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Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter
Apparently Liang forgets the new stealth fighter China is showing off

The tensions in Asia over the growing might of the Chinese military are easy to see and understand. China is using its booming economy to fund the development of new weapons programs. China wants the world to believe that it is merely being sure it can defend the sovereignty of its nation while others fear that China will use the military might to take resources and possibly attack other nations in the area.

With tension growing, Chinese Defense Minister General Liang Guanglie said at the 10th Shangri-La Dialog in Singapore that the Peoples Liberation Army (PLA) is 20-years behind the U.S. Military. Guanglie said, "I would call the gap big. [The PLA] main battle equipment of our services ... is mainly second-generation weapons." He continued saying, "For example, the army is still being motorized, not mechanized."

Liang acknowledged that the modernization of the Chinese military has drawn attention and concern from around the world. Liang says that China has a right to protect is "core interests" such as protecting its sovereignty. Liang also explained at the conference that relations between the Chinese and U.S. military were improving. This year's Shangri-La dialog was in face the strongest turn out for the Chinese after years of ignoring the conference.

In addition to Liang there were a number of other Chinese officials at the conference including Rear Adm. Guan Youfei, deputy chief, Foreign Affairs Office, Ministry of National Defense; Senior Col. Ou Yangwei, director, Center for Defense Mobilization Studies, National Defense University; Major Gen. Song Dan, deputy director general, General Office, Central Military Commission; Lt. Gen. Wei Fenghe, deputy chief of general staff, PLA; and Xiao Jianguo, director, Department of Ocean Affairs, Ministry of Foreign Affairs. 

As much as Liang wants the world to believe China has a massive gap between its military and the U.S. military (and other armed forces of the world), the country is investing heavily in next-generation weapons. A the most high profile new weapons program is the Chinese J-20 stealth fighter. The J-20 completed its second flight in April and has been captured on video as it has been tested. Some speculate that China obtained the stealth technology that is used in the J-20 from a U.S. F-117 stealth fighter that was downed in 1999 in Serbia. China is known to have had agents crisscross the area where the fighter crashed buying up the wreckage from local farmers.

The Chinese military is also believed by many around the world to be carrying out very sophisticated and successful hacks against military and corporate networks. Many digital attacks have been traced back to parts of China where the government is known to have a strong military presence. The Gmail hack that was revealed earlier this month is believed to have been perpetrated by China, though Chinese officials have denied any involvement. China is also allegedly the source of the hacking attacks that compromised networks at Lockheed Martin using stolen RSA SecurID dongles. Those hacks are believed to have targeted Lockheed Martin military projects. 



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RE: Nothing to worry about here/so small
By Reclaimer77 on 6/8/2011 10:58:27 PM , Rating: 0
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I didn't realize reality was based on consensus


Ok well you know what? Now you know. You're welcome.

God you're a douche-bag. Do me a favor and google "communist russia", you'll see almost 19 million hits! Then go fuck yourself.


RE: Nothing to worry about here/so small
By dotpoz on 6/9/2011 4:26:13 AM , Rating: 2
If everbody say something it must be true, right ?
Also if it is on TV or on the interweb.......

By definition comunism is a social-economical theory elaborated by Marx and Engels. The URSS was a marxist-Leninist ditactorship. marxist-leninist comunism go towards a more centralized power.

I'ts true that we always called them comunist but it was't the comunism theorized by marx


RE: Nothing to worry about here/so small
By Reclaimer77 on 6/9/2011 2:41:56 PM , Rating: 1
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I'ts true that we always called them comunist


But when I use the term is needs to spark a huge debate? My, I'm honored.

So I guess when someone says "the sun came up" you then launch into a pointless diatribe about how the sun doesn't really come up, the Earth is just rotating to face it?

There are appropriate times to correct someone. Correcting someone for calling the USSR "Communist" on a discussion that's NOT about Communism is just a dick move.


RE: Nothing to worry about here/so small
By Gzus666 on 6/9/2011 3:22:20 PM , Rating: 2
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But when I use the term is needs to spark a huge debate? My, I'm honored.


Oh stop playing innocent. You know you said "communist" to incite an emotional response to try to have people agree with you. I took the wind out of that sail on purpose to piss you off as well as point to that fact that it was completely unnecessary to point out that China was "communist" (even though they aren't) for your argument.

You added it in to try to sway people to your way of thinking with fear and hate, it is the oldest manipulation trick in the book. You literally do this non-stop about every stupid thing you can, usually liberals or whatever other crap you decide to parrot that day as a manipulation tactic. Every time you get called out on it, you get super defensive and deflect the conversation into personal attacks or some other manipulation tactic you monkeys like to use other than logic, cause you fail miserably in that realm.


By Reclaimer77 on 6/9/2011 4:18:17 PM , Rating: 1
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You know you said "communist" to incite an emotional response to try to have people agree with you.


No, I absolutely did not. Truth, take it or leave it. As far as caring if people agree with me or not, I think you know better than that. If I cared about that, I think my posts would be a bit more neutral, don't ya think?

When I think Soviet Russia, I think Communists. It's as simple as that. And please, I'm HARDLY alone in that regard. Same goes for present day China.

quote:
You added it in to try to sway people to your way of thinking with fear and hate


... are you SERIOUSLY making this big of a deal over it? Yes, I was using "fear and hate" by pointing out that China black books a lot of their military spending. For that matter, so do we.

You are just projecting, that's all. You have always been very socialist leaning in your opinions, so I can see why you are taking this position. But it's obvious I hit a nerve and the voracity of your response is NOT in proportion to anything I said.

You are making too much of a deal about this and taking it way too personal. You can reply if you want, but I'm done with this.


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