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Tesla Roadster

Tesla Model S
The EV sports car is no more

The car that changed the way most of us think about electric vehicles was the Tesla Roadster. The car has a nice driving range that made it usable in the real world for many drivers and had serious performance making the car appealing to enthusiasts. It also just so happens to be a quite attractive car.

However, production of the Roadster is finally coming to an end. The Roadster may be going away, but Tesla isn’t leaving the performance EV world. The Roadster is retiring so that the new and cheaper Model S can be the central focus of the company. The Model S is certainly not in the same league as the Roadster and it will be sad to see the Roadster go.

Tesla's Khobi Brooklyn said in an emailed statement to FastCompany, "The Roadster accomplished everything we asked of it--it served as a catalyst for the EV industry, and it has allowed us to refine electric technology for future, and more affordable EVs. The Roadster proved that EVs can outperform traditional combustion vehicles while producing zero emissions."

The Model S is a larger four-door car that is nowhere near as performance-oriented as the Roadster was. The Model S seats four comfortably and will come in three trim levels at roughly $50,000, $60,000, and $70,000 after rebates.

Tesla is expecting the more practical Model S to sell in much higher volumes than the narrowly-focused Roadster. There were only 1,650 of the Tesla Roadsters ever sold globally as of the end of April 2011.

But don’t shed any tears for the Roadster just yet, Tesla has a follow up car up in the works. Brooklyn said, "The Roadster will always be the cornerstone of Tesla, and we look forward to bringing back a version of the supercar that takes full advantage of our advanced electric powertrain in the next several years."



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RE: Performance EV World?
By Reclaimer77 on 6/25/2011 1:54:55 AM , Rating: 1
I think Top Gear pretty much exposed the vaunted "performance" advantage of the Tesla. The motors overheat after 2 laps or you only get a 55 mile range per charge when "performance" driven. That's terrible efficiency. Absolutely flogging an ICE will still get you far more mileage on a single tank. The car is also way too heavy for it's size, and combined with the low rolling resistance tires, handles like an utter PIG.


RE: Performance EV World?
By flyingpants1 on 6/25/2011 6:13:16 AM , Rating: 1
Yeah, that top gear episode was a lie. Nice try..


RE: Performance EV World?
By BZDTemp on 6/25/2011 11:00:04 AM , Rating: 2
How was it a lie?

It seems clear that if you drive the Tesla as sports car and not as a Prius then there is a major issue - range. And that the problem means using the "sports car" for a spirited ride or a track day is problematic at best.

Tell me how going a ride for fun while having to worry about the range limit is not a major issue? Or how it's not an issue going to a track day only having to spend most of it in a pit garage charging the batteries?

Of course there is an upside with regards to the track day issue. Usually one brings extra brake pads and wonder if new tires will be needed in the end of the day - neither is an issue when you gonna spend most of the day watching other people drive while sitting in the pit.


RE: Performance EV World?
By SPOOFE on 6/27/2011 12:10:38 AM , Rating: 2
I love driving through the Santa Monica mountains or the Los Padres Nat'l Forest (can't do much up in Angeles; fires destroyed a lot of roads a couple years ago and there's no budget to fix); I can only imagine the nightmare of Supercar's batteries going dead when I'm twenty miles away from cell phone reception. And then it starts to snow... :(


RE: Performance EV World?
By Reclaimer77 on 6/25/2011 11:13:15 AM , Rating: 2
A lie? How do you figure? I'm well aware of Tesla's pathetic lawsuit, that's just sour grapes. Top Gear's job isn't to educate the public about the Tesla or give it good PR, it's to evaluate cars in a performance oriented fashion with some humor and entertainment thrown in. Tesla's argument's are absurd. Of course you can get the 211 mile range is you drive it like a hypermiler. Top Gear was TRACK RACING the car. It's not a "lie" to say they got 55 miles from a charge in those conditions. Again, their job isn't to hype a product and be 100% positive.

Tesla also says they "lied" about the brakes failing. Look, a major brake component DID fail. And while technically that would still leave the driver with some working brakes, they were much less effective. I don't think that's a good thing to have happen.

The review was actually more positive than not. It's a shame that Tesla is so engrossed with it's PR mentality that it cannot accept someone pointing out the realities of EV technology. And feels they have to sue to silence critics, even when they mostly lavish praise on the car. I applaud BBC for refusing to bow down and take the episode down. We simply cannot allow corporations to bully media and entertainment artists by suppressing opposing views and facts.


RE: Performance EV World?
By Reclaimer77 on 6/25/2011 11:32:37 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/04/top-gear-resp...


This is Top Gear's side of the story and lawsuit. It all looks pretty reasonable and on the level to me. Granted I'm not a TV producer or executive, but I find it hard to argue with such a logical and factual presentation of the realities of TV show production.

For every point of contention that Tesla is making, Top Gear has a factual, logical, and VERIFIABLE counter point. I'm not sure about British law, but to me, this seems like a slam dunk. Tesla will lose and lose badly.


RE: Performance EV World?
By Chernobyl68 on 6/27/2011 5:48:58 PM , Rating: 2
Staging of scenes to make the car look less capable...like the 3 guys pushing it back to the garage, when it never actually ran out of charge. the 55 mile number was a calculated range, not an actual distance driven. If all you are going to do is drive it on a track, why are they bothering with range anyway? They seemed happy with the acceleration, speed, and handling.


RE: Performance EV World?
By EricMartello on 6/28/2011 6:56:51 AM , Rating: 1
They TEST the car on the track to evaluate its performance. It DID run out of a charge while they were testing, but they had two cars. It is no secret that the amps drawn by an electric motor increase exponentially under load, so unless you drive it like a granny you're going to get terrible range.

EVs are a not a solution to anything and the morons that believe the propaganda and paid-for PR that has been keeping idiot VC cash flowing into Tesla's coffers deserve the turd they'll end up with.

Even the Plymouth turbine car was more practical than anything Tesla ever produced...in fact, if I were Nikola Tesla I'd be rolling over in my grave knowing that my name is being dragged through the mud like it is being associated with that fail car "marketing company".


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