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The New York Stock Exchange has shed almost 1,500 points in the last month.  (Source: How Stuff Works)

Bitcoins, though, have suffered even deeper losses, and aren't a good investment to turn to.  (Source: Bitcoin Forum)

Treasury bonds are a far better investment that bitcoins in recessionary climates.  (Source:
Cybercurrency is intriguing premise, but has seen a flurry of recent devaluation

I've recently heard a couple of advertisements on satellite radio suggesting, of all things, that customers dive into bitcoins as a "stable" investment in the midst of the troubled U.S. economy.  In the midst of a seemingly impending recession, some might be tempted to try such a scheme.  Let's be perfectly clear -- while bitcoins are a worthy pursuit to dabble in, considering them as a place to put your nest egg is a pretty poor decision.

I. Bitcoins are in a Recession Themselves

After a meteoric rise to prices of up to $30 USD/bitcoin at their peak, the crypto-currency has plunged down to around $8 USD.  This alone should be enough to convince any logical investor to stay away.  But it's also important to consider the currency's strong current connection to the USD.

Over the last 30 days 82,099.28€ (Euros), $133,353.44 CAD (Canadian dollars), £119,336.29 (British pounds), and 607,234.53 PLN (Polish zloty) in Bitcoin have been traded on international exchanges.  At current rates, that's approximately $659K USD in volume.  By contrast, the top four USD-based exchanges managed $14.521M USD in trades, or roughly 22 times as much volume.

With approximately 95 percent of trades being in USD, the fortune of the USD intimately affects the fortune of the bitcoin.

When you combine the aspects that bitcoins are tied to the fate of the U.S. economy and that they've been on a downward plunge even sharper than the U.S. economy, the outlook is not pretty for bitcoins as a serious investment bid.  Even amid the stock market's huge losses (with today's $300+ USD decline, the New York Stock Exchange is at its lowest level since December 2010), bitcoins are still not a solid alternative to guaranteed securities like treasury bonds, or a diverse portfolio.

II. Bitcoin Mining is in the Midst of a Correction

Another issue with bitcoin looms on the mining end.  Bitcoin is trying to condense the natural creation of a non-commodity currency to just a couple decades, so it relies on initial seeding of wealth (similar to how people laid claim to natural resource stakes, which in turn gave rise to non-commodity wealth).

But the seeding is hitting a roadblock, as it's no longer advantageous to mine.  With difficulty soaring, it's now impossible for most video cards to break even.  The fastest graphics cards by Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (AMD) still stand a chance to break even, but they require more than a year of work.

Meanwhile, the difficulty continues to rise at an unforgiving pace.

For those who already have money sunk into bitcoin hardware, they may keep mining for a time, but it may be unsurprising if they start to sell off their stockpiled hardware.

In the long term the market will thus correct itself as, in theory, computation gains will outpace the rate of mining.  However, now is simply not a great time to enter the market as a miner.

III. The Big Picture

Returning to the original point, given the current climate bitcoins are not a much safer investment than stocks, as some purport them to be.  They're actually much worse, at present.

This picture may change, when and if:
  1. Bitcoin trade in foreign currencies picks up, allowing a truly independent currency.
  2. Bitcoin mining difficulties stabilize.
  3. Bitcoin exchange prices stabilize.
Until these corrections fall into place, the currency is simply not a viable investment.

Fans of bitcoin may react negatively to this analysis, but it's hard to argue the hard facts.  Bitcoin is a terrific concept, and one worth supporting.  But when it comes to your money, an investment in bitcoins today, is essentially throwing away a chunk of your money, or perhaps breaking even in the case of mining (given hardware depreciation).

So as the U.S. faces a potential "double dip" recession, consider building a diverse portfolio of bonds, commodities, and stock from highly stable companies (GOOGAAPLIBM, etc.) as a way to guard your assets -- and avoid the bitcoins.

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RE: What the F**&*&*^&*^?????
By The Raven on 8/10/2011 6:24:09 PM , Rating: 2
lol I see where I was mistaken there. The value (in USD) did not double.

You are correct except that I am not trying to make money in this instance. Yes, I know loss is a possibility. As I said...
But you certainly wouldn't be broke. And that is the point. It is not people trying to get rich off of tech stocks in the 90s or people trying to get the house of their dreams in the 00s. People investing in gold want safety.

The cost would not be $2500. It would be $2500-$1700(the value of the gold that you can cash out now)=$800. If I had $800 in '79 bought gold and it is now worthless then that would be a loss of $2500. The current value of the gold needs to be in the calculation.

On the other hand this does not include the opportunity cost of not investing in something like Exxon (or maybe even BTC ;-) But these options do not provide safety. At least with gold you end up with $1700 today. But investing in Pan Am (or maybe even BTC ;-) could leave you with nothing.

And also we are talking about buying gold at the worst possible time. Because as you said, it is unwise to buy high. But in this case you STILL end up with money in the bank.
But then again, in this scenario, we might be selling at the BEST possible time too. Five years ago the cost would be greater.
But as part of a long-term strategy there is nothing wrong with buying the gold at the height of a bubble and selling at the height of a bubble. With the uncertainty going on right now, I wouldn't doubt gold climbing up to $2500. As we have pointed out...It essentially happened in 1979.

So I certainly won't be buying at that price ;-)

I'm not sure if you think I believe people should put everything into gold or not, so let me clarify that I agree with Wu Tang Financial because you should definitely diversify. I'm only addressing the merits of gold as an investment.

Now I'm not sure if I misunderstood your initial comment or not but I thought you were saying that you would lose $2500. But I think we are now in agreement here on the numbers, though we may disagree on investment strategy. Please excuse my mistakes, I do get it wrong in these comments sometimes.

RE: What the F**&*&*^&*^?????
By Integral9 on 8/11/2011 9:20:52 AM , Rating: 2
wow, I'm such an a--. I think I thought you started the thread and so my comments should not have been directed to you. My bad. Respect.

but yeah, if guy who started this thread was my investor, I'd fire him faster than he could say gold.

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