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Concession would make fuel economy standards easier for large trucks  (Source: Dodge)
Concession would reduce the yearly increase rate for new standards for large trucks and SUVs to 3.5% per year

The Obama administration wants to significantly increase the CAFE standards that govern fleet wide fuel economy for automakers. The problem is that there is a huge amount of backlash from those in the automotive industry. The backlash is so far keeping the Obama administration and automakers from coming to an agreement on proposed fuel economy standards moving into the future.

The Obama administration has put a concession forward in an effort to woo the Big 3 automakers to agree to the economy standards. The concession would see the makers of big trucks and SUVs forced to move to the higher fuel economy standards at a much slower rate than makers of cars and light SUVs. Hopes are high that the agreement between the Obama administration and the Big 3 will be made by early next week. 

Washington wants the CAFE requirements to be set at 56 mpg by 2025. The concession would allow the Big 3 to adopt the CAFE standards for the larger, gas guzzling vehicles, at a rate of 3.5% per year rather than the 5% annual improvement rate that the Obama administration wants for light trucks, cars, and light SUVs.

CAFE standards are currently targeting 35.5 mpg fleet wide by 2016 and that number will grow to 56 mpg by 2025 under the proposed regulations. The final rules are hoped to be ready by September.

However, automakers outside the Big 3 are not happy at all about the proposed concession. Carmakers that do not produce large SUVs and trucks see the concessions as giving the Big 3 an unfair advantage. The companies feel that the concession would encourage consumers to buy less efficient vehicles. 



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RE: I see SUVs selling very well
By FITCamaro on 7/15/2011 2:44:03 PM , Rating: 1
Yeah it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that people like to buy large SUVs when they can afford them. Even today they're still selling. Perhaps not as well as before but still well. Some are just starting to choose slightly smaller crossovers like the Chevy Equinox which gets 32 mpg. The trade off is that its useless for doing any real work or towing.


RE: I see SUVs selling very well
By Flunk on 7/15/2011 3:06:47 PM , Rating: 3
All Crossovers are worthless for towing. A crossover is a car shaped like a truck. As a result they're basically big heavy cars, which are lousy for towing.

My point here is that they're not for real work or towing. They're for hauling families and their associated junk around.

Also, you're idea that people always buy the biggest gas-guzzeliest thing they can afford is a crass generalization. A lot of people enjoy driving smaller vehicles.


RE: I see SUVs selling very well
By Keeir on 7/15/2011 7:26:48 PM , Rating: 2
People like to buy the best they can afford.

Even with "small" cars, people often spring for things like V6 engines or turbos, that make those small cars not much more efficient.

For example, people buy many more V6 Fusions and MKZs than Hybrid models.... even though over 50,000 miles, the V6s already cost more and over 100,000+ cost A LOT more.

Consider that even at its peak, Hybrid + Diesel + Electric accounted for no more than 3.5% of the entire car market. A market where the average transaction price is ~30,000+.

This is Fit's point. Not that people buy the largest car or the gas guzzliest car. People buy the best they can afford... which is usually not the same as the most efficient.


RE: I see SUVs selling very well
By AssBall on 7/15/2011 3:09:54 PM , Rating: 2
My first new vehicle is a truck, and my next vehicle will also be a truck. When I can't buy a Ram, Tundra, F150, or Seirra anymore in this country I'm moving to Canada or Australia.


RE: I see SUVs selling very well
By Flunk on 7/15/2011 3:19:34 PM , Rating: 1
Thanks for being such a stereotype.


RE: I see SUVs selling very well
By Camikazi on 7/15/2011 4:24:42 PM , Rating: 2
You realize you don't know what they do for work right? Maybe they need a truck for work, like towing, or moving heavy items or things like that? You are too quick to think that everyone who owns a truck has one just because and not cause they need one for what they do for a living.


RE: I see SUVs selling very well
By gixser on 7/15/2011 3:34:18 PM , Rating: 2
As an Australian, what makes you think we will take you?

quote:
I'm moving to Canada or Australia.


RE: I see SUVs selling very well
By AssBall on 7/16/2011 12:11:59 AM , Rating: 2
My skills and willingness to contribute to an effective economy do.


RE: I see SUVs selling very well
By croc on 7/18/2011 3:47:48 AM , Rating: 2
"My first new vehicle is a truck, and my next vehicle will also be a truck. When I can't buy a Ram, Tundra, F150, or Seirra anymore in this country I'm moving to Canada or Australia."

Can't talk to Canada, but you'd be hard pressed to find any of the vehicles mentioned down here in Aus... I do know a person with an F350, cost him quite a bit more that 100K to get it here, certified, modified, etc., and it costs him well over $250 / week in fuel costs... $1.27 to $1.65 per litre, depending on grade...


RE: I see SUVs selling very well
By Spuke on 7/15/2011 7:01:48 PM , Rating: 2
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Yeah it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that people like to buy large SUVs when they can afford them.
See this is what I find so misleading. Large SUV sales have NEVER even broken into the top 20 in the US. I think the Yukon hit number 22 once or twice. Large SUV's are a niche market like sports cars yet some people seem to think they're everywhere and everyone in the US is driving one. Let's move past this BS. What IS selling by the buttloads is pickups (mostly 1/2 tons). Well over 100,000 pickups are sold every month! Granted, a lot of those go to fleets but if "you people" are going to crap on Americans loving gas guzzlers, at least be accurate about it.

The following is auto sales in the US. There is a bit of shake up because there are TONS more US cars in the top 10 than in the past 20 years but that's probably due to supply issues in Japan.

http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3022-autos...


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