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The Galaxy Tab 10.1 (right) is currently banned from sales in Australia, pending the result of Apple's lawsuit against Samsung. No reports of the iPad being banned have arrived yet.  (Source: Daily Mobile)

Apple CEO Steve Jobs has proudly admitted to "stealing" ideas from competitors, but argues that Android "steals" from his company's ideas and shouldn't be allowed to, legally.  (Source: Jim Wilson/The New York Times)
Company will repay Samsung for lost revenue if it loses the case

Apple, Inc. (AAPL) has scored a major victory in latest round of lawsuits [1][2] courtesy of a ban on Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd.'s (SEO:005930) Australian Android tablet sales.  

Google Inc.'s (GOOG) Android platform is outselling the iPhone 2 to 1 and is growing at a faster pace than Apple.  So Apple is now trying to stifle its competitor with lawsuits.  It is currently suing all three [1][2][3] of the world's largest Android handset makers.

This week, Samsung agreed to cease sales and advertising of its Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Australia, pending the outcome of a suit Apple filed against it in Australian court.  The suit is one of many that Apple has filed against Samsung in international courts.  

Like the other suits, in this one Apple contends that Samsung "slavishly" worked to steal its intellectual property, including its patented iPad design -- a thin rectangular tablet with a glass screen and black bezel.  Apple also claims Samsung stole its touchscreen technology.  In all 10 of Apple's patents are cited as being infringed.

Steven Burley, a lawyer for Apple, says the ban on sales was necessary as Samsung made "announcements of an imminent launch of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 device ongoing since July 20."

So far Samsung has not made similar agreements in the North America, Europe, or Asia.  However, Apple is pursuing a preliminary injunction banning sales in these regions.

Samsung is countersuing Apple.  The company has one of the world's largest patent portfolios and holds more U.S. patents than Apple.  Thus some legal experts believe Apple may have picked an intellectual property fight with the wrong company.

Apple chief executive and co-founder, Steven P. Jobs has bragged about his mastery of stealing ideas from others, stating [video], "Picasso had a saying - 'Good artists copy, great artists steal.' And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas." 

Mr. Jobs contends Android handset makers like Samsung, HTC, and Motorola should not be allowed to "steal" the iPad and iPhone's copyrighted look and designs.  

Critics have contended that Apple's patents are so broad that they cover every smart phone and tablet in existence today, as well as non-mobile devices like personal computers.

Apple has agreed to pay Samsung unspecified damages for lost sales, if it loses the case.  It is unclear if this agreement would cover lost sales in the case of a "draw" -- a scenario, which could occur if both companies win their respective lawsuits, forcing a cross-licensing agreement. 



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RE: Abusing the patent system
By Mudhen6 on 8/1/2011 4:01:05 PM , Rating: 5
The bezel is approximately the same size for functional reasons. You can't have a touchscreen, edge-to-edge tablet - how would you hold the device without confusing the touch sensors?

In the same vein, you cannot simply halve the width of the bezel; you must design the width of the bezel to account for the size of the average human hand.

Apple fanbois seem to lack the intellect to understand that the designs/specs of devices tend to converge because of use and function, not because everyone is copying each other. For example, the previous suggestion to make a "round" tablet is laughable. There are not enough downvotes in the internet to describe how idiotic that idea is.


RE: Abusing the patent system
By SunAngel on 8/1/2011 4:33:26 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
For example, the previous suggestion to make a "round" tablet is laughable. There are not enough downvotes in the internet to describe how idiotic that idea is.


+1


RE: Abusing the patent system
By Dark Legion on 8/3/2011 10:50:45 AM , Rating: 2
O.o Wasn't that your suggestion? At any rate, smartphones and tablets had been out for years in very similar form factors before Apple released the iPad or iPhone, as people have pointed out before me.


RE: Abusing the patent system
By redbone75 on 8/3/2011 11:40:32 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
At any rate, smartphones and tablets had been out for years in very similar form factors before Apple released the iPad or iPhone, as people have pointed out before me.

Agreed. People seem to forget the LG Prada and many of HTC's own designs before Apple even released the iPhone. It is indisputable that the design of slate style smartphones was trending towards a front dominated by a large screen with minimal buttons. It's ludicrous to believe Apple has the right to do the same thing everyone else was doing and then try to prevent them from continue doing the same thing.


RE: Abusing the patent system
By Dirk88 on 8/1/11, Rating: 0
RE: Abusing the patent system
By Mudhen6 on 8/1/2011 9:03:47 PM , Rating: 3
Looks like you don't know wtf you're talking about.

quote:
Who says that the whole screen needs to be touch responsive? If Samdung made the screen go to the edge, it could still allow the user to grab the device. Heck, the user could decide how much of the screen is touch sensitive. That would be better than Apple, and wow, it would actually give the Phandroidboi more to fiddle with, which is what they seem to like. They could make the bezel aluminum instead of black. Gee, do I really need to come up with this stuff?


Firstly, its not a matter of "creativity," but function. It doesn't matter how stupidly you can misspell "Samdung."

Secondly, websites are designed to be viewed on rectangular screens, with the elements of the user interface (e.g. the Address Bar, Search, Back, Forward, Reload, etc.) placed either on the top or bottom borders of the screen. Implementing "dead zones" on an edge-to-edge tablet screen to functionally replace the bezel will not work because the browser UI elements will either fall within the dead zone or they'd be free-floating an inch from the tablet's border (meaning that users will have to scroll around these elements anyway, defeating edge-to-edge).

The point is, it's absolutely retarded that Apple's patent for the iPad (a rectangular-shaped thing with a 1-in black bezel) is actually being enforced.


RE: Abusing the patent system
By Tony Swash on 8/2/2011 6:33:20 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The bezel is approximately the same size for functional reasons. You can't have a touchscreen, edge-to-edge tablet - how would you hold the device without confusing the touch sensors?

In the same vein, you cannot simply halve the width of the bezel; you must design the width of the bezel to account for the size of the average human hand.

Apple fanbois seem to lack the intellect to understand that the designs/specs of devices tend to converge because of use and function, not because everyone is copying each other. For example, the previous suggestion to make a "round" tablet is laughable. There are not enough downvotes in the internet to describe how idiotic that idea is.


Have you read the list of patents that Apple claims Samsung has infringed?

As fas I can see they don't mention the bezel or any other physical characteristic of the device, all the infringed patents relate to the touch interface and when Apple launched the iPhone and iOS back 2007 they did say at the time they had taken out 200 plus patents and those patents would be defended.

These are the Australian patents Apple alleges Samsung infringed:

Standard Patents
- 2008201540: List scrolling and document translation, scaling, and rotation on a touch-screen display
- 2005246219: Multipoint touchscreen
- 2007283771: Portable electronic device for photo management
- 2009200366: List scrolling and document translation, scaling, and rotation on a touch-screen display
- 2007286532: Touch screen device, method and graphical user interface for determining commands by applying heuristics

Innovation Patents
- 2008100283: List scrolling and document translation, scaling, and rotation on a touch-screen display
- 2008100372: Electronic device for photo management
- 2009100820: Unlocking a device by performing gestures on an unlock image
- 2008100419: Unlocking a device by performing gestures on an unlock image
- 2008101171: Portable electronic device for imaged-based browsing of contacts


RE: Abusing the patent system
By Mudhen6 on 8/2/2011 7:31:15 AM , Rating: 2
I was responding to Dirk88, who said something to the effect of "Serves Samdung right, even the bezel is the same in the Galaxy, why can't they halve it, blah blah..."


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