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Ford EcoBoost V6
High gas prices and a potent turbocharged engine drive V6 sales for Ford's best seller

What good is a big ‘old domestic full-size pickup truck without a V8 engine under the hood? Half-ton pickups and V8 engines go together like peanut butter and jelly or Smith & Wesson. But with gas prices putting the squeeze on many consumers, those who can actually afford to purchase brand new vehicles are trying to be more economical. 

We already reported in late April that Ford is seeing incredible demand for its new EcoBoost V6 engine in the Ford F-150. Reports pegged the EcoBoost V6 engine option as taking 36 percent of all F-150 sales.

However, that figure jumped to 41 percent for the month of May. In addition, the 3.7-liter V6 engine option captured 14 percent, bringing the total haul for V6 engines to over half of all F-150 sales for the month.

According to, the increasing interest in Ford's V6 engine options should come as no surprise given the current state of gas pries in the United States. However, the phenomena is still amazing when you consider that the take rate for V6 engines in competing Toyota Tundra and GMC Sierra/Chevrolet Silverado full size pickups is in the single-digit range.

Ford’s 3.7-liter V6 engine generates 300hp @ 6,500 rpm and 275 lb-ft of torque at 4,500 rpm. It is EPA rated at 17 mpg in the city and 23 mpg on the highway. The popular EcoBoost V6 makes 365hp @ 5,000 rpm and 420 lb-ft of torque at a low 2,500 rpm. It has EPA ratings of 16/22. 

Both engines run on regular unleaded gasoline, which is a plus with high gasoline prices.

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RE: Give rising prices another 5 years...
By shaidorsai on 6/2/2011 12:19:05 PM , Rating: 2
Because we don't want to. If you were able to afford the registration and fuel for a 400hp V8 Mustang you wouldn't be asking silly questions. The incredibly slow to accelerate 4 cyl diesel is about the worst vehicle to drive possible and only seems "ok" when everyone else is also moving so slowly. America neither wants nor needs slow cars. Im sure there are people that will be on here saying they would love a 4 cyl diesel car regardless of how slow it goes...they also don't get why everyone flips them off when they do 60 in the left lane of the interstate.

RE: Give rising prices another 5 years...
By jabber on 6/2/2011 12:24:41 PM , Rating: 1
But they are not slow. You are just following the age of propaganda your car dealers have been spouting for years, like the 3000 mile oil change (research courtesy of Jiffy Lube Inc).

Ever driven in Europe? We dont all crawl around at 20mph or use horse drawn carts.

Really you have nothing to fear, its the future cos gas isnt going to ever go back to $2 a gallon.

RE: Give rising prices another 5 years...
By mindless1 on 6/2/2011 2:49:22 PM , Rating: 1
Need it be mentioned that Americans prefer larger vehicles? Pretty simple really, put a bigger engine in a bigger vehicle, though AFAIK, American emissions standards are higher making diesels less powerful too in addition to the disparity between diesel pumps and gas pumps at the filling stations.

As I mentioned in another post, you are pushing your engine harder to drive like that versus a larger more powerful engine. That wear takes its tool over time, not everyone wants to replace their vehicle every 4 years nor have more repairs and creaky rattly looser handling.

RE: Give rising prices another 5 years...
By Maximalist on 6/2/2011 5:55:40 PM , Rating: 4
FACT: diesel engines have more longevity than comparable petrol engines. Lower RPM, operating temperature, and larger tolerances are some factors. Best marine engines are diesel too. The average marine gasoline engine runs for 1,500 hours before needing a major overhaul. The average marine diesel engine will run for more than 3x that at an average 5,000 hours under the same conditions. Automotive engines' life expectancy is roughly twice as long.

RE: Give rising prices another 5 years...
By mindless1 on 6/4/2011 5:11:58 AM , Rating: 2
FACT: The average gasoline engine in a modern car lasts for the life of the vehicle. The car is totaled or suffers some other kind of costly repair that causes it to be junked or parted out before then.

There is an exception, which is if someone buys an undersized engine and then has to continually push it at greater operating stress to get the same job done.

On the other hand, I am not against diesel engines, but I won't own a car with one because in the US I don't want to be restricted to hunting for and using only the one pump at each local gas station. If in the future stations put in triple or more diesel pumps, I'd have no problem with owning a diesel.

RE: Give rising prices another 5 years...
By Maximalist on 6/7/2011 2:34:04 AM , Rating: 2
It is true that an engine nevermind the type lasts as long as the average vehicle. By your own admission, whether you drive an "underpowered" vehicle or not, the engine longevity is not an issue, nobody on average would need to overhaul their engine every 4 years.

The other point about scarcity of diesel fueling stations is outdated. I recommend going to Shell (just one major diesel retail chain in the U.S.) and "locate" nearby diesel stations within a 5 mile radius from your home or office. I bet you will be surprised to see many more stations than you ever imagined. And it is just from Shell. There are others too. No need to hunt anything unless you drive seriously outside metro areas where I have little experience, but imagine that agri, heating, other uses would actually make diesel fuel more available, not less.

And do not mind a single diesel pump... hardly ever it has a queue in the U.S.

By mindless1 on 6/14/2011 2:03:55 PM , Rating: 2
^ Untrue, these days modernized gas stations have the diesel integrated into one of the pumps that does gas too so you will wait on people getting gas not diesel.

Engine longevity is an issue if it uses an undersized engine.

The point is easy to understand, in America gas vehicles are more convenient unless driving a large truck where you need to go to a truck stop to refuel.

As unbelievable as it seems, LOTS of people care more about other factors than whether a car has a diesel engine and aren't going to be limited in what they can buy just to get one... in fact, almost every product I buy, has efficiency VERY VERY low on the list of important factors.

RE: Give rising prices another 5 years...
By Dr of crap on 6/2/2011 12:35:30 PM , Rating: 2
While I agree with your ability to buy whatever car you want, I've seen plenty of "sport cars" driven so slowly on the entrance ramp, my 2.2 liter 4cyl can beat them onto the freeway.

It's not the car that's slow, it's the driver.
I can't stand people that can't merge onto the freeway properly! That being AT SPEED!

There are plenty of Mustangs being driven way to slowly for their own good.

RE: Give rising prices another 5 years...
By mindless1 on 6/2/2011 2:44:55 PM , Rating: 1
It's not a matter of how fast a car "can" accelerate, it's that you're ragging it out if you're always asking high(er) RPMS to get the same job done, as well as more stress on a suspension/etc if the car wasn't built for sustained use at that performance level.

People want a car with RESERVE power, not something that barely gets the job done, though I'm not implying a midsized or smaller vehicle needs in excess of 200HP.

RE: Give rising prices another 5 years...
By jabber on 6/2/11, Rating: -1
By Spuke on 6/2/2011 6:19:13 PM , Rating: 3
But things will change. As mentioned you'll be largely 4 cylinder bound within 10 years. Enjoy it while you can. The last hurrah.
I, and it seems most Americans, don't have a problem with cylinder count, we just want some power. Non issue with today's 4's. I hate to bring up facts but if you look at actual US cars sales, you'll see that most Americans have been driving 4 cylinder cars for decades now. Americans typically go for lower optioned vehicles and 4 cylinders make up the bulk of those vehicles. Add some power to them like they're doing today and even V6's getting supplanted.

RE: Give rising prices another 5 years...
By lagomorpha on 6/2/2011 1:28:45 PM , Rating: 2
Cummins makes a 4 cylinder version of their wonderful B Series turbo-diesels that have found their way into Dodge 2500/3500 trucks. The 4 cylinder version has similar performance characteristics to Mercedes' V6 turbodiesels that are in Dodge/Mercedes Sprinter vans which seem to have no trouble keeping up with traffic.

Should Dodge decide to start selling 1/2 ton trucks with a 4 cylinder Cummins B series turbodiesel from the factory I predict you'll see more excitement than complaints.

RE: Give rising prices another 5 years...
By Spuke on 6/2/2011 3:23:40 PM , Rating: 1
Should Dodge decide to start selling 1/2 ton trucks with a 4 cylinder Cummins B series turbodiesel from the factory I predict you'll see more excitement than complaints.
NOPE!! The manufacturers already have diesels engines ready for 1/2 tons and exactly NONE of them are 4 cylinders. The market crash shelved the engines but they're ready to go. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE would buy a 4 cyl diesel in a 1/2 ton truck in the US. Do I really need to explain why?

RE: Give rising prices another 5 years...
By YashBudini on 6/2/2011 7:25:32 PM , Rating: 2
NO ONE and I mean NO ONE would buy a 4 cyl diesel in a 1/2 ton truck in the US. Do I really need to explain why?

Yes, that's just the way it is, but also, seems like a good reason to have such a vehicle reviewed in some magazines, no?

By lagomorpha on 6/4/2011 12:28:41 PM , Rating: 2
It should probably be noted that the 4 cylinder Cummins 4BT is a 4 liter 4 cylinder turbo-diesel with 355 ft-lbs of torque and there are already people using it to replace gasoline engines in trucks in order to improve fuel economy.

There's nothing stopping a 4 cylinder diesel from producing enough torque to pull a large truck - just look at some Caterpillar has made. Other than the vehicle sounding like a tractor that is.

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