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Toyota Prius v

Toyota Prius c Concept
Toyota prepares its 40 mpg "family" hatchback

We first brought you news of the production version of the Prius v, a larger variant of the popular Prius, back in January. The Prius v is the latest effort by Toyota to expand its hybrid reach and make the Prius nameplate its best selling model in the United States (that honor currently goes to the Camry). 

Ed Larocque, Toyota's Marketing Manager of Advanced Technology, has confirmed that the 5-seat hatchback will go on sale in October of this year. The Prius v was supposed to go on sale this summer, but the earthquake that hit Japan in March altered Toyota's production schedule. 

Toyota hopes that it will find 30,000 buyers a year in the U.S. for its new Prius v, which shouldn't be too hard a target to hit. Toyota sold 140,928 Prii in 2010 alone. 

The larger body of the Prius v allows it to have more cargo room than its sibling (34.3 cu ft behind the rear seats versus 21.6 cu ft). Toyota says that this better use of space will make the vehicle a better fit for young families who don't want to step up to a mammoth minivan or crossover.

Unfortunately, maximum seating capacity for the Prius v is an un-minivan-like five. Toyota offers a seven-seat variant of the Prius v in Japan which is made possible because the Japanese market vehicle uses a smaller, lighter lithium-ion battery pack which is located between the front seats. In an effort to keep costs in check for the U.S. market, Toyota decided to use an older style nickel-metal hydride battery pack which is located in the cargo area, robbing space for the third-row seat. 

Another downside is that the Prius v uses the same powertrain as the standard Prius, yet it is over 200 pounds heavier. That means that 60 mph comes up in a leisurely 11.5 seconds. The added weight and inferior aerodynamic design mean that the Prius v can "only" muster 40 mpg combined compared to 50 mpg combined for the Prius.

Pricing has not yet been announced, but it expect the Prius v to be priced a few thousand more than a comparably equipped Prius.

The Prius family will grow yet again this time next year with the 50+ mpg subcompact Prius c.



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RE: Drawbacks
By Reclaimer77 on 6/23/2011 4:05:33 PM , Rating: 2
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I commend Fox News along with Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, et al, for bringing us the polarized state we find the country in today.


That's an absolutely intellectually bankrupt argument. It's so ignorant it's almost offensive. Yes, blame a few people on one side for an entire country being "polarized".

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but the fact that a documentary on Fox News' bias called Outfoxed was released in 2004 really shows how great this channel is and for how long it has been glorious.


Oh well in that case, I guess I give up. We all know if it's in a documentary, it must be true. Just like all those Michael Moore flicks.


RE: Drawbacks
By YashBudini on 6/23/2011 4:41:45 PM , Rating: 2
Michael Moore (blithering idiot) never proclaimed to be far and balanced. Fahrenheit 911 was interesting for the few minutes it spent on those who didn't get to vote in Florida, after that it foamed at the mouth for 2 hours.

The thing about Out-Foxed is you can eliminate all the scenes and commentary from the biased creators, listen only to the newsclips of Fox itself, and clearly see Fox is anything but fair and balanced. That's where the creators of Out-Foxed failed miserably, they simply should have allowed the clips to speak for themselves. "Some people say...." is not a valid journalistic technique.

Part of the current problem also stems from even before Fox was created, the early years of cable news. I had seen many instances of "debates" degrading into shouting matches, constant interruptions, personal insults. What few signs of behaving like an adult disappeared. Like chivalry, adult conversation and disagreement is now an event so rare it leaves its witnessess in awe. Of course that comes as no surprise, especially here. Click on Motoman's comments and check out the 5's he gets. How many are nothing more than simply out-mouthing or out-flaming his opponent? No facts, no discussion, few if any arguments, he simply out-shouts whomever questions him. Winning through intimidation has been raised to a religion. So much to be proud of. Not really.

Why has so much communication degraded to such a large extent over a short period of time? Anonymity via the Internet is one major reason for viewer behavior.


RE: Drawbacks
By Iaiken on 6/23/2011 5:28:31 PM , Rating: 2
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"Some people say...."


This is is my absolute favorite Fox technique...

They say it all the time to insert unattributed conservative opinion into discussion, to frame statements or load questions.

I love it even more when it blows up in their face and they are asked "Who is saying that?" In most of those cases where they have been taken to task for it, they simply move on.

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No facts, no discussion, few if any arguments, he simply out-shouts whomever questions him.


Motoman is O'reilly... O'reilly is Motoman...

More than anything, I love to see these bullies get owned by their hubris. When Donahue shut down O'reilly and called him out for what he really was on public television was a thing of beauty. My other favorites are when he can't win on the merit of his arguments so he huffs and he puffs and kicks them off the show. Way to be a good sport champ!


RE: Drawbacks
By YashBudini on 6/23/2011 6:03:43 PM , Rating: 2
Everything is a matter of perspective. Let's say moderate lefty news is about 10 AM, fair and balanced is noon, and to the right is to the right. Now suppose the viewer is at 2PM. Not much to watch is there? So along comes Fox at 4 or even 5 PM. If your perspective is 2PM then fair and balanced at 4PM is closer to it than 10AM. It seems like it's leaning less to you based on where you're coming from.

The sad part is nobody is really looking for fair and balanced, probably one of the main reasons it's not delivered, especially on TV, it's simply lacks zest or juice.

But to readily accept the constant spoon feeding of "fair and balanced" it must be restated relentlessly. The success of the technique of that statement is historical. Repeat something often enough and people will start to believe it. I Googled "Repeat a lie often enough". It's commonly misattributed to Joseph Goebbels.

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A lie told often enough becomes truth

Vladimir Lenin.

Though OJ didn't have much success with it. He probably quit too soon.


RE: Drawbacks
By Reclaimer77 on 6/23/2011 6:40:34 PM , Rating: 2
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This is is my absolute favorite Fox technique...


I call BS. There's no way you actually watch Fox enough to tell us you've seen this "technique". You're just repeating what you've heard from other lib lapdogs and critics of Fox. EVERYONE does that. Post statistics that Fox does it more than anyone else, or your argument is just subjective tripe.

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When Donahue...


That Liberal Democrat who's claim to fame is that he was a daytime Jerry Springer wannabee? Yeah man, he sure showed O'reilly who's boss.

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My other favorites are when he can't win on the merit of his arguments so he huffs and he puffs and kicks them off the show. Way to be a good sport champ!


You can't win with a lot of Liberals because they cannot admit, or even recognize, when their entire belief system is wrong and has failed.

Besides, again, this is no worst than Olberman's segment when he would proclaim someone to be (usually a Republican) the "Worst Person in the World" or some such egomaniac narcissistic garbage.

Also, AGAIN, O'reilly isn't doing the NEWS! It's an OPINION show on Fox. Not part of a Fox News segment.

Again you guys just aren't making a solid case that Fox is less balanced or even as balanced as the other networks. All I'm hearing here is "Fox is terrible because it's not Liberal".


RE: Drawbacks
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 6/23/2011 6:54:33 PM , Rating: 1
I just don't buy the belief that liberals are inherently wrong and that conservatives are inherently right.

It is this sort of foolishness (from both sides) that is tearing this country apart. Once people get it through their thick skulls that both sides have viable positions/points, the political system will be better for it. Right now, there is just too much venom being spewed.


RE: Drawbacks
By Reclaimer77 on 6/23/2011 7:09:18 PM , Rating: 2
Umm no, the country is being torn apart because at some point a party decided to slowly transform this once-great nation into a socialist oligarchy. It started with the "New Deal" and has been gaining speed ever since.

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Once people get it through their thick skulls that both sides have viable positions


Enlighten me. What viable Liberal position on something is there? I honestly can't think of one.

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I just don't buy the belief that liberals are inherently wrong and that conservatives are inherently right.


Well, I think that's sad. Liberalism, by it's very definition, is diametrically opposite to the way this country was founded and the beliefs that are instilled in the majority of it's citizens. How that can be "inherently right", I have no idea. It can't. Higher taxes, bigger government, less freedoms. These are not "good" things Brandon.


RE: Drawbacks
By YashBudini on 6/23/2011 8:40:06 PM , Rating: 2
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It is this sort of foolishness (from both sides) that is tearing this country apart.

You have to wonder if that's not the ultimate goal of the 2 parties, the old divide and conquer process.

By arguing with each other both political "parties" get to do whatever is in their interests, and that means the leaders of the party and the politicians, not the voters on either side.

If all people called for the BS to end the press would have to cover it and they would eventually have to face it. Supporting the argument of that the 2 parties only care about themselves is something that did not happen in 2008. The 3rd party runners did a phone survey and asked the people if they wanted to hear from the 3rd party candidates during the debates. 60% of the people responded yes, according to Ron Paul at the separate 3rd party debates televised on CSPAN. Why didn't the 3rd party candidates get a chance to debate? Because the "team" that determines who gets to debate nationally is composed of 1 democrat and 1 republican.

1 coin, 2 sides, same sh!t.


RE: Drawbacks
By muIIet on 6/24/2011 12:56:35 AM , Rating: 2
You will never get compromise when you have 2 parties that have totally opposite ideologies, especially in a crisis like we are in.

Liberals want to tax and spend their way out of it.
Republicans want to cut taxes and cut spending.
Liberals want to take care of you from cradle to grave.
Republicans want you to be responsible and take care of yourself.
Liberals want everyone to buy hybrids, solar panels and windmills, save the frogs and trees.
Republicans want the market to determine what types of cars are made and when.
Liberals have a rally for their party and all they do is leave a mess and wet beds they sleep in.
Republicans have a rally and it's cleaner then when they showed up and they never wet beds.

Bottom line is, if you want the government to take care of you and tell you how to raise your kids and tell you what to do then be a liberal .

Bottom line is, if you are responsible, have integrity, pride, self reliance, don't want a nanny state, don't want to be a bleeding heart bed wetting liberal by all means be a REPUBLICAN .

and if your tired of Brandon Hill wearing sweater vest and bow ties speak out!!!


RE: Drawbacks
By Norseman4 on 6/26/2011 5:27:33 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with most that you have said, but since you use Liberal instead of Democrat, you must use Conservative instead of Republican.

There are centrists in each party. (Lieberman / McCain are just two examples, IMO, maybe Bush, but I think he was left-of-center, as strange as that may sound)

And I know (or at least highly suspect) that the last Republican (Conservative) point is at least partially wrong. (ie. bedwetters)

IMHO:
Republican = Daddy state (Do what I say or else. Authoritarian, with the stick.)
Democrat = "Can we just all get along?" (Rodney King, I salute you with this quote. Appeasers, everyone is equal, no competition is allowed.)
[L]iberal = Mommy state (Do what I say and I'll give you stuff. Authoritarian, with the carrot.)
[C]onservative = My rights stop where your rights begin, and no one has the right to not be offended.
Libertarian = The Constitution (capital 'C') lists all of the Federal government. Period.

For the record, I am a conservative Libertarian. If there were more elected conservatives, I think this country would be better, but I'd really love a lot more Libertarians in office.


RE: Drawbacks
By Norseman4 on 6/26/2011 5:33:39 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with most that you have said, but since you use Liberal instead of Democrat, you must use Conservative instead of Republican.

There are centrists in each party. (Lieberman / McCain are just two examples, IMO, maybe Bush, but I think he was left-of-center, as strange as that may sound)

And I know (or at least highly suspect) that the last Republican (Conservative) point is at least partially wrong. (ie. bedwetters)

IMHO:
Republican = Daddy state (Do what I say or else. Authoritarian, with the stick.)
Democrat = "Can we just all get along?" (Rodney King, I salute you with this quote. Appeasers, everyone is equal, no competition is allowed.)
[L]iberal = Mommy state (Do what I say and I'll give you stuff. Authoritarian, with the carrot.)
[C]onservative = My rights stop where your rights begin, and no one has the right to not be offended.
Libertarian = The Constitution (capital 'C') lists all of the Federal government. Period.

For the record, I am a conservative Libertarian. If there were more elected conservatives, I think this country would be better, but I'd really love a lot more Libertarians in office.


RE: Drawbacks
By Reclaimer77 on 6/23/2011 6:19:56 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know why you think you needed a Motoman attack thrown in there to make your point. You have been fixated a lot with him lately, and it's coming off kinda petty. You can't preach about chivalry and adult conversation one second, then slam someone behind his back just because you don't agree with his views the next.

This is growing tiring. Liberals just hate Fox, that's all this boils down to. They are the only ones I see making disparaging comments toward them. And not ONCE in this entire thread have one of you admitted the hypocrisy of slamming Fox when other networks do the same thing, if not worst.


RE: Drawbacks
By YashBudini on 6/23/2011 8:21:01 PM , Rating: 2
Motoman quotes:

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You are, in fact, a waste of space. Meaning that literally the world would be better off if the space you occupied were simply empty space. Take your moronic non-ideas and non-arguments and shove them some place else.

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Go crawl back under your rock. You're getting your stupid all over the internet.

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You're apparently retarded.

If I'm "petty" then what is he?

He's made himself a solid example of my subject matter. That's not my doing. I'm only the messenger.

Also this is a public thread/forum, how is this "behind his back?" And I never addressed his views, I addressed how he addresses others, and only that. I couldn't care less about his views, which is why I didn't quote any.

On this thread
http://www.dailytech.com/Apples+New+Back+to+School...
The other commentator(s) had to throw their hands up in the air and sound retreat (aka Mission Accomplished!):

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You are dealing with one of the most irrational, out of touch anti-fanboys I've seen on any message board. Deal with him like you'd deal with an angry 4 year old, have a laugh, and move on.

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And not ONCE in this entire thread have one of you admitted the hypocrisy of slamming Fox when other networks do the same thing, if not worst.

1. 2 wrongs don't make a right.
2. Of all the stations mentioned how many claim "fair and balanced?"

While I do agree that Fox is a neccessary evil I don't see the reason they have to be all Machiavelli about it:
http://www.aeriagloris.com/UnrestrictedWarfare/The...


RE: Drawbacks
By cruisin3style on 6/23/2011 6:59:29 PM , Rating: 2
Absolutely, no documentary can be true because of Michael Moore's pitiful a$$.

Listen to the other commenter, clips from Fox News speak for themselves on occasion.


RE: Drawbacks
By YashBudini on 6/24/2011 4:47:00 PM , Rating: 2
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Absolutely, no documentary can be true because of Michael Moore's plentiful a$$.

Fixed it for you, I mean we're talking Jennifer Lopez big, in need of multiple zip codes.


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