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  (Source: Bright Side of the News)
Upcoming release should offer an alternative to Sandy Bridge, but will it perform?

Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (AMD) is sitting pretty with strong graphics card sales and better than expected sales of its lightweight, power efficient fusion CPU+GPU systems on a chip (SoC).  The company is now profitable after years in the red.

Looking to continue its success, AMD previewed [press release] "Scorpius" at the 2011 Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) at the Los Angeles Convention Center (LACC) in Los Angeles.  Scorpius is AMD's answer for the high-end gaming market.

The design will feature an octacore, unlocked Zambezi processor dubbed "FX", reviving AMD's old enthusiast CPU branding.  Zambezi, codenamed after a river in Africa, is AMD's high performance 32 nm SOI process upcoming desktop CPU based on the company's new Bulldozer architecture.

The new platform will also feature a Radeon 6xxx HD graphics card from AMD and an AMD 9-series chipset motherboard (socket AM3).

Leslie Sobon, AMD's vice president of worldwide product marketing, comments, "AMD’s FX brand will enable an over-the-top experience for PC enthusiasts. By combining an unlocked, native eight-core processor, the latest in chipset technology, and AMD’s latest graphics cards, FX customers will enjoy an unrivalled feature set and amazing control over their PC’s performance."

The obvious competitor of Scorpius will be Intel Corp.'s (INTCSandy Bridge, possibly paired with GeForce 5xx series GPUs from NVIDIA Corp. (NVDA).  With eight physical cores, Scorpius will arguably have the edge over single-socket Intel designs, though, which currently only feature four cores (eight threads).  Intel will bump its core count to six cores in the near future, but it remains to be seen whether that will be enough.

Performance numbers on Bulldozer are still lacking, so it remains to be seen exactly how powerful this octacore gaming rig will be.

One thing that may excite some is AMD's growing array of HD3D partners.  HD3D, AMD's proprietary 3D technology works fully with the company's EyeFinity firmware, which supports up to six displays driven by a single graphics card.

AMD claims over 400 current and upcoming titles support the 3D gaming tech, including, Eidos Montreal's upcoming "Deus Ex: Human Revolution", Bioware's "Dragon Age II", Creative Assembly's "SHOGUN 2: Total War", and Codemasters' "DiRT 3."

Regardless of who comes out on top performance wise, it's refreshing to see a reinvigorated AMD challenging both Intel and NVIDIA in the CPU and GPU sectors.  A competitive market should push all three PC hardware makers to quicken the release of powerful new hardware that will delight PC gamers and enthusiasts -- few as they may be, these days.



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Doesn't Make a lot of Sense
By BSMonitor on 6/7/2011 3:49:57 PM , Rating: -1
All top end Phenom II's be it x6 or x4 are 125W parts. So in making this an APU, they add 2 more CPU cores when very little takes advantage of 6 cores. Two more cores plus an ATI GPU all on the CPU die? Either these will be 140-150W monsters or be clocked incredibly lower than they should be. Regardless, K10 cores no matter how many cannot compete against the current Core i cores.

They should have invested in making K10 more efficient, not add more inefficient and/or power hungry cores.

Hopeful but skeptical. Not to mention in conjunction with a die shrink...




RE: Doesn't Make a lot of Sense
By 85 on 6/7/2011 3:51:57 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
All top end Phenom II's be it x6 or x4 are 125W parts. So in making this an APU, they add 2 more CPU cores when very little takes advantage of 6 cores. Two more cores plus an ATI GPU all on the CPU die? Either these will be 140-150W monsters or be clocked incredibly lower than they should be. Regardless, K10 cores no matter how many cannot compete against the current Core i cores.


um no... they are 32nm


RE: Doesn't Make a lot of Sense
By BSMonitor on 6/7/11, Rating: -1
By mufdvr3669 on 6/7/2011 6:12:31 PM , Rating: 4
He's talking about the new processors with the APU integrated. You know the ones you were talking about here.

"So in making this an APU, they add 2 more CPU cores when very little takes advantage of 6 cores. Two more cores plus an ATI GPU all on the CPU die? Either these will be 140-150W monsters or be clocked incredibly lower than they should be."

It even says in this article they are 32nm. 45nm is the old ones without the APU, 32nm is the new ones with the APU and 8 core or whatever they are coming out with.


By lamerz4391 on 6/7/2011 4:06:39 PM , Rating: 2
These are not the same cores in Phenom II. This is a new architecture. So it'll be 32nm already, and we don't yet know how power hungry Bulldozer is going to be. Seems like you are jumping to conclusions there, pal.


RE: Doesn't Make a lot of Sense
By Targon on 6/7/2011 4:44:20 PM , Rating: 2
You are distorting the facts here. AMD measures maximum power, and the current Phenom 2 processors are using a 40nm process. There is a good reason Llano was delayed, and that was the need for 32nm to keep the power/heat under control.

I expect the top end Bulldozer chips will be 125W parts, with most being 95W or lower. Still, that is a socket designation, not a pure "how much power does this chip draw". If a motherboard can support 125 watt chips, THAT is what is required. Intel markets things differently, which is why you never know if the new Intel chip you just bought will work in your old motherboard without doing some research.


RE: Doesn't Make a lot of Sense
By BSMonitor on 6/7/11, Rating: -1
By smitty3268 on 6/7/2011 10:54:10 PM , Rating: 2
This is not a Phenom II or a K10. It's a bulldozer core, which we know nothing about how efficient it will be.

Also, it's likely that when they say 8-core what they actually mean is 4 cores each with a duplicated integer pipeline in it. That's probably more like 6 cores in terms of power needed.

At this point, no one really knows what the final clock speeds, power usage, or performance of bulldozer will be like.


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