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Leaf price increases by thousands for 2012  (Source: Nissan)
Prices go up significantly for Leaf

Of all the green cars on the road today, the two that get the most attention tend to be the pure electric Nissan Leaf and the Chevy Volt, which is classified as a plug-in hybrid. The two cars are selling well and it looks like the price will be increasing for the 2012 model year on both of the vehicles.

Nissan has announced that the price on the Leaf will go up significantly in both base trim and SL trim for 2012. The base Leaf will see its price rise from $32,780 to $35,180. The SL will see an even larger price increase going from $33,720 to $37,250. Nissan also announced that it would up the lease price of the Leaf slightly to $369 monthly from $349 monthly for the 2011 model year.

Brian Carolin, senior vice president, sales and marketing for Nissan North America said, "Many enthusiastic consumers have eagerly anticipated ordering a Nissan Leaf of their own, and now we can make zero-emissions mobility a reality in more markets." He also noted, " In response to direct feedback from Nissan Leaf owners, the features that customers want most will come standard on the 2012 Nissan Leaf — including quick charging and cold-weather features."

The quick charge feature allows the Leaf to be hooked to a 480v charger. That allows the Leaf to recharge in 30-minutes from a dead battery to 80% capacity. The cold weather gear includes a battery heater, heated seats, and a heated steering wheel.

GM is also offering pricing details on its 2012 Volt. The base Volt for 2012 will have a price of $39,995 including the $850 destination charge. In 2011, the Volt started at $41,000. The Volt with navigation and Bose sound is rising in price by $990 compared to 2011 models.

In June, GM reports that it sold 2,745 Volts while Nissan reports selling 4,400 Leaf EVs.

Nissan is also already putting thought into what to do with Leaf batteries when the cars reach the end of their usable life.

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RE: In Other Words
By Reclaimer77 on 7/20/2011 7:09:16 PM , Rating: 2
I just don't see how they can justify these price hikes on such a gimmick item in a down economy. Especially given it's poor sales to date. Around 4k units? That's just terrible. They need to realize they do NOT have a winner here, and price hikes will only make it worst.

Nissan should just accept that they are going to have to sell these at a loss for a few years until they get enough market saturation to start making a profit. Honda and Toyota understood this with the hybrids when that technology was in it's fledgeling years.

Of course, there are the subsidies, but I think we've covered that enough and everyone knows where I stand on that.

RE: In Other Words
By Reclaimer77 on 7/20/2011 7:16:48 PM , Rating: 2
By the way, isn't it freaking awesome that despite Chevy's massive PR campaign and all the billions of taxpayer dollars, the golden child Volt is being outsold almost 2 to 1 to the all-electric Leaf? Just, lol.

RE: In Other Words
By Alexvrb on 7/20/2011 8:59:12 PM , Rating: 3
The Leaf has a pretty good advertising presence, too, and it's cheaper - even after this price hike. But both manufacturers say that supply is holding sales back more than anything at this point. The pure electric should be easier to produce once they ramp up. The Volt is a complex beast to build and will probably have a harder time ramping up.

RE: In Other Words
By theapparition on 7/21/2011 8:17:23 AM , Rating: 2
Just, lol.

Not really.

GM sells every single Volt that they make right now. Plus there is a backlog of customers that ensures they've sold ever single one for over the next year. GM is ramping up production, but right now is very comfortable where they stand.

As for the Volt itself, it truely is a nice car. Not my cup of tea, by any means, but a very nice car that's quite fun to drive. My only disappointment was when they changed the styling to ho-hum everyday commuter car and didn't have the balls to keep with the original prototype.

RE: In Other Words
By tng on 7/21/2011 12:06:05 PM , Rating: 2
Plus there is a backlog of customers that ensures they've sold ever single one for over the next year.
After the backlog is pushed out the door what next? GM has been very slow in bringing up production this year. Next year they are supposed to make more than double what they made this year and they will fill all of the pre-orders. Will the sales continue to rise?

didn't have the balls to keep with the original prototype.
They never do. Seems that making an attractive car (like most prototypes) is against the rules somehow. Yeah the original was good looking, they made the production version look just short of Blah.

RE: In Other Words
By Masospaghetti on 7/21/2011 12:41:08 PM , Rating: 2
The prototype was more aerodynamic going backward and forward. Its proportions made it obvious it wasn't a practical vehicle.

Maybe the production version doesn't look like the concept, but the Volt still makes the Leaf and Prius look like Fischer price toys.

RE: In Other Words
By theapparition on 7/21/2011 3:25:23 PM , Rating: 2
After the backlog is pushed out the door what next? Will the sales continue to rise?

Let me consult the magic 8 ball........

They never do

Camaro arrived pretty much unchanged from the prototypes. I had hope the Volt would be similar.

RE: In Other Words
By Reclaimer77 on 7/21/2011 3:27:57 PM , Rating: 2
I think you're missing the point. It sailed right over your head.

RE: In Other Words
By Masospaghetti on 7/21/2011 12:38:50 PM , Rating: 2
GM has purposefully made initial production slow as a quality improvement. They are building as many Volts as they said they would before production started and have a backlog of orders for every one they are going to build in the near future.

Your disdain for the Volt is baffling. It's a product of complete technological superiority, produced here in the States. It's nice to be on the cutting edge for once, and I'm glad GM isn't just producing pushrod 3100's and 4-speed automatics.

RE: In Other Words
By tng on 7/22/2011 10:53:46 AM , Rating: 2
Your disdain for the Volt is baffling.
No it is just that after having driven hundreds of GM products, I realize that you can't trust them, there is a reason why they needed to be bailed out.

RE: In Other Words
By p05esto on 7/22/2011 9:15:08 AM , Rating: 2
All I know is that IF you are an American and you buy ANY other brnad of car besides American (Ford, Chevy, Dodge, etc etc) then you are a no-good traitor and need to be deported to whatever country you bought the car from. We have very few choices in the product world where there is an American alternative, ALWAYS buy American if you are American. End of story, anything you counter with is irrelevant. Don't be a moron, keep your country alive!

RE: In Other Words
By tng on 7/22/2011 10:57:52 AM , Rating: 2
If you buy American just because it is American and not the best you can buy, then you are just a part of the problem why Corporations like GM continue to produce junk, after all people like you will buy it.

I am all for buying US made, but I will not buy crap because it is US made over something that is better and made somewhere else.

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