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Microsoft officially takes Office to the cloud
Office 365 or Google Apps, which is right for you

Microsoft has been talking up its cloud software future and trying to compete with Google Docs for quite some time. Microsoft dominates in productivity software with its Office suite that is used by a huge number of general consumers and enterprise users. As more and more businesses migrate from buying expensive software each year to using a cloud-based service with continual updates for a monthly subscription, Microsoft wants its part of that market as well.

Steve Ballmer said early this month that Microsoft Office 365 would launch in June, and he stuck to his word. Office 365 is the cloud-based version of the productivity software and is available for small and mid-size businesses. The service is pay as you go and the official pricing has now been unveiled. Office 365 for professionals and small businesses starts at $6 monthly per user and offers email, calendar, contacts, a personal archive, and 25GB of mailbox storage with 35MB for attachments with Exchange online. 

It will allow the viewing and basic editing of documents using Office Web Apps as well as access and viewing of files from a mobile phone. The service also includes SharePoint Online to allow the design of a website, desktop Office to web versions. Other features include Lync Online for instant messaging, online meetings, and PC-to-PC online audio and video calls.

Enterprise firms can get the service starting at $10 per user per month up to $27 per user per month depending on the features wanted. The enterprise $10 plan appears to be the same as the small business plan. Starting at $16 monthly, users can create and edit documents using Office Web Apps with Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote. At $24 monthly, the user gets all the features of the other plans and Office Professional Plus access, SharePoint Online advanced capabilities, and unlimited Exchange Online mail storage. A $27 monthly plan adds Lync Server on-premises to the offering.

Microsoft also offers a $2 monthly basic email plan. The competing Gmail service from Google is free. 

“Great collaboration is critical to business growth, and because it’s so important, we believe the best collaboration technology should be available to everyone,” said Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer. “With a few clicks, Office 365 levels the playing field, giving small and midsize businesses powerful collaboration tools that have given big businesses an edge for years.”

While Microsoft is making its Office 365 pricing public and taking new orders for the Service, Google and its competing Google Apps service are talking about why Google Apps is better. Google says that Office 365 is for individuals, while Google Apps is for teams. Google also notes that Office 365 is built for Windows-based PCs and Google Apps is built to work on just about any platform. Google Apps is also one price for everyone at $5 monthly with one plan and it has no contract.

Analyst Michael Silver from Gartner said of Office 365, "It [Office 365] puts Microsoft in a better position than they were -- they now have a broad product that they can more easily sell."
Office software is Microsoft's most profitable offering making $3 billion in the last quarter. Microsoft has smaller profits planned for its cloud offerings and views it as an effort to grab a larger slice of a company's tech spending overall.



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RE: Umm
By Pirks on 6/30/2011 1:41:44 PM , Rating: 1
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For all intents and purposes, it is
No it is not. Acers and Apples are designed by totally different design departments, by designers with totally different approaches to design. Can't you see that?
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Different machines for different purposes
Ha, now you started to talk like an Apple tard. Now you suddenly rotated 180 degrees and oops - Mac is different machine now? Where did your rhetoric about Macs being "the same" go?
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There is nothing "magical" about the components that went into a Mac vs. what went into a PC
True, but my point is not magic, not at all. My point is that you always fail to address my points about real differences between expensive Macs and cheaper PCs, like the list I posted above. Not a single word from you about THAT. You started to babble your old shit about "magic". Screw magic, I don't care about it, I wanted to know your opinion on these facts and these real differences. Are you such a pussy to answer directly without resorting to your old "magic" argument? Why can't you talk about real things and always slip into this "magic" shit? What's wrong with you Moto?
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Every single one of your points about Apple's magical superiority
There is nothing magic, ABSOLUTELY nothing magic about the facts I stated above, it's all pure technical stuff, purely technical differences in build and design. Keep calling them "magic" and demonstrate how mentally deficient YOU are.
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There is no fundamental difference in the components in/quality of a Mac vs. a PC
Well, I never called those differences fundamental, in the first place. You did, so you are actually calling yourself mentally deficient. Man, where is your logic?
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recent history of Apple shows that if anything, Apple designs are the worst in the world
Unproven urban legend. Come on, get serious. I can say "recent history of MS shows that if anything, MS operating systems are the worst in the world", so what? You said, I said, blah blah... you don't want to talk serious and just wanna make baseless claims like a crying baby? Fine.
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No consumer electronics maker has a record nearly as bad as Apple
Here I could easily hit you with a couple of links posted here on DT by our famous Mick, about Apple topping quality surveys, consumer reports or at least if not topping but then staying close to the top. Can you retort properly if I do that? Without resorting to your favorite senseless baseless bashing "apple is soo evil and sooo baaadd boohooo" style?
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But feel free to hijack threads to press your Apple agenda time and time again, and repeatedly demonstrate your stupidity before the whole world
You think your hot empty words can prove anything? :))) So naive. I could blast you with all hot empty words too, but it's much more fun to watch you trying to retort my facts with your insane bubble about some "magic".


RE: Umm
By Motoman on 6/30/2011 5:09:34 PM , Rating: 1
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No it is not. Acers and Apples are designed by totally different design departments, by designers with totally different approaches to design. Can't you see that?


Nope. Because you're wrong. Sure, there's a hipster with a cappuccino who designed the specs on the Apple...the "whiteness" of it...etc. But the actual *work* done on, say, the motherboard and such is done by the people at the ODM. Like, Foxconn.

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Ha, now you started to talk like an Apple tard. Now you suddenly rotated 180 degrees and oops - Mac is different machine now? Where did your rhetoric about Macs being "the same" go?


Wrong again. I have no idea what models of what you were trying to compare...and knowing you, you were trying to compare a DTR model to an Air or something just to try to bolster your lies.

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True, but my point is not magic, not at all. My point is that you always fail to address my points about real differences between expensive Macs and cheaper PCs, like the list I posted above. Not a single word from you about THAT.


Already did. You ignored it. As always. There is nothing about a Mac at the same spec level as a PC to justify any difference in price. Nothing. You have made no points. As always. You have attempted to twist my words, misdirect, and obfuscate. As always. Then you stick your fingers in your ears and declare that I haven't addressed your points. Because you're retarded.

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There is nothing magic, ABSOLUTELY nothing magic about the facts I stated above, it's all pure technical stuff, purely technical differences in build and design. Keep calling them "magic" and demonstrate how mentally deficient YOU are.


Several problems here. First, you have stated no facts. Second, there is no "techincal stuff" that is different. In fact, it is precisely the "technical stuff" that is the SAME. Only the aesthetic design is any different...not anything of any importance that would make anything better about the "build" or the "design."

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Well, I never called those differences fundamental, in the first place. You did, so you are actually calling yourself mentally deficient. Man, where is your logic?


So because I used a word you can't pronounce, you think I'm mentally deficient? Or somehow being illogical? You are, in fact, trying to argue that there is something *fundamentally* "better" about Macs. That is EXACTLY what you are doing. And now you've apparently demonstrated that you simply don't even know what the word "fundamental" means.

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Unproven urban legend.


No it isn't. The internet is covered in the information about how abysmally poor Apple's track record is. It's not unproven...although typically, probably urban - and definitely LEGENDARY. The piss-poor quality, design, and dependability of Apple products is indeed the stuff of legend. And that is an indisputable fact. You pretending, like Jobs himself, that nothing bad has ever happened does nothing but underline your own mental illness.

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Here I could easily hit you with a couple of links posted here on DT by our famous Mick, about Apple topping quality surveys, consumer reports or at least if not topping but then staying close to the top. Can you retort properly if I do that? Without resorting to your favorite senseless baseless bashing "apple is soo evil and sooo baaadd boohooo" style?


Yes. Apple does not compete on the merits of it's products...including their reliability. They compete on the fact that they're Apple, and you're not. Apple consumers will report that they are ecstatically happy with their Apple products regardless of whether or not they blow up, fail immediately, can't be used in the sun, or whatever. If Apple products immediately killed every member of your family once opening the box, they'd still have 100% customer satisfaction ratings. Marketing propaganda. In the same way that Bose and Monster Cable consumers are convinced that they've bought the best stuff in the world, the same is true of Apple consumers. Reality has nothing to do with it.

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You think your hot empty words can prove anything? :))) So naive. I could blast you with all hot empty words too, but it's much more fun to watch you trying to retort my facts with your insane bubble about some "magic".


My words may be hot, but they're certainly not empty. Your head is though. I have never presented anything but unassailable facts - which you simply ignore, then rant away about something else...constantly ignoring the facts while attempting to move to some other topic, or to simply re-assert some failed concept you've failed with a million times before. Not a single point you've attempted to make has been a fact. Not one. Every single item has been false, and your attempts to twist my words to try to show I've said something false don't work either.

...and, as I have noted many times before, here standing neck-deep in your own failure...dripping with the shame you've heaped upon yourself by demonstrating the depth of your mental illness yet again, you declare "victory." You have failed utterly. Completely without a single point on your scoreboard. And you think you've won.

You're sick. Mentally ill. You are in dire need of medical assistance.


RE: Umm
By Pirks on 7/4/2011 10:46:30 AM , Rating: 2
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You are, in fact, trying to argue that there is something *fundamentally* "better" about Macs. That is EXACTLY what you are doing.
You are a liar, these differences are not fundamental. I never said that they are fundamental. Keep lying, Moto, it's all you can do now.
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there is no "techincal stuff" that is different
Liar, the differences like the smartly designed cooling system that does not struggle when you put your laptop on a soft surface, are purely technical. You can't live without lying every second, you're a pathological liar.
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There is nothing about a Mac at the same spec level as a PC to justify any difference in price.
Liar. I told you many times about MacBooks being lighter/thinner/more battery efficient/better larger touchpad/no stupid stickers/no stupid malware. You keep ignoring that and pretend all these facts I stated do no exist. Pathological mentally ill liar you are, sir.
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But the actual *work* done on, say, the motherboard and such is done by the people at the ODM. Like, Foxconn.
So you're saying the engine design team makes all the difference about a car, right? And the guys who are responsible for ergonomic aspects of the car do not matter? Like if internals of the car are the same V8 everywhere then cars are exactly the same even though the interior ergonomics are vastly different? You are dumb then. Really dumb, pathological, Apple hating irrational liar.


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