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Samsung may pay as much as $10 per Android handset sold to Microsoft, in order to protect itself against Apple.  (Source: Cell Phone Blog)
Licensing fee could give Samsung extra legal ammo against Apple

Microsoft (MSFT) and South Korea's Samsung Electronics (SEO:005930) are reportedly engrossed in intense intellectual property licensing negotiations.  The talks bring to mind the old adage "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."

While Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 platform competes with Android, both platforms share a common enemy -- Apple, Inc. (AAPL).  As Apple tries to fend off Android, it has turned to multiple lawsuits, first suing [1][2] Taiwan's HTC Corp. (TPE:2498) (the top Android phone maker at the time) and then suing Samsung (currently the top Android phone maker).

As both Samsung and HTC are also WP7 handset makers, it behooves Microsoft on multiple levels to defend these quasi-rivals.  To that end, Microsoft entered into a patent licensing agreement with HTC last year.  HTC agreed to give Microsoft a fee for every Android handset sold.  In exchange it received the use of Microsoft's IP, which has proved a useful shield to hold back Apple's legal harassment.

Samsung, which has a sizable IP catalog of its own, may opt for a similar deal.  The current sticking point is the licensing fee.  Microsoft wants $15 USD per Android handset sold.  Samsung, reportedly, is willing to agree to around $10 USD per handset.

If the pair can reach an agreement, Samsung could use its new resources to further defend itself against Apple in court.  That would be good news for U.S. customers, who could lose access to Samsung's Android lineup if Apple succeeds in blocking imports from the Asian gadget maker.

Samsung will soon become the world's largest phone maker, passing Microsoft's Finnish ally, Nokia Oyj. (HEL:NOK1V).  The company is expected by analysts to have sold 3 million units of the Galaxy S II since its late April debut, helping propel the company to total estimated sales of 19 million units in calendar Q2 2011.

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RE: Who's suing whom?
By macdevdude on 7/6/2011 12:51:32 PM , Rating: -1
But Android does look an awful like iOS at first glance, as it's admittedly a copy.

Exactly, Google has admitted this before. Microsoft too. They're both copying iOS.

It wouldn't surprise me if Apple eventually sues Google and Microsoft for making knockoff operating systems. Obviously that would be a big case, so it's probably just taking some time to prepare.

The only company Apple is suing that MAY be directly linked to Android is HTC, and there's no guarantee that their deal with MS will affect that. It seems that Apple is being sued by more companies than it is suing. Motorola is suing them, and they are an Android manufacturer, so maybe they are a stalking horse for Google, who knows.

True, and don't forget Apple was the first to design a modern smart phone and holds patents on both the technology and design. HTC, Samsung, etc. have landed themself in trouble by making cheap, blatant knockoffs.

RE: Who's suing whom?
By cjohnson2136 on 7/6/2011 1:03:13 PM , Rating: 2
Microsoft too

What of Microsoft's looks like iOS, And don't say WP7 cause it looks nothing like iOS.

RE: Who's suing whom?
By Digimonkey on 7/6/2011 1:03:59 PM , Rating: 2
Because screens of icons is such a revolutionary step. WP7 also looks nothing like iOS.

RE: Who's suing whom?
By Mitch101 on 7/6/2011 4:55:16 PM , Rating: 2
Where Apple got the idea for the interface for the iPhone.

RE: Who's suing whom?
By michael2k on 7/7/2011 12:45:33 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, and it got it's inspiration from the original Mac in 1984, which had drawn it's inspiration from the Lisa, which had drawn it's inspiration from the Star.

Don't forget that in the intervening years Apple also had NeXT (which invented the Dock) and Newton (which invented the PDA) to draw on, too.

RE: Who's suing whom?
By Smilin on 7/6/2011 1:14:26 PM , Rating: 4
Exactly, Google has admitted this before. Microsoft too. They're both copying iOS.

It wouldn't surprise me if Apple eventually sues Google and Microsoft for making knockoff operating systems.

iOS is *nix based, steals the interface from Windows 3.1, and the multitouch from the Prada. You realize the entire computing industry copies each other right?

Obviously that would be a big case, so it's probably just taking some time to prepare.

A comedian who hasn't stolen from Richard Prior at some point probably isn't funny.
A mobile phone maker who hasn't licensed or stolen from Motorolla and Nokia probably can't connect to any networks.

Microsoft has been making operating systems for almost 35 years and has filed a bajillion patents (IBM was the only that had more I believe). The reason Apple hasn't sued them is because they would get their butt handed to them in court.

"taking some time to prepare". Oh man that was a good one. I didn't do a true LOL but there was indeed an audible chuckle.

RE: Who's suing whom?
By Tony Swash on 7/6/11, Rating: -1
RE: Who's suing whom?
By Smilin on 7/12/2011 3:05:19 PM , Rating: 1
Tell me about it. Heck it pulls down my average just doing a reply to you.

Tony Swash has posted a total of 969 comments at DailyTech, the average comment rating was 0.63.

RE: Who's suing whom?
By vaelyan on 7/6/2011 7:49:27 PM , Rating: 1
I love it when the iApple fanbois get all upset about people copying stuff from the almighty apple when back in the 70s apple commited the exact same "crime" that all the fanbois are whining about. If Jobs and his boys hadn't taken a tour of Xerox's PARC they wouldn't have had the idea to start working on the Lisa and later the almighty Mac. They're all so quick to point out how similar Android is to iOS although they would probably never admit that Apple has done the exact same thing and that all tech companies do it. Of course the fanbois would have to stop whining long enough to read a bit of history first.

Apple has very few inventions to their credit(that they truely invented, not bought the company that did the inventing), most of what they do is improve upon existing technology. The mouse and GUI weren't originally their ideas, however they do deserve credit for bringing them to the masses. The first computer I ever used with a GUI was a Mac Classic. My favorite computer of all time was my Commodore 64.

Apple is extremely annoying with all their damn lawsuits, however they are mostly just posturing and ways of acquiring patent agreements. I absolutely HATE apple as a company, however I do like their products. The only apple product I own and use is my Apple TV. I admit I'm a PC and don't use OSX at all. Apple products look good and are well made. I don't like iOS anymore since I started using Andriod, I like the ability to customize Android and I like using widgets on my screen.

"We shipped it on Saturday. Then on Sunday, we rested." -- Steve Jobs on the iPad launch

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