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Ford C-Max Hybrid

Ford Focus Electric
Ford will not bring 7-passenger C-max to U.S.

The move is on to more fuel-efficient power trains for vehicles of all sorts. New, smaller and more efficient engines aren't only coming to compact cars; they are also coming to larger full size trucks and other vehicles. Ford is one of the manufacturers at the forefront of the tech push to make all of its vehicle models more efficient.

One of the most popular and interesting of the fuel-efficient vehicles is the Ford F-150 truck with the EcoBoost V6 engine option. A very significant number of those trucks are being sold with this powertrain. The impressive thing is that while the EcoBoost is more efficient, it also has similar power output as the V8 trucks offer.

Now Ford has announced that it will up the yearly production of hybrid and electric vehicles from 35,000 yearly to 100,000 yearly. Ford will focus on the five-passenger C-Max Hybrid and the all-electric Energi. This move will make the C-Max/Energi the only vehicles in the Ford fleet that aren’t offered in gasoline engine-only versions.

Jim Farley, Ford's vice president of marketing said, "The way we're executing our electric vehicles is a little different than other companies. We're not electrifying a certain vehicle and making a science project for a few people. We're electrifying our core (models)."

The increase in hybrid and electric vehicles also includes the current hybrids Ford offers like the Fusion, Lincoln MKZ, and the Escape SUV. Ford also recently announced that it would be making an increased investment into three plants in Michigan of $135 million and added 220 jobs to help build five new electric models by 2012.

The Detroit News reports about 170 of the 220 new jobs will be in the Rawsonville factory where the batteries for the EVs will be assembled.

In addition to the new C-Max and Energi, Ford will also add the all-electric Focus to the lineup next year. At this point, however, Ford is still not offering many details on the Focus electric with respect to how far the car will be able to drive on a single charge (100 miles would be a good guess). 



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By superstition on 6/10/2011 7:34:31 PM , Rating: 1
Americans are paying a $7500 (vehicle) + $2000 (garage charger) per vehicle tax subsidy to prop up the electric toy car "industry", while much more reasonable fuel-efficient clean diesel cars are readily available in other countries.

Maybe this is so we can also prop up the energy vampire known as ethanol?

Look at the very high MPG ratings of so many cars, most of which are not available here: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=319185

Even larger vehicles like the Passat are available with Bluemotion tech and get far better mileage than most small cars do here. There is something very very wrong with American fuel economy politics. (Note that Ford and GM are selling fuel-efficient diesels elsewhere, too...)




By superstition on 6/10/2011 7:39:10 PM , Rating: 1
I forgot to mention the absurdity of giving tax subsidies to electric and hybrid vehicles given the way the US chose to hand over the rare earths mining industry to China. Our mines are not operational and China has already threatened us with embargoes.

So, yeah -- let's force American tax-payers to subsidize batteries for these vehicles made with those rare earths from China. That makes so much sense! Meanwhile, our diesel fuel standard is substandard. Engine manufacturers say we should have a wear scar of no more than 460. All it would take is less than 2% biodiesel added to get us there. Our cetane standard is only 40. And, beyond the poor-quality fuel (and lack of inspections in most states), we have car policy that is crazy. Maybe electric vehicles make sense for people who live in large cities in areas that have no winter, but a lot of us don't.

Why not put some money into diesel-electric hybrids, if you really want the maximum in fuel efficiency?


By Philippine Mango on 6/10/2011 8:43:25 PM , Rating: 3
You seem to forget that clean diesels aren't popular with the united states or english government and for good reason.. A "clean diesel" car in the U.S is a tier 2 Bin 5 vehicle, the lowest emission standard currently allowed. Hybrids typically are PZEV now or tier 2 bin 3 and typically emit far fewer emissions in city driving than a diesel ever could thanks to the hybrid drivetrain. If you drive a Prius in London, you're not subjected to a congestion fee which says a lot about the shifting desires of various municipal governments.

Hybrids are great for city driving, no question about it, and considering a lot Americans are the type that do not like the M/T version of cars but the automatic, do everything for me while I fall asleep at the wheel but wake me up when I'm about to hit something, I'd say the Prius is a very suitable vehicle. Believe it or not, the majority of driving done by Americans is done at city speeds..


By StealthX32 on 6/10/2011 8:47:54 PM , Rating: 1
Diesel hybrids.

Did your mind just get blown?


By superstition on 6/11/2011 3:00:06 PM , Rating: 2
I know... I had already mention diesel hybrids. Those have the best of both worlds: city efficiency from the hybrid tech, and highway efficiency from the diesel.

America is a big place, and diesel makes a lot more sense.


By Spuke on 6/11/2011 12:21:28 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
do everything for me while I fall asleep at the wheel but wake me up when I'm about to hit something, I'd say the Prius is a very suitable vehicle.
I disagree, we're FAR too busy yapping on the cell phone to fall asleep.


By Bad-Karma on 6/13/2011 3:17:04 AM , Rating: 2
Did you know that if you're driving a Prius and you put your hand out the window it will turn.......


By drothgery on 6/11/2011 11:26:36 AM , Rating: 2
I'd note that said chart says nothing about whether or not those cars are capable of meeting US emissions standards or safety standards; very fuel efficient cars not available here routinely fail one or both of them.

Not that I think much of the tax incentives for electric cars or the ethanol mandate, subsidies, and tarrif on imported ethanol (none of which make any sense).


By superstition on 6/11/2011 3:04:23 PM , Rating: 1
Vehicles in the UK are equipped with the DPF (diesel particulate filter).

Furthermore, by being so fuel-efficient, they lead to lower emissions.

Diesel hybrids are likely to be even better in that respect.

Sites like greencar rank vehicles by their environmental impact, and these diesels do a lot better than so-called fuel-efficient small gasoline cars we have in the US. I also don't think coal from coal plants to power all-electric vehicles rate all that well, especially if you like fish that's not tainted with mercury.


By cruisin3style on 6/11/2011 2:35:48 PM , Rating: 2
Just keep in mind that that list says it is using Imperial MPG which is less than US MPG...but still impressive numbers.


By FishTankX on 6/12/2011 9:45:54 AM , Rating: 3
I'd like to point out that the prius gets 65MPG combined highway/city in the UK, due to the changes in measuring the gallon, and the different cycles they use to measure in contrast to the EPA's measuring methodology.

If you add an extra 20% (diesel contains 20% more energy than gasoline per gallon) you get a highly respectable 78MPG. That would get second place in the list you just linked to, while probably providing more space than the SKODA Fabia Estate listed at #1.

Not to mention releasing less particulates as well.

What i'm generally trying to say is, you can't directly compare European numbers and American numbers, because of different testing methodology. A Jetta TDI hits 67 on that list, but barley scrapes 35 here.


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