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Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7
Samsung gets hit over the head again by Apple and a German court

Remember that striking new Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 that was unveiled just a few days ago at the IFA consumer electronics show in Berlin, Germany? Well, Samsung has already pulled the promotional material and prototypes off the show floor.

SlashGear first noticed this yesterday, and a spokesman for Samsung simply stated, "Samsung has removed the Galaxy Tab 7.7 from our stand at IFA. We cannot make any further comment as we have not received an official statement from the court.” 

Bloomberg confirmed that a Dusseldorf court on Friday granted Apple's request to add the Galaxy Tab 7.7 to the list of banned Samsung devices in Germany. As a result, Samsung is forbidden from selling or marketing the Galaxy Tab 7.7 in that country.

“Samsung respects the court’s decision,” said Samsung spokesman James Chung to Bloomberg. He went on to add that Apple's actions in this matter “severely limits consumer choice in Germany.” 

As its name implies, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 features a 7.7" Super AMOLED display with a 1280x800 resolution. The tablet also packs a 5,100 mAh battery, 1.4GHz dual-core processor, up to 64GB of storage, microSD slot, 802.11n, Bluetooth 3.0, rear- and front-facing cameras, and GPS. 

A court injunction in early August weighed heavily in Apple's favor, as it banned all sales and marketing of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in the European Union. That ruling was largely scaled back, however, and was limited to just Germany (the Dusseldorf court did not have the authority to expand it's ban hammer to other entities in the European Union).

Outside of the European Union, Apple has also succeeded in preventing the sales and marketing of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Australia. Samsung later decided to give up fighting the injunction and will instead wait until a final ruling is handled down on September 26 regarding its fate in the country. 

Apple is on the warpath when it comes to protecting the sales of its cash cow iPad. Using rather "diplomatic" language, the Cupertino, California-based company in an April lawsuit chided Samsung; "Rather than innovate and develop its own technology and a unique Samsung style for its smartphone products and computer tablets, Samsung chose to copy Apple's technology, user interface and innovative style in these infringing products."

Apple delivered an even more snarky statement to journalist Ina Fried expressing its frustration with Samsung's "copy machine". "It’s no coincidence that Samsung’s latest products look a lot like the iPhone and iPad, from the shape of the hardware to the user interface and even the packaging. This kind of blatant copying is wrong, and we need to protect Apple’s intellectual property when companies steal our ideas.”



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Ridiculous...
By nocturne_81 on 9/4/2011 1:49:23 PM , Rating: 4
I just can't believe that Samsung has actually been found guilty of infringement, instead of the other way around. After all, they've been making 'thin, black rectangles' for decades -- lcd monitors (huge proof of prior art there -- nowhere in the design patent is the type of device mentioned), tablets, phones, and even eerily tablet-like digital photo frames which you could even watch movies and listen to music on.

Apple simply hasn't come up with an original product since they invented the computer mouse. They've merely just kept a finger on the pulse of the market, intelligently noticing trends and exploiting them to their advantage. None of their products are at all revolutionary, but instead are highly successful due to the highly obsessive nature of their fans.

I challenge any and all here to name a single product or service of Apple's from the last 20 years that was original and unique.




RE: Ridiculous...
By Solandri on 9/4/2011 3:09:08 PM , Rating: 3
If Samsung had bothered applying for the ridiculous design patents Apple did, there's a good chance the situation could have been reversed and the iPads banned from sale in the market. Samsung designed the appearance it used on its tablets 4 years before Apple ever breathed the name "iPad".
http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/samsung-digital...

If the courts care at all about prior art, Apple is going to lose these lawsuits handily.


RE: Ridiculous...
By sprockkets on 9/4/2011 5:10:40 PM , Rating: 2
But at least here in the US and abroad (not sure since Samsung's reputation in Korea is quite different) Samsung isn't a douchebag like apple who cares.

Remember when the Motorola CEO or high up called them "Samesung" for copying their Q smartphone with the Blackjack? Aside from that, nothing else happened. No lawsuits, no patent war, nothing.

This is why we hate Apple. And why they can GF themselves.


RE: Ridiculous...
By Kiffberet on 9/5/11, Rating: 0
RE: Ridiculous...
By sprockkets on 9/5/2011 12:59:59 PM , Rating: 2
I can bet you $100 you have no idea how a microsoft tablet works, because if you did, all the BS about people saying "it wasn't a tablet OS from the ground up" would make no sense.


RE: Ridiculous...
By thetruth81 on 9/6/2011 11:44:39 AM , Rating: 2
I have use a microsoft tablet and it was a dog. It was a heavy operating system on a lite processor. The battery life sucked and it dragged everytime I did anything on it. The problem is not the hardware but that software lagged. If windows would of pushed a lite operating system on the hardware, it might of actually caught on before apple came out with the Ipad. Have you notice there are still not any major tablets with a windows operating system.


RE: Ridiculous...
By nocturne_81 on 9/5/2011 2:57:04 PM , Rating: 4
I will give you one fact -- all apple products are impeccably designed from the ground up, with a very high level of build quality (poisonous plastics aside). But to say that they got there first (in any context) is simply wrong.

To most of you, it seems you had no idea what a smartphone was prior to the iPhone or Android releases -- and choose to ignore a decade of prior development on windows mobile (the OS that made HTC) and symbian. There were a lot of incredible devices (I still have a few), but they were simply too complicated for most users, who weren't capable of loading custom roms and finding obscure apps on the net. What iOS/Android really did was change the smartphone into a service instead of a product -- using it as a platform to sell all sorts of content, making smartphones finally profitable.

And tablets are nothing new, either.. Every PC manufacturer has been coming out with a prototype every few years since the mid 90s -- some were really incredible, though most never made it to market, and those that did were a bit out of most people's reach at around $2k apiece. People just couldn't justify paying twice as much for half a notebook with half the power and capability.

Put an iPhone next to a Galaxy S, or an iPad next to a Galaxy tab... I'm sorry, there's just no comparison. Besides the slightly more solid feel of the iPhone, the Galaxy series trumps it in simply every which way.


RE: Ridiculous...
By TEAMSWITCHER on 9/5/11, Rating: -1
RE: Ridiculous...
By amanojaku on 9/5/2011 11:45:43 AM , Rating: 5
Really...

Telautograph - Elisha Gray, 1888
Electronic capture of handwriting using a stylus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telautograph
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/386815.pdf

Controller - H.E. Goldberg, 1915
Handwriting recognition using a stylus
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/1117184.pdf

Telautograph System - H.C. Moodey, 1942
Touchscreen for handwriting input
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/2269599.pdf

PenPad - Pencept, 1982
MS-DOS PC operated by handwriting and gesture recognition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenPad

PenPoint OS - GO Corporation, 1991
An early dedicated tablet/PDA OS with handwriting and gesture recognition
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1161457,00.as...

I won't bother to list the components, like the ARM CPUs or capacitive touchscreens. Or the tablets that blazed the trail, like the PaceBlade. I will ask the question "what did Apple invent?" Multi-touch!!!

http://www.businessinsider.com/and-boy-have-we-pat...

Oh, but wait, Steve is a f---ing liar. Apple ACQUIRED multi-touch from the purchase of Fingerworks a year before the iPhone release. And, it doesn't matter, anyway:

Digital Desk - Piere Wellner, 1991
Multi-touch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8lCetZ_57g

and

Multi-Touch Sensing - J. Han, 1995
Multi-Touch Sensing through Frustrated Total Internal Reflection
http://cs.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirsense/index.html


RE: Ridiculous...
RE: Ridiculous...
By nocturne_81 on 9/4/2011 6:11:18 PM , Rating: 2
As I said before, they haven't come up with anything original since the computer mouse... and also stated anything original in the last 20 years..


RE: Ridiculous...
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/4/2011 6:16:20 PM , Rating: 2
No, you said...

quote:
Apple simply hasn't come up with an original product since they invented the computer mouse.


They didn't invent the mouse....


RE: Ridiculous...
By kmmatney on 9/4/2011 6:52:06 PM , Rating: 2
They were the first to use a mouse in a mainstream operating system. (I don't think you can count Xerox - what they made a few years earlier was not really a consumer computer at $20+K).


RE: Ridiculous...
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/4/2011 7:00:27 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Bill English, builder of Engelbart's original mouse,[13] invented the ball mouse in 1972 while working for Xerox PARC.[14]


They still didn't invent it...which was the reason for my post...


RE: Ridiculous...
By nocturne_81 on 9/5/2011 12:33:17 AM , Rating: 2
Ahh... Sorry, honestly looked over that.. I figured they didn't exactly invent anything, but were largely attributed to the mouse's success (though, common sense could be argued).

I stand corrected.. Apple has never had an original product..


RE: Ridiculous...
By Tony Swash on 9/5/11, Rating: 0
RE: Ridiculous...
By nocturne_81 on 9/6/2011 5:18:58 AM , Rating: 4
Nobody ever denied Apple wasn't great at making money -- but they still didn't invent anything. But, case for case..

I suppose you aren't old enough to remember when nearly every home that had a computer, had an Apple II -- one of the most successful computers of all time. Having a great share of the market through the late 80s, they had no place to go -- but down. Year after year Mac sales dropped and with the release of Win95, Apple became no longer relevant. Sure, OSX certainly helped swing things back around (still nothing original -- it was largely based on work done by BSD and other opensource communities). In recent years, though, sales have been floundering (though recent price-cuts have helped) -- and as I'm sure you know, the only figures that show growth, include iOS devices in addition to OSX. So if anything, Apple has fallen oh so far, and is only recently turning things around.

And the iPod..? Eh.. If you don't recall, it was a bit of a flop to start (despite all the cheery commercials). The first generation didn't even work on Windows, and with the second generation you had to use MusicMatch. Personally, I appreciated the build quality and capacitive controls, but the interface was always clunky and very limited, at least until several years later when iTunes became fully established. Compared to an Archos Jukebox or any flash-based PMP... well..

They made an online store, and they made a retail chain, and then they made money -- big surprise. But, original..? I guess you could say it's original to convince people to buy products for twice as much as they are worth.. oh wait -- did Apple invent the Mall..?

The iPhone -- already been much discussed here. 'Best selling' is moronic way of putting it -- they only have one model (though if you count cdma/gsm, or split them between between carriers like the Galaxy S sales figures..), while every other manu has an entire slew, releasing new products every few months. That's why Apple is still 4th in total sales (though depends on where you read it). And if profits are so great, why the slumping activations and slews of lawsuits..?

Tablets.. You can't really compare an iPad to a tablet PC -- the idea alone is laughable. Though, there were many ARM-based portable devices, for many years -- pda's. Limited in size as they were, I still maintain they were much more convenient. In 2002 I had a handheld device that I could browse the net on, get turn by turn gps navigation, play games, listen to music, watch movies.. The only limitation was the size of technology, and eventually the burgeoning smartphone market forced pda's out completely. An arm-based tablet, to me.. it's not a pc, it's not a phone.. what's the point?

Webkit.. I suppose you never knew that apple just took konqueror's khtml engine, jazzed it up a bit, and gave it a new name. Most of the work in the last few years that has made webkit so successful was largely do to work done by KDE and Google. And almost all..? Is that what your definition of 20-25% market share is? (again, thanks to Google)

What they did do was create clever marketing to get consumers to buy inferior products for twice the cost, so I guess there's that.. They've had a long history of finding incredible work done by others and slapping their own name on it -- so I maintain that No, they haven't invented anything.


RE: Ridiculous...
By Tony Swash on 9/6/11, Rating: 0
RE: Ridiculous...
By Alexstarfire on 9/6/2011 3:02:27 PM , Rating: 2
Is that even surprising? PC doesn't really have anywhere to grow. The two products are mutually exclusive so while pretty much everyone has a PC already they could still purchase a Mac.

IDK if I'd say they crush all their competition either. That implies that almost no one uses other devices which simply isn't true. On top of that, if they are crushing them so bad then why the lawsuits? If they weren't afraid they'd just out-innovate and leave the rest in the dust.... unfortunately that will never happen.


RE: Ridiculous...
By retrospooty on 9/6/2011 3:22:25 PM , Rating: 2
"I guess you missed news that Mac sales growth had outpaced PC market growth comfortably for the last 21 consecutive quarters"

Come back down to earth man... Its not that big. Growing slightly, but not headed for any major changes. The world runs off PC and will continue to until someone comes out with something better. So far, no-one has ever come close including Apple.

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/os-market-share.as...

OK, serious question... Is there ANYTHING Apple can do wrong in your eyes, or are you here strictly to defend every action they take and every product they make? It's one thing to prefer a particular product, and I understand why some people like MAC's, but its another thing to be a complete "fanboy" and ignore any postitive points about a competing product, and ignore any negative points about Apple.


RE: Ridiculous...
By nocturne_81 on 9/6/2011 3:23:41 PM , Rating: 2
I've stated repeatedly that Apple has done incredibly well designing and marketing their products (most profitable tech company in the world, though not even close to the largest), but you still avoid the fact that they have no original products. As for sales and market share, it largely depends on what source you look at -- NPD has been back and forth, IDC hasn't noticed much of an upswing in shipments, and an article referencing (or non-referencing, more accurately) statements an executive of Apple makes are decidedly one sided. As for market share: http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-m...

What they sell to their fans is not a product, but an identity. Millions of consumers feel that all they need to do is buy an Apple product and they're instantly an artist or DJ. You can watch them in line at a coffee shop spot each other with iPhones in hand, nodding to each other in a silent acknowledgement as if they belong to an exclusive club. Apple is no longer the 'rebel' as envisioned in their iconic 80s commercial, but now plays the role of the 'conformist'.

I have a close personal friend who has lusted after the iPhone for years, and months back finally got one. The poor chump has no idea to do with this marvelling piece of tech, besides play angry birds and use it as a phone (he can't even figure out how to set up his email and facebook apps). He didn't buy an iPhone because it had the capability in a phone he wanted/needed -- he just wanted to be part of the exclusive club, and meanwhile I chuckle every time he answers his phone upside down.

And head hunted..? I suppose not.. I've always avoided working in the tech industry, unless you count a few websites (why ruin a passion by turning it into work?). I was even originally going to be a lawyer, though the concept made me sick to my stomach. I'd rather avoid working in a office with a barcode pinned to my chest, honestly.

And, I suppose I may indeed be a brainiac -- at least when compared to your horrid grammar.


RE: Ridiculous...
By OoklaTheMok on 9/6/2011 12:11:44 AM , Rating: 2
I am so tired of hearing "how original" Apple is with their designs. Apple doesn't have any original designs. Everything they have is a rip off of Dieter Rams designs.

I don't see how Apple can sue anyone for something that they lifted from someone else in the first place.


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