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  (Source: Stuart Isett/The New York Times )
Amazon says these sales taxes are "unconstitutional and counterproductive"

Amazon has fully committed itself to its effort against the collection of sales taxes, and it continues to prove this dedication over and over as it cuts ties with state after state.

After cutting ties with states like Texas, where Texas State Comptroller Susan Combs charged Amazon $269 million in unpaid sales taxes, and Illinois, where Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) plans to introduce a bill that would force Amazon to collect sales tax called the Main Street Fairness Act, Amazon is now looking to turn its back on California as well after Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill that would enforce the collection of online sales tax. 

"We oppose this bill because it is unconstitutional and counterproductive," said Amazon in an e-mail to Californian affiliates. "It is supported by big-box retailers, most of which are based outside California, that seek to harm the affiliate advertising programs of their competitors. As a result, we will terminate contracts with all California residents that are participants in the Amazon Associates Program as of the date (if any) that the California law becomes effective."

Amazon also noted that these sales taxes "spur job and income losses." But Amazon has to do what it feels it should do, and with this bill in place, Amazon won't think twice about cutting ties with its 10,000 California-based sales affiliates.

Amazon is the largest online retailer with more than 90 million registered buyers and $34 billion in annual sales. In recent times, it has encountered increased pressure from certain U.S. states to collect online sales taxes since the retailer's affiliates operate within those states. In addition, some U.S. states see an online sales tax on Amazon purchases as a way of digging themselves out of large state budget deficits. 

But Amazon refuses to back down. Last month, Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos said the U.S. states' demands were unconstitutional, citing a 1992 Supreme Court decision that excuses Amazon and other remote sellers from having to collect taxes in U.S. states that do not have the company's employees or warehouses operating within its borders. 

As of right now, Amazon collects taxes in Kansas, Kentucky, New York, North Dakota and Washington. In other U.S. states where Amazon does not collect sales taxes, customers are to document and pay tax on out-of-state untaxed sales, but rarely do because they either don't know about this or just don't care.

Brick-and-mortar stores like Best Buy and Wal-Mart retaliated saying that Amazon has an unfair advantage due to its lack of sales tax collection in other states.



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RE: As always...
By Dr of crap on 6/30/2011 12:35:24 PM , Rating: 4
MAYBE the states, mine included, should cut spending!
Radical idea, I know. If my family were short that much money we'd SPEND LESS, not look for a hand out from our neighbors.

I just find the wastefull spending that just keeps going on ridiculious, and needs to be stopped. And before you post it let me say that I'd take less help from our state if the spending were reduced. Thing is I and MY FAMILY DON'T relie on state money to survive, like some do.

I applaud Amazon for doing this.


RE: As always...
By Adonlude on 6/30/2011 2:10:48 PM , Rating: 2
How can we cut spending when we live in the entitlement society that we do? Everybody has their hand out begging for government freebies. Nobody that threatens the entitlements can get elected.


RE: As always...
By lagomorpha on 6/30/2011 3:11:51 PM , Rating: 4
Democracy isn't really sustainable in a society in which the education system has failed. We need to either find a way to force a quality education on everyone, limit voting rights to people with a reasonable grasp of math, science, and history, or give up on democracy.


RE: As always...
By geddarkstorm on 6/30/2011 3:31:26 PM , Rating: 5
It's not simply education, in the sense of factoids and raw knowledge, that's failed; it's morality and ethical foundations that are now lacking and killing our society.

And I don't mean high minded moralities/ethics, like don't drink alcohol, or wear these kind of clothes not these other kinds, etc. I'm talking about personal responsibility, compassion, consideration, patience, and a sense of the greater good instead of solely shortsighted, selfish ambition.

Welfare can be a type of compassion, but only if it is working right, where selfish people aren't feeding off of it without a care in the world; but instead using it as it was intended for temporary relief to allow job hunting and a return to productivity (that is, using it to help individuals for the greater good of society, not just their personal desires). It should be an emergency thing, not a life style, and certainly not a CULTURE as it's become in our society today. And this is part of why we're going down hill, rapidly.


RE: As always...
By lagomorpha on 6/30/2011 5:14:42 PM , Rating: 2
Well you could always tie some negative condition to receiving welfare in order to prevent it from being a self-sustaining culture. Mandatory contraception comes to mind.


RE: As always...
By kart17wins on 6/30/2011 7:41:36 PM , Rating: 2
I've always thought that a good negative condition would be that to collect welfare you have to sit with your kids in a cubicle lined warehouse for 8 hours a day (just like if you actually had a job) and do nothing. Nothing is allowed no tv, no radio, no reading material, no ipods etc. Nothing to do but listen to sniveling kids all day long.
I'll bet most people wouldn't be milking the system for long.
And for food stamps, you get bread, peanut butter and milk. We will not let you starve but we aren't going to let you buy a whatever junk you want either.


RE: As always...
By Alexvrb on 6/30/2011 10:05:00 PM , Rating: 2
They don't even use stamps anymore. They use EBT cards. A button pops up that says EBT just like the other buttons for Debit, Credit, etc. It's amazing just how much of the population is on some form of government aid.


RE: As always...
By Solandri on 7/1/2011 7:15:00 AM , Rating: 2
They're still abused. Well, I dunno if you can call it "abuse" since apparently it's completely legal to use them on non-essentials. As long as you don't turn around and try to sell what you buy.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/receipt.asp


RE: As always...
By Alexvrb on 7/2/2011 10:14:31 PM , Rating: 2
Oh I am more than aware of the abuse. I wasn't saying the cards helped. In fact they make abuse even easier - now it's completely painless. Nobody would even know except you and the cashier. I personally know cases of abuse, people who technically qualify for and abuse the program, even though they don't need it. I mean shoot, they have more money than I do, a newer car, etc.


RE: As always...
By MrBungle123 on 7/1/2011 10:51:13 AM , Rating: 2
Random drug testing for ANY social services... you fail no more food stamps, HUD house, WIC vouchers, etc... if you have money for weed you have money to support yourself.


RE: As always...
By ekv on 7/2/2011 1:15:24 PM , Rating: 2
negative conditions

1) wear a sign/placard

2) have name printed in newspaper (as being on welfare)

3) be shown on TV (during the regular Government Costs Exposed segment)


RE: As always...
By Mr772 on 7/1/2011 9:50:06 AM , Rating: 2
Check yourself man the United States is a REPUBLIC!!


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