HTC chairwoman Cher Wang as stating, "We have given [purchasing a proprietary OS] thought and we have discussed it internally, but we will not do it on impulse. We can use any OS we want. We are able to make things different from our rivals on the second or third layer of a platform. Our strength lies in understanding an OS, but it does not mean that we have to."

In other words HTC is content to currently use its Sense User Interface (UI) to differentiate itself on its target platforms, but it might want an operating system of its own.  While this is hardly a firm commitment, it's enough to spark much excitement in the mobile community as it leaves the door open that HTC might buy Hewlett-Packard Company's (HPQ) webOS.

WebOS was a promising operating system which had arguably some distinct advantages over its more successful competitors.  However, HP essentially ran it into the ground, failing to deliver compelling products and then bailing on its first webOS tablet after less than seven weeks on the market.

Rival South Korean phonemaker Samsung Electronics Comp, Ltd. (SEO 005930) was rumored to be considering purchasing webOS, but the company's CEO resoundingly denied these rumors.  Motorola Mobile, Inc. was rumored to be considering purchasing a third party operating system as well, before it was scooped up by Google.

Speaking of Motorola, HTC showed none of the fear of favoritism that Nokia Oyj.'s (HEL:NOK1V) CEO was sounding the alarm on.  HTC said that Google made the "correct" decision in buying Motorola, given that the acquisition bought Google intellectual property which it could use to defend its partners.  Google has said this was a key reason for the acquisition.

Ms. Wang stated that she expects Google to be very careful when considering how to sell Motorola branded devices, such as not to harm its third party hardware partners.

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RE: Why?
By Tony Swash on 9/12/2011 6:10:32 PM , Rating: 0
What's the point? Does webOS have some obscure patents that will be good bargaining chips at the lawsuit table?

Google bought Motorola. If Microsoft bought HP's PC business what do think Dell might do? Look for an alternative to Windows probably (assuming that Dell's management could think in a straight line - hence a hypothetical answer).

How can Motorola's competitors not feel exposed now Google has gone full bore into the handset business? Depending on Android would leave them very vulnerable and a plan B makes a lot of sense.

I always though Google stumbled into the Android misadventure without much strategic vision, and slowly and steadily Android drags Google into one expensive cul-de-sac after another whilst making no money for Google. Android was a defensive play from the beginning. Unfortunately it is not proving to be much of a defence. It doesn't stop Google being potentially shut out of the mobile market - which was the point of the defensive play - and it now looks likely that it will end up costing Google billions in addition to the cost of the absurd Motorola purchase. Ironically the only people making lots of money with Android are Microsoft and (soon) Oracle.

RE: Why?
By Pirks on 9/12/2011 6:38:17 PM , Rating: 2
whilst making no money for Google
This is my favorite fact about Android - while it grows its market share its competitors also grow their revenue and income, and feel quite healthy and pumped up. Basically both RIM and Apple don't care about Android grabbing a large chunk of market, they both keep growing and making gobs of money. Why bother about Android if you can make big money with your vertically integrate approach even though your market share may be much less? Totally makes sense for me.

RE: Why?
By retrospooty on 9/12/2011 7:37:24 PM , Rating: 2
You know, no-one takes either of you 2 seriously right?

This is an effect of both of you ignoring any postitive points about a competing product/company , and ignore any negative points about the product/company you fanboy for...

RE: Why?
By TakinYourPoints on 9/12/2011 8:36:39 PM , Rating: 2
The problem is that they're right in this case. Microsoft of all companies makes more money off of Android than Google does, and they make more off Android than they do their own WP7 handsets. This is due to licensing fees that they chose to collect, while Apple and Oracle are instead choosing to litigate and shut it down. In all cases so far the courts have come on the side of Microsoft, Apple, and Oracle when it comes to IP theft and breaking of patents.

In any case, Google has left their hardware partners hung out to dry and wide open to accusations of IP theft and breaking patents. If HTC is pissed, they have every right to be.

It makes complete sense why HTC wants to buy WebOS, it offers them actual protection in court and control over the complete hardware/software stack.

RE: Why?
By retrospooty on 9/12/2011 11:08:47 PM , Rating: 2
Right... but not.

Read the article again. Its about HTC possibly buying WebOS

While it is correct Google isn't making a ton of money for each Android license, its not the same business model as Apple and MS.

Google runs an entirely different business model and they made an extremely affordable mobile OS to help bolster the rest of their business. They are not in the same arena as MS and Apple...

RE: Why?
By Pirks on 9/13/2011 6:48:14 AM , Rating: 2
Read the article again. Its about HTC possibly buying WebOS
In other words, it's about HTC becoming more like RIM and Apple, less like Google and MS. Another point against your anti-RIM trolling.

RE: Why?
By robinthakur on 9/13/2011 6:27:45 AM , Rating: 2
You should do, in this case they speak the truth. Obviously Google does make money off of Android through Ad revenue, but whether this offsets the R&D and ongoing costs is another matter. Motorola mobility's acquisition was interpreted by the financial markets as being a very defensive play by Google, and the reason for this is Apple, MS and Oracle, defending their IP's against people incorporating their technology into a competing product. This has happened far too many times in the industry. Anyone remember what happened when the, at the time, dominant 3DFX squared upto Nvidia?
Android's continuing fortunes will be interesting to watch; they really do need to keep the handset manufacturers on side by defending their interests far more than they historically have. It would be much easier say for HTC to just stop proucing it's Android phones and switch to WP7 ones at the moment. It would get Apple off of their ass for one thing.

RE: Why?
By Pirks on 9/13/2011 6:37:01 AM , Rating: 2
You know, no-one takes either of you 2 seriously right?
Oh, look who's talking, Mr. Double Standards has arrived! :)) Come on man, post some more of your favorite "Apple market cap means nothing, RIM market cap means everything" double standard lunacy, hehehe :))) This is gonna be fun!

RE: Why?
By retrospooty on 9/13/2011 9:03:18 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry, I dont know what crack you are smoking, nor am I going to get caught up in your twisting of words. Apple is immensely profitable and like them or not, they make products that alot of people want, and buy. The iPhone changed the industry... Mac , not so much, but at least they are there as a viable option, I mean they do all the stuff a PC does and some people like them. As for Rim, they are not so lucky. You cannot put RIM in the same boat as Apple. Apple is steaming ahead like they are on a mission. RIM is fluttering and has been for years.

Yes yes, I know, you are going to say "but, OS7, OS7, OS7" - No-one cares about OS7, because it doesn't offer anything that isnt already out there for 2-3 years on other platforms (IOS, Android). The ONLY reason to buy a Blackberry phone is if you work at a company that uses the aged, outdated, exspensive and un-needed BB enterprise server for mobile mail. If your company doesnt have that, and you bought a Blackberry, you just might be a doofus. - end of story

RE: Why?
By Pirks on 9/13/2011 11:14:21 AM , Rating: 2
they make products that alot of people want, and buy
Same can be said about RIM.
The iPhone changed the industry
Same can be said about BlackBerry.
Apple is steaming ahead like they are on a mission. RIM is fluttering and has been for years.
RDF is strong with this one. Apple's PR machine did an excellent job with you.
it doesn't offer anything that isnt already out there for 2-3 years on other platforms
No one cares about Android and iOS, because they don't offer anything substantial that isn't already out there for 2-3 years on BlackBerry. If fart apps are your strongest advantage - be my guest man!
you bought a Blackberry, you just might be a doofus
Yeah, sure, everyone who buys products Mr. Retrospooty is not endorsing is a doofus. Riiiight... troll on, retro, troll on :) This is fun!

RE: Why?
By retrospooty on 9/13/2011 1:01:10 PM , Rating: 2
LOL... You truly are priceless Pirks. =)

RE: Why?
By Pirks on 9/13/2011 1:58:15 PM , Rating: 2
You're out of steam much faster this time ;)

RE: Why?
By retrospooty on 9/13/2011 2:16:17 PM , Rating: 2
There isnt a whole lot more to say... We have differing opinions. I think RIM's time in the sun is over and they are on the downslide toward the end, and you think wrong... LOL ;) The only real truth will be seen in time. 2 years from now we will know the answer.

One thing you cannot deny is that the market and public perception is that RIM is headed down. They can of course turn it around, but I don't see it happening, unless they come out with something better than they have now. It has to be good enough to make IOS and Android users want to switch, because the opposite is currently true.

RE: Why?
By Pirks on 9/13/2011 2:51:06 PM , Rating: 2
It has to be good enough to make IOS and Android users want to switch
Since smartphone market is growing and more and more people switch from dumbphones to smartphones, RIM can survive and prosper on the market growth alone, especially outside the US where iPhone and Android are weaker and BB is stronger, sometimes even monopolistic. So there's no urgent need to lure other smartphone users to the platform. It will be the case in the saturated non-growing market but it's not coming any time soon.

The only thing needed to change perception in the US is more fart apps, and QNX plus native C++ SDK are the solution for that.

RE: Why?
By retrospooty on 9/13/2011 7:12:02 PM , Rating: 3
RIM is a fart app

RE: Why?
By Pirks on 9/14/2011 4:17:57 PM , Rating: 2
Your brain is a fart.

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