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Jim Redner explains what led to the tweet that got him fired from 2K Games

"Duke Nukem" fans waited nearly two decades for the follow up to "Duke Nukem 3D," which was released in 1996. Now that its successor, "Duke Nukem Forever," is finally here, many are wishing it would go back where it came from and stay there.

Such negative reviews did not sit well with the Redner Group, which is a video game PR company founded by Jim Redner in April 2009. Until recently, 2K Games was a client of the Redner Group, and the PR company was responsible for promoting and marketing "Duke Nukem Forever." But after Redner read a particularly nasty review of the game, he used Twitter to vent his frustration and 2K Games fired the Redner Group.

"Too many went too far with their reviews...we r reviewing who gets games next time and who doesn't based on today's venom," said Redner's tweet.

This comment stirred the journalistic community, who saw Redner's tweet as a threat that whoever gives 2K Games' titles a bad review will be blacklisted from receiving video games for review in the future.

Now, Redner has appeared as a guest columnist on to give a lengthy explanation of why he said what he said, and to clarify a few points. He described the particular review as being hateful and negative instead of fair, which led him to write the tweet.

"Opinions are never wrong," said Redner. "Reviews, when backed by fact, are always correct regardless of the score. The reviewer's story was downright mean spirited. It's as if the reviewer had a grudge and finally found an outlet to unleash his hostile brand of negativity. The review goes so far as to disparage the people who poured thousands of irreplaceable hours of their life, spent absent from families and loved ones, into the creation of this game."

While he did say that his actions were inappropriate and that he overreacted, Redner also defended his act by saying it was done out of an "act of passion." He explained that he was particularly tired and frustrated that evening, and made a rash decision to vent on Twitter where 15 million people can see what he says.

"It was a brain fart of epic proportions that registered on the social media Richter scale," said Redner.

"First and foremost, I do not support the McCarthy era notion of blacklisting. My tweet was not some social media form of the Waldorf Statement. I never used the word blacklist in my tweet. The term appeared in a story on I said that there were some reviews that had gone too far and that I was going to re-evaluate our reviews process (it was just one review and it wasn't even the lowest scored review). I have already apologized for my blunder and I will not do so again."

Redner went on to describe what it took to promote "Duke Nukem Forever," such as traveling from writer to writer to spread the word, hunting for clips, sending copies of the game to reviewers and meeting all client needs.

"'Duke Nukem Forever' was a labor of love for me,'" said Redner.

Redner also described the selection process when mailing copies of the game to writers. He noted that publishers do not have to send copies of games to reviewers. They have the right to select who they want to send it to just like writers have the right to write any review they please. He mentioned that the selection process is based on past coverage, past dealings and personal information gathered from certain writers, like their likes and dislikes as far as gaming goes. This selection process was not "blacklisting" certain writers, as other reports have pointed out.

"It is my job to generate consumer awareness and excitement through positive media attention in order to drive sales," said Redner. "I had handpicked certain key editors that I felt would enjoy the game for what it is. I based my selections on previous coverage and personal conversations. It is a selection process. The idea was to generate the highest possible cumulative scores for the game at launch."

Overall, Redner believes a particular review (which remains unnamed by Redner) had gone too far in regards to the poor review given to "Duke Nukem Forever." He believes writers can write poor reviews, but not to the extent of the anonymous review he speaks of. He mentioned that he still respects the honest and fair journalists he has worked with over the years, and wishes he had gone about this a different way.

"In hindsight, what I should have done was contact that writer directly and had an adult conversation about the issue, as I have done in the past," said Redner. 

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RE: Who cares?
By Manch on 6/22/2011 3:12:06 PM , Rating: 2
I read a lot of the reviews, and a lot of them seem to be a little unfair, and their were a couple that were just attacks on the game. I understand the mans fustration. He knows what he said, and he knows he shouldnt have said it the way he did. He says as much. He lost his client over it which has to hurt his pockets. As far as I'm concerned it's beating a dead horse that was rendered using the Quake 4 engine :P

I like the game. Granted it's dated, and doesnt look that great, but I think it's funny and I'm enjoying the nostalgia of it all. My only wish was that they released it at a reduced price. I think at $30, the reviews may have been more positive and they would sell a lot more. I do hope they bring out a totally new game for Duke tho. I'm sure they will since they paid good money for the rights.

RE: Who cares?
By B-Unit on 6/22/2011 3:46:43 PM , Rating: 1
Exactly. I read several reviews in the hours leading up to release, and couldn't believe the vitriol spewed out. Harping for entire paragraphs about how 'juvenile' the jokes were, and ranting about how 'wrong' it is to be able to pick up and throw a turd, even tho the whole time you do it Duke complains about what a sick f**k you are for making him do that.

The only silver lining was learning that after all these years, the consoles finally got a shitty port of a decent PC game! S*ck it down!!

RE: Who cares?
By Aikouka on 6/22/2011 4:20:11 PM , Rating: 2
That reminds me of when I was reading reviews for the movie "Kick-Ass" and I came across Ebert's review (I usually read his). It didn't take long for me to realize that his entire review for the movie focused around the fact that the movie had an 11 year-old girl swearing and killing people and how that was morally wrong. All I could think about was, "Okay... so is the movie fun to watch?" I ignored his review, saw the movie anyway, and had a good time.

His review may have been good for some if they agreed with his stance that such things in the movie were morally reprehensible, but I found it in bad taste. I stopped reading Ebert's reviews after that.

RE: Who cares?
By kattanna on 6/22/2011 4:50:31 PM , Rating: 2
yeah i remember all the fuss about the little girl and just recently watched it, and i have to say, if she wasnt in it like she was it wouldnt have been nearly as good.

same with this game. its a GAME.. its not life LOL

RE: Who cares?
By bety on 6/22/2011 5:45:39 PM , Rating: 2
"His review may have been good for some..."

Fine, by your own admission he made it clear what his complaint about the movie was. Just because you don't think it was an issue doesn't mean it was in "bad taste". He thought the movie was in bad taste! You disagreed. That doesn't make his review bad.

RE: Who cares?
By Aikouka on 6/23/2011 11:52:15 AM , Rating: 2
Typically when someone pulls a quote out and leaves off the rest of the sentence, they begin to read things out of context. Which... is exactly what you did. Let me explain that sentence a bit more as I guess the intent wasn't clear.

When I read Ebert's review, my only thought was, "Okay... there's a little girl that swears and kills people, but what about the rest of the movie?" He essentially went on a moral tirade about a single character that he found morally reprehensible and ignored any other aspect of the film. How was the music... the cinematography... the (other) characters? His review wasn't a review... it was a rant. A review needs a sense of objectivity to be effective.

I was looking around Rotten Tomatoes the other day, and I noticed that a new Winnie the Pooh movie was coming out and had a few reviews already. Curiosity got the better of me, and I looked at it regardless of my interest in the movie :P. There was a negative review for the movie that was along the same lines as the Ebert review where the reviewer essentially stated that he never liked the Pooh stories, and that he hates this movie too. How is that review helpful at all?

RE: Who cares?
By Reclaimer77 on 6/22/2011 6:40:06 PM , Rating: 1
Ebert? People still listen to that fat paid-off fuck?

He lost all credibility as a reviewer when he gave the Star Wars prequels such glowing reviews. The writing, dialogue, plot and cinematography of those movies were pure SHIT. He was clearly paid off, no self respecting movie reviewer could possibly see so much good in those movies.

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