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Jim Basillie and Mike Lazaridis have come under fire from investors of Research in Motion, who insist major change is needed.  (Source: RIM)

A sale to a rival, such as Google, is one possible solution, according to investors.  (Source: Despuesdegoogle)
Two separate proposals suggest sale of intellectual property and shakeup of executive ranks

Waterloo, Ontario-based Research in Motion, Ltd. (TSE:RIM) circa 2006-2007 appeared unstoppable.  The company was beloved by businesses worldwide and was growing fast in market share and sales.  Even Democratic Presidential hopeful Sen. Barrack Obama was deeply attached to his BlackBerry smartphone.

I. Should RIM Sell Itself?

Fast-forward five years and that vibrant company is an increasingly distant memory.  In its place is a company with a slow pace of releases, dated hardware (
the Blackberry 9860, to launch in October, will be BlackBerry's first and only smartphone this fall to compete with Apple, Inc.'s (AAPL) iPhone and Google Inc.'s (GOOG) Android hardware-wise).  Unsurprisingly sales growth has slumped both in the U.S. and abroad.  Correspondingly, the company's stock has taken a beating at the Toronto Stock Exchange.

Investors, desperate to see a turnaround, have implored RIM to explore a pair of options.

The latest effort suggests that RIM sell its rich catalog of intellectual property -- or perhaps sell its entire business to the highest bidder.  Investors salivated at Google's 
recent purchase of Motorola Mobility, which brought a handsome return for shareholders.  A RIM sale would help investors recoup their losses and perhaps even profit.

Google and others are thought to be potential buyers.

The proposal is being spearheaded by Jaguar Financial Corp. (
TSE:JFC).  JFC refuses to reveal the size of its stake in RIM, but it says it represents a coalition of various shareholders who together hold a bit under 5 percent of the company's stock (RIM has a market cap of $16.45B USD at present, so this works out to roughly $822M USD in stock).

II. Second Proposal Suggests Shakeup in Top Executive Positions

JFC CEO Vic Alboini also expressed dismay at the company's lackluster response to a second independent proposal.  

The Northwest & Ethical Investments LP in June said that RIM's Jim Balsillie and Mike Lazaridis's decision to split Chairman and CEO duties was adversely affecting the company.  They suggested the company assign one executive to each post.

RIM agreed to examine the proposal, but said they probably wouldn't get around to announcing their thoughts until January 2012.  Mr. Alboini called that slow response "woefully inadequate" and "an extreme example that management has not let go."

III. If QNX Bid Fails Will RIM Become Nortel 2.0?

Mr. Alboini is also pessimistic about RIM's last-ditch turnaround effort with its new QNX operating system.  The new operating system, which debuted on the company's PlayBook tablet, is
scheduled to roll out to the company's smartphones next year, replacing the veteran BlackBerry operating system.

Thus far, however, QNX has 
drawn mixed reviews, with many saying the best thing about it is the ability to play (some) Android apps on it.  However, many fear that Google may close that route as more RIM devices adopt QNX.

While Mr. Alboini admits that it could have a positive impact, he says the cost of failure is to great to gamble by counting on such a success.  He remarks in a Bloomberg 
interview, "The board should be saying, 'What if these products don’t pan out?' You don’t want RIM to turn into another Nortel."

Nortel Networks, like RIM, used to be a highly prized Canadian mobile services firm.  But stagnation 
bred an eventual bankruptcy and fire sale of the company's intellectual property in a bid by shareholders to recoup part of their losses.

Mr. Alboini fears RIM could eventually meet a similar fate and says the time to act is now.  And he's not alone.  In a highly publicized letter, a departing executive 
lashed out at the company's leadership for failing to respond to the changing market.  He remarked, "I have lost confidence. While I hide it at work, my passion has been sapped. I know I am not alone..."

RIM categorically rejected the criticism, insisting it was doing just fine.



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By Pirks on 9/7/2011 11:51:42 PM , Rating: 0
RIM rocks, LordSojar, RIM rocks. I know because I use their new devices. And you suck, LordSojar, you suck big time because although you never used their new devices you pretend to know something about them and about their maker. This looks stupid. A guy with no experience using a product tells lectures about this product to the guy who used it. How funny is that? In fact, I should lecture you on the topic of how much you suck, LordSojar, and how much the RIM products I use rock. Because I have a real experience and you have nothing. Got it?


By retrospooty on 9/8/2011 9:17:41 AM , Rating: 2
So, you thinik RIM is great because they finally caught up to the rest of the world with recently released OS7 devices?

Realistically speaking, RIM needs to do more than put out phones that are comparable to other manufacturers offerings from 2-3 years ago. How is that a good thing. I agree its less bad than they were a few months ago, but look at it objectively. - Hypothetical scenario. Honda motors comes out with a car that has all the features, specs and price of a 3 year old Ford of the same class/market. Lets say Honda just released a car exactly equal to a 2008 Ford Focus. Is that really a good thing?


By Pirks on 9/8/2011 12:29:34 PM , Rating: 2
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put out phones that are comparable to other manufacturers offerings from 2-3 years ago
Stop lying please, nobody 3 years ago had anything hardware and software spec-wise similar to new BB7 devices. 3 years ago a phone with 1.2GHz CPU inside and full hardware accelerated OpenGL ES 2.0 support, with high quality 800x480 3.7" multitouch capacitive screen, capable of HD video shooting and desktop like fast web browsing, BBM-like chat service and full scale BES-like large enterprise support was in your dreams only, my friend. What stinky hole do you pull all your crazy statements out from anyway? :)))
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Honda just released a car exactly equal to a 2008 Ford Focus. Is that really a good thing?
Yes if Honda has plans to release futuristic electric car next year, powered by the QNX-engine :P


By retrospooty on 9/8/2011 1:31:19 PM , Rating: 2
A phone is a phone, assuming the hardware is reliable (and RIM's are good on that front) OF course CPU's are faster today, duh. But as usual, you avoid the subject. Smartphones are all about the OS, and RIM just now caught up with what the rest of the industry was doing 3 years ago. Congrats on a great effort!

Are you trying to infer that RIM's offerings arent playing "catch up" with the rest of the industry? Or are you just doing your typical fanboy rant. Is there ANYTHING RIM can do wrong in your eyes, or are you here strictly to defend every action they take and every product they make.

You tend to ignore any postitive points about a competing product, and ignore any negative points about RIM. Why is that?


By Pirks on 9/8/2011 1:52:35 PM , Rating: 2
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RIM just now caught up with what the rest of the industry was doing 3 years ago. Congrats on a great effort
Well, getting a nice OS (QNX) and building a strikingly slick looking tablet with this OS inside is a nice progress and a good thing in general. Spin it all the negative ways you want, I still like their tablets more than iPads, mostly because of better OS, better looks and better form factor. This is solid beginning and a solid reply to Apple's attack too. I compared Playbook to multiple Android tablets in May this year and boy Android crap was FUGLY compared to Playbook. Hence my optimism w.r.t. RIM.
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Are you trying to infer that RIM's offerings arent playing "catch up" with the rest of the industry?
Are you trying to infer that Apple's iMessage ripoff isn't playing "catch up" with the RIM's BBM chat service?
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Is there ANYTHING RIM can do wrong in your eyes
The only thing they did wrong is that they delayed QNX purchase by 1 year, I have no idea why. That was dumb.
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You tend to ignore any postitive points about a competing product, and ignore any negative points about RIM
Nah, I know that iProducts have more games and fart apps, and I never ignored those positive points. If you want mobile device strictly for gaming then RIM products are not for you (yet)


By retrospooty on 9/8/2011 2:37:18 PM , Rating: 2
"Are you trying to infer that Apple's iMessage ripoff isn't playing "catch up" with the RIM's BBM chat service?

What? I didnt say anything at all about Apple. What do they have to do with this? Nice deflection though.

"Nah, I know that iProducts have more games and fart apps, and I never ignored those positive points. If you want mobile device strictly for gaming then RIM products are not for you (yet) "

Again, I didnt say anything about Apple or games, or apps for that matter. I will say I agree. We dont need 35+ fart apps, we just need one really good one ;)

Look, you chose to buy RIM products, whatever, Good for you. I dont see them catching on. I see them continuing to lose marketshare. You cannot deny the stock chart below, and you cannot deny the reasons why.

http://bit.ly/pRJ0W0

Mark my words, regarless of what you think, whis is what will happen. RIM wil have to do one of the following within a few years.

1. Innovate! Come out with something that makes them stand out.
2. Dramatically lower prices to attract buyers.

As of now the Android/Apple dominance isnt going away unless once of those 2 things happen. If RIM fails to do one or the other within a few years, we will be looking at them selling off the company to a larger buyer, or just going bankrupt. They cannot continue like they are now.


By Pirks on 9/8/2011 2:55:33 PM , Rating: 2
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What do they have to do with this?
The fact that Apple plays catch up chasing RIM's BBM chat service with its iMessage knockoff directly contradicts your myth that RIM is chasing "the industry". Got it now?
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I see them continuing to lose marketshare
"The BlackBerry has 40% smartphone market share in 2009, but total smartphones in the US as a percentage of all cell phones was only 19%. So RIM had 40% of a 19% market. Fast forward to 2011. Smartphones now account for 40% of all cell phones in the US. And RIM's share is down to 24.7%. If I was running a business selling smartphones, I'd prefer 24.7% of 40% over 40% of 19% everyday of the week"
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You cannot deny the stock chart below
And you cannot deny their raising stock price in August-September either.
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Come out with something that makes them stand out
Android has absolutely nothing that makes it to stand out, it's just another poor quality iPhone knockoff. Still, Android thrives. Same logic applies to RIM.
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As of now the Android/Apple dominance isnt going away unless once of those 2 things happen
Windows dominance did not prevent Apple to make billions selling Macs, Android dominance does not prevent Apple to make even more billions selling phones and tablets. Same logic applies to RIM.
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If RIM fails to do one or the other within a few years, we will be looking at them selling off the company to a larger buyer, or just going bankrupt. They cannot continue like they are now.
"If Apple fails to do one or the other within a few years, we will be looking at them selling off the company to a larger buyer, or just going bankrupt. They cannot continue like they are now."

^^^ (C) Mike Dell, circa 1998 or so


By retrospooty on 9/8/2011 3:12:33 PM , Rating: 2
"The fact that Apple plays catch up chasing RIM's BBM chat service with its iMessage knockoff directly contradicts your myth that RIM is chasing "the industry". Got it now? "

No-one... I repeat No-one buys a phone for the chat service. That is just another stupid comment from you.


"Android has absolutely nothing that makes it to stand out, it's just another poor quality iPhone knockoff. Still, Android thrives. Same logic applies to RIM. "


A nice OS, a variety of phones ranging from 2.5 inch screens to 4.3 with even larger ones announced. Models with and without keyboards, removable batteries, tons of apps, and market momentum come to mind. The Navi is absolutely incredible Uses Google maps off the internet so its always updated. Any questions? Another stupid comment from you.

"Windows dominance did not prevent Apple to make billions selling Macs, Android dominance does not prevent Apple to make even more billions selling phones and tablets. Same logic applies to RIM. "

Apple sells nice computers at high prices. Do you seriously think RIM can start selling phones at higher prices than Apple and Android models? LOL. Another stupid comment from you.


"^^^ (C) Mike Dell, circa 1998 or so "


Uhh, Dell dropped prices. They sell the cheapest PC of any major OEM... So they did do option #2 and it worked for them. Another stupid comment from you.

Face it man there are no arguments to be made here other than the ones in your head.


By Pirks on 9/8/2011 3:34:49 PM , Rating: 2
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No-one buys a phone for the chat service
How about those gazillions of UK teens who are BBMing almost around o'clock? So you are saying these teens do not exist eh? HAHAHAHA :)))) Good one. You are one of those guys who think that the Earth is the same as the US :))) Soo funny :)))

RIM too has a nice BB OS (OS 7 is pretty nice in everyday use and QNX is even better), a variety of phones ranging from 2.8" screens to 3.7" with even larger to be unveiled in QNX phone. Models with and without keyboards, removable batteries, tons of apps (well, less fart apps than in Android but this disadvantage is not critical for everyone, gotta admit), and strong user base in corporations and youth population around the world, not just in the US, come to mind. The Navi is absolutely incredible, uses some online maps (Bing?) off the internet so its always updated.

RIM already sells phones for the same price as Apple and high end Android models, and those new phones are usually sold out pretty fast in stores.

Dell dropped prices, but RIM doesn't have to because they already have low end models for cheap.

Any more stupid comments from you?


By W00dmann on 9/8/2011 3:58:32 PM , Rating: 2
Pirks, you should just sit cross-legged on the ground, soil your diapers, raise both arms to the sky and go "waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!" at the top of your lungs whilst tears fall from your eyes. Because that is how you come across with each and every post.


By Pirks on 9/8/2011 4:27:39 PM , Rating: 1
Is that all you got, pussy? :)))


By retrospooty on 9/8/2011 5:39:02 PM , Rating: 2
Okeedokke dood. There is no arguing with you. Time will tell what RIM does. Unfortunately for RIM, not alot of zealots like you.

Curious... How does your skewed brain spin this 60% stock drop while the rest of the market was not dropping (aside from calling it a 5% increase over the past month which you already did 2x) ?

http://bit.ly/pRJ0W0

Spin that one!


By Pirks on 9/8/2011 6:14:31 PM , Rating: 2
I'd spin it the same way you'd spin the Apple meteoric rise in stock price, given that they are still heavily pwned by Windows and Android and always remain a small niche platform.

In other words, if Apple's stock price has absolutely nothing to do with market realities, why then RIM's stock price can't do exatly the same, huh?

I wanna see you retro spin THAT one haha :)))


By retrospooty on 9/8/2011 8:08:04 PM , Rating: 2
Again, you are back to Apple. becasue your RIM argument has no merit.

Spin? Apple's stock rose based on very simple concepts. Apple had x products that were expected to sell y amounts at z profit per unit. In most cases, they not only sold y amounts, but more than expected (y) amounts, and they had a good R&D pipeline to insure future products - thus market goodness. Rim doesn't have that, and prospects look bleak, thus the drop.

You can deny all you want. It makes no difference in the real world. Enjoy your new Blackberry. It will likely be the lst, because surely in 2 years, even you will have to admit that they cant compete.

Also, RIM sucks, they cant innovate or react fast enough... I know it, JM knows it, the stockholders know it , the boardmembers know it, the whole tech world knows it. Everyone seems to know it except for you... So enjoy your island.


By Pirks on 9/8/2011 9:24:09 PM , Rating: 2
RIM can't innovate fast enough when in fact their tablet is better than iPad hardware and especially OS wise? Are you drunk or high? Or you just talk out of your ass because the only experience you got with new RIM phones/tablets is reading JM's "reviews"?


By retrospooty on 9/8/2011 10:52:30 PM , Rating: 2
Just stop already... RIM sucks, and you need to face facts.

Suck - in 2008 their stock was 150 points, now its in the low 30's. Thats appx 1/5 the value. NOT a good thing.

Suck - http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/15/us-rim-p...

Suck - http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-06-27/rim-lo...

Suck - http://www.bgr.com/2011/06/30/open-letter-to-black...

Suck - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-06/rim-urged...

I could post on and on, but you just dont see it through your blind fanboy hat. EVERYONE can see this but you. But, what does the rest of the world and the financial systems of the world know. Pirks has fanboy power and that beats all.

Also, BTW, RIM sucks. They suck.

They just suck.

Also, they suck.


By Pirks on 9/8/2011 11:55:20 PM , Rating: 2
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NOT a good thing
Your twin brothers - anti-MS trolls - were bashing stagnant MS stock price for years and years, so what? MS spits on them from above, same as RIM spits on you from above. Your other twin brothers - anti-Apple trolls - were also bashing Apple because of Apple's tiny global market share. Apple spits on them too. Notice any pattern there?

You suck, RIM rocks - http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/07/the-blackberry-playb...

You suck, RIM rocks - http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones/becoming-a-b...

You suck, RIM rocks - http://blogs.blackberry.com/2011/07/blackberry-app...

You suck, RIM rocks - http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/23/rims-qnx-phones-are-...


By retrospooty on 9/9/2011 8:01:49 AM , Rating: 2
Again, you evade. This isnt about MS stagnant stock (which btw, never tanked to 1/5 its previous high) nor is it about Apple. Nor is it about your 4 opinion links. It's about what you dont want to address... RIM's decline.

Whatever though. You can stay ion denial and be right... all the way until Rim doesnt exist anymore.

Palm anyone?


By Pirks on 9/9/2011 10:20:21 AM , Rating: 2
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RIM's decline
"The BlackBerry has 40% smartphone market share in 2009, but total smartphones in the US as a percentage of all cell phones was only 19%. So RIM had 40% of a 19% market. Fast forward to 2011. Smartphones now account for 40% of all cell phones in the US. And RIM's share is down to 24.7%. If I was running a business selling smartphones, I'd prefer 24.7% of 40% over 40% of 19% everyday of the week"


By retrospooty on 9/9/2011 3:29:47 PM , Rating: 2
oh, OK, now I get it. That clearly explains the stock plummeting from 150 to 30. Obviously things are really looking up for RIM, and the stock market is a troll. Maybe wall street is listening to mean old Jason Mick. =(

Your too funny man.


By Pirks on 9/9/2011 3:38:14 PM , Rating: 2
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the stock market is a troll
Well, the market share of Apple keeps shrinking and market share of Android keeps growing. Still Apple stock price does not go down. But in exactly the same case - when RIM market share goes down in the US - its stock DOES GO DOWN.

So stock market has double standards. Falling market share of Apple is treated as a GOOD sign and its stock price grows. But falling market share of RIM is treated as BAD sign, and its stock price falls.

I leave it to you to decide whether the stock market is a troll or not.


By retrospooty on 9/9/2011 3:55:22 PM , Rating: 2
"I leave it to you to decide whether the stock market is a troll or not. "

I think you already did that. Clearly the stock market is unfair to RIM and doesn't realize how great things are going there. /rolls eyes.


By Pirks on 9/9/2011 4:00:12 PM , Rating: 2
well, according to the stock market logic the shrinking market share is GOOD! see, this is why I'm optimistic about RIM's shrinking market share. I don't know what you're trying to tell me, that it is bad? well, if it were BAD then Apple stock would go down, but it doesn't. meaning what? meaning that it's GOOD! hehe :P


By retrospooty on 9/9/2011 4:02:59 PM , Rating: 2
- Riiiiight!


By Pirks on 9/9/2011 4:18:26 PM , Rating: 2
don't shoot the messenger man, I'm just telling what stock markets told me


By retrospooty on 9/10/2011 9:40:59 AM , Rating: 2
Look what the market just told me!!!

RIM at the bottom of the list, lower than even Palm. Thats bad!

http://www.jdpower.com/news/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2...


By Pirks on 9/10/2011 10:01:56 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah that's for BB6 and BB6 is dead. BB7 is out there since mid-August. Time to wake up retro.


By retrospooty on 9/11/2011 9:04:33 AM , Rating: 2
1. your assuming all of those unhappy marks are due to OS5, and 6 with no info

2. Your assuming anyone goves a crap about OS7, when IOS and Android are already up and running in stride.

I am not saying OS7 isnt good, I am saying its too little too late. No-one cares.


By Pirks on 9/11/2011 11:29:48 AM , Rating: 2
1. No info needed as all these surveys are taken months before mid-August when BB7 started trickling down the North American markets. Hence it's all about one-two year old BB5 and BB6 which are crappy for modern consumer smartphone standards. Fortunatley BB7 got back on track.

2. You assume that gazillions of teens and enterprise users that happily use BBs around the world, not just in the US, do not exist.

I'm not saying iOS and Android are not attacking, they do, but with BB7 they only have fart apps and a few hyped up 3D games like Infinity Blade left as advantage. You can convince yourself that fart apps and 3D games is all that needed to pull all BB users to iOS and Android, fortunately your view of the world does not match the view of all the other smartphone users, especially outside the US where BB is famous for capturing the markets of some conutries almost completely. Try South America, South Africa, a lot of smaller Caribbean/Asian markets which are essentially owned by BB and are untapped resource for future growth and which BB is destined to own, unlike US-centered Android and iPhone designs.

It will take Android and iOS much more to capture those markets than a few clueless US-centric trolls like JM and yourself.

BTW your myth about stock price meaning anything was just debunked in the other thread here about Apple, where multiple people like Alexstarfire declared that market cap means sh1t. See http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=22682... - therefore your hyped up "RIM's market cap decline" doom and gloom is worth the same, i.e. SH!T.

And the fact that you had nothing to say to Alexstarfire and others in the that thread shows that you agree with his sentiments about market cap meaning nothing. Hence you can't stand behind your view (that "market cap is supersignificant") when it's challenged by others like Alexstarfire. What a pitiful softy troll you are :))) I expected you to give Alexstarfire some hard time and challenge his views but you sheep kept so quiet there.

Just proves that you guys troll RIM with no reason whatsoever. Exactly my point from the very beginning here.

I'm not against trolling, it could be fun, I'm just pointing out the real reasons behind it. Mick is Android fanboy, you are RIM hater, and so on. Don't hide those true reasons next time please.


By retrospooty on 9/11/2011 12:43:49 PM , Rating: 2
You are delusional my friend. I am not a RIM hater, I was just pointing out reality to you. A point which your denial field will not accept. If you want to buy RIm products, its your free choice. Realize that the rest of the world is moving on to better things.

I am done on this particular thread. SO, until next time, when a RIM article gets posted about how poorly they are doing lately, and you jump in with your spin trying to (for some unknown reason) convince the world that RIM does not suck... When the world has clearly realized (and more and more each day) that they are done for. Fast forward 2 years and you will be where Palm was a year ago. With a good OS that no-one cares about.


By Pirks on 9/12/2011 12:29:07 AM , Rating: 2
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you jump in with your spin trying to convince the world that RIM does not suck
No, I only convinced the world that JM is biased and one should not trust him if one wants to know what RIM is up to.

The rest is your pure fantasy, my friend.


By mkrech on 9/8/2011 4:05:19 PM , Rating: 2
Pirks, you have obviously been online all day. Couldn't you look up the Dell quote by now?

"What would I do? I'd shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders," Michael Dell said before a crowd of several thousand IT executives.
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-203937.html


By Pirks on 9/8/2011 4:14:57 PM , Rating: 2
Details don't matter because analogy still works.


By nocturne_81 on 9/9/2011 5:04:11 AM , Rating: 2
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Hypothetical scenario. Honda motors comes out with a car that has all the features, specs and price of a 3 year old Ford of the same class/market...


Horrible example.. Keep in mind that a generation of a model of car typically lasts 6-10 years, and very little changes year to year. If you go to a dealership and can get last year's model cheaper -- you'd be an absolute idiot to buy the new model unless there are substantial changes. In many cases, such as the last generation Toyota Camry's, build quality can be severely reduced year to year.


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