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Erebus gaming desktop  (Source: iBuyPower)
Gaming rig is packed with goodies

Boutique computer maker iBuyPower has announced the latest addition to its gaming desktop line. The new computer is called the Erebus and it is highly customizable with a variety of options for RAM, processor, and storage among other things.

The entry-level machine starts at $1,249, and has an Intel Core i5-2400 processor and a liquid cooling system inside. It also features 4GB of RAM, GTX 550Ti graphics, 500GB of storage, and Windows 7 Home Premium. The Erebus line gets much more expensive from that starting point, as most customizable gaming machines are prone to do.

The high end Erebus-V3 gaming desktop has an Intel Core i7-990X Extreme processor, a custom liquid cooling system with six 120mm fans. The mainboard is a liquid cooled Rampage III extreme from Asus and the PC has 12GB of RAM. Graphics is via a trio of GTX 580 Superclocked video cards. The rig also has dual 96GB SSDs for storage and a 2TB HDD for main storage. Rounding out the features is a Blu-ray drive. That high-end machine starts at $6,899.

“After two years of hard work and we are proud to unveil this ground breaking system.” said Darren Su, Executive Vice President of iBUYPOWER.  “Erebus’ custom built liquid cooling system will allow gamers to push the overclocking envelope, delivering unparalleled performance and creating the ultimate gaming experience.”
 

Erebus system are available now.



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By DEVGRU on 5/18/2011 2:04:20 PM , Rating: 2
LMAO, right? A liquid cooling system... on a base/entry PC? What a joke.

Anybody with a clue that would actually USE the potential of liquid cooling wouldn't be buying some OEM POS, they'd be building their own, for half the cost.


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By frozentundra123456 on 5/18/2011 3:15:52 PM , Rating: 4
I am quite disturbed by the superior attitudes of those who build their own systems.
I have a college degree and work in research, but am not sure that I would want to try to build my own system.
If someone wants to pay a bit more for professional assembly and a warranty, I dont see that makes one stupid.


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By GaryJohnson on 5/18/2011 3:27:46 PM , Rating: 3
If it were "a bit more" it would be easy to agree with you. But it's not a bit. It's more like double.

And all the sub-components have their own warranties. So you would not be so much as paying more for a warranty as you would be paying more for someone else to handle your warranties.


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By MrTeal on 5/18/2011 3:55:31 PM , Rating: 2
It's not that bad. I speced out one of the E3s to see what kind of premium they charge, and it's high but not any different than any boutique builder.
Erebus E3
Quad-Radiator Liquid Cooling
i5-2500k
2x4GB Corsair DDR3-1600
Liquid Cooled AMD 6990
Asus P8Z68V-Pro mobo
Corsair CMPSU-850AX
Corsair Force 120GB SS
2TB 64MB 7200RPM HDD
10x Blu Ray
Win7 Home Premium and Office Starter
Logitech KB and Mouse
At $3340 that's expensive, but something similar at Newegg isn't that much cheaper...
Antec 900 case
Swiftech Triple-Radiator, CPU block and Pump
i5-2500k
2x4GB G.Skill DDR3-1600
Liquid Cooled AMD 6990
Asus P8Z68V-Pro mobo
Corsair CMPSU-850AX
Corsair Force 120GB SS
Hitachi 2TB 64MB 7200RPM HDD
10x Blu Ray Drive
Win7 Home Premium
No KB/Mouse
That comes out to $2500, plus you'll still have to buy barbs, hose and coolant for all that. It's still at least a $700 premium, but it's not double as much.


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By Alexvrb on 5/18/2011 9:31:17 PM , Rating: 3
"Not different than any boutique builder"

That more or less says to me that Gary is right. The entry-level "gaming" $1250 buildout has a GTX 550Ti. That's not acceptable in a "gaming" machine of that pricing. A warranty? Well that's fine for Billy's college gaming/porn machine, if he wasn't insisting on a laptop. But for geeks (as most people here are), are you going to call their tech support when you have a problem? Are you going to mail it off to them for repair work (hope you didn't need your PC this month)?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-OEM. The regular-joe OEM boxes (Dell, HP, Gateway) make a lot more sense to me. They're economical, they're good for your non-tech-inclined family members. I look forward to OEM Llano-based boxes, that way even entry-level laptops and desktops will be getting some halfway decent IGPs.

But boutique PCs? At those prices, you'd be better off finding a local brick and mortar builder. At least then if you have a problem, you can just carry it in.


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By DEVGRU on 5/18/11, Rating: 0
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By MrTeal on 5/18/2011 3:32:13 PM , Rating: 2
Especially with a water-cooled rig. It might not be rocket science, but unless you're pretty confident in what you're doing it might be worth the couple hundred dollars if it avoids the chance of fried components and a couple liters of coolant on your floor.

It's pretty much the same in many other areas; adding a new breaker and running a circuit or plumbing a bathroom isn't particularly hard, but even people who are pretty handy often hire the pros to do it. For many people it's just not worth the time or risk to do it yourself.


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By deathwombat on 5/18/2011 5:11:03 PM , Rating: 2
I have to disagree with you. Anyone can build a computer, though it's harder when you have to screw around with water cooling, and even harder to produce a stable ridiculous overclock. But that's why you do it: to learn how.

Would you pay someone to restore a classic car for you? No, you do it yourself for the experience. It's a labor of love; the process is as rewarding as the result.

Building a machine like this one yourself is not only cheaper, it's more satisfying. You did the research, you picked the components, you put it together with your own hands. Your reward is the sense of achievement, and you can brag about the awesome machine that you designed and built yourself. You don't get that when you pay someone else to do it for you.


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By MrTeal on 5/18/2011 5:25:14 PM , Rating: 4
And I'll disagree with you. Disagreement: The circle of internet life. :)

For some people, you're definitely right. In the case you describe building and overclocking computers is a hobby and something that the person enjoys doing, just like restoring classic cars. However, iBuyPower and classic car restoration companies exist for a reason. There's a large number of people out there that just want a really powerful rig that's reasonably quiet, or want the 70s muscle car that they drooled over as a kid. They don't want to be go through all the learning and effort to set up that computer or fix up the car, they just want the end result. That doesn't make them bad or incompetent, it just means that they'd rather spend their time on other things.


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By dubldwn on 5/18/2011 5:52:28 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think restoring a car or plumbing a bathroom is comparable to putting together a computer.

Putting together the hardware is a joke. You plug stuff in. Not sure what the OP has a degree in or what he researches, but I would hope it is far more complicated than building a rig. It takes a few hours on a Saturday afternoon start to finish, and once you do it, I’d find it hard to believe anyone (male DailyTech reader) would buy a prebuilt one again.


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By ZmaxDP on 5/18/2011 7:13:19 PM , Rating: 3
Uhhh... Sexist much?

I'm unaware of any physical difference that prevents women from building computers, or restoring classic cars for that matter. Implying that women are somehow not idiots for not building their own computers while men are while all else is effectively equal... Now THAT is stupid.

Meanwhile, for those arguing for the "only idiots don't build their own computers" position... (Yes, I'm paraphrasing a bit, I know it wasn't worded exactly like that previously) make up your minds. Is it a financial issue, or is it a passion/pleasure/emotional issue? If people are idiots because they could save money, then I can clearly draw a line in the sand at a salary rate when it becomes stupid to build your own. (And that rate isn't as high as you think when you consider everything that goes into building your own rig.) If it is emotional, then guess what? Some people like what you like, and some people don't. I don't like artichokes. You might. Neither of us are wrong, or right for that matter. It's called personal preference.

For me, despite it not making economic sense to build my own rigs, I do it because I like it. For some even when it does make economic sense the emotional aspect might weight their decision against it. Trying to make this a right/wrong or smart/stupid issue is just close minded...


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By Iketh on 5/18/2011 8:10:42 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I'm unaware of any physical difference that prevents women from building computers, or restoring classic cars for that matter.


not physical, psychological... get it right

but i'm just playing on his attempt at humor; to me he was just being comical like most in this thread were... you should really lighten up


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By Flunk on 5/19/2011 9:41:57 AM , Rating: 2
Putting together a computer takes about 30 minutes (30 more to install windows but you don't actually need to be there past the first few), so if you're saving $700 like someone claims above (I know this is inflated) you would have to make $700 an hour for it not to be worth it.


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By Chaser on 5/18/2011 6:21:39 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I am quite disturbed by the superior attitudes of those who build their own systems.

So am I. really folks get over it. Some of us don't druel over a parts website fantasizing about their next "build".

I bought an Ibuypower system and I couldn't be happier. 1. It's fully tested and BACKED by them. Not to mention their service and pre and POST sale is top notch. If something goes wrong or fails I don't have to dig through receipts or call manufacturers and parlay with them.

I have better things to do with my time like using my computer rather than spending hours geek fantasizing over components to shave dollars or save a megahertz.


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By Iketh on 5/18/2011 8:36:26 PM , Rating: 1
oh no you didn't just spell drool like that

On another note, there's absolutely no difference between putting a parts list together and searching for a pre-built system with the right components. Your point is moot.

If you're spending hours, then you're well-informed and taking advantage of it or you're working your way to that point. You're trying to knock a well-informed buyer, so again a very weak argument.

As others have pointed out, it's not "shaving" dollars. It's a substantial reduction in cost building your own.

In summary, you're entire post is an attempt to bring your own spirits up for buying a pre-built desktop after getting butt-hurt reading through the comments. But really it's ok. A psychological defense to artificially keep your confidence from plummeting is human nature.


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By croc on 5/18/2011 10:45:56 PM , Rating: 1
At my rates, I'd rather be doing something for a client, thank you, than building my own system. But don't get all butt-hurt just because you don't make very much...


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By Iketh on 5/19/2011 12:41:55 AM , Rating: 1
2 hours to put it together and get windows installed to save potentially a couple grand... wow that's quite a rate you have. I will concede mine is not that high.

That timeframe is without water-cooling though, but my point still stands since you're backing a system that is designed to achieve maximum overclocks with statements of how valuable your time is. That's nearly a paradox.

Your point would carry just a little more weight if you said you'd rather skydive or excersize or some other hobby, since clearly this is when I'd build a system. You do have leisure time, yes?

$7000 and it comes with 2x96GB Kingston SSDs in RAID. Seven THOUSAND. I'd instead use one Intel 510 250GB, keep TRIM, eliminate the doubled failure rate, and still save a shitload.


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By croc on 5/19/2011 1:45:49 AM , Rating: 1
Yes, I do get a spot of leisure every so often... I like to spend that time sailing, NOT diddling with what I do for a living, thank you. Next trip planned is a cross-Tasman run to NZ, so my partner can visit some friends / rellies.


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By Flunk on 5/19/2011 9:37:39 AM , Rating: 2
What's your degree in Chemistry, Physics, Biology? If it's not really relevant to the topic at hand so why bother mentioning it.

Assembling computers is very simple. White box makers like iBuyPower don't do anything different from what you could do easily yourself, and they care a lot less about your computer than you do.

Buying factory machines like HP, Dell and the other big names make can make a lot of sense because they can be really inexpensive in the low end (economies of scale and all that) but this particular machine is an example of a huge waste of money because it is built of off the shelf parts with a highly inflated price.


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By frozentundra123456 on 5/20/2011 1:13:12 AM , Rating: 2
I mentioned having a degree because it shows that I have a reasonable ability to learn and use information, and despite this, I am somewhat intimidated by trying to build a computer. Despite how easy everyone says it is, I still think that assembling a computer requires a fair amount of expertise to mount all the components properly, do the wiring and install all the drivers and windows itself.

What I was trying to say is that different people have skills in different areas, and to call someone stupid because they are not skilled or confident in one limited skill set is insulting and unfair. There is more to life than building computers you know.

And I really dont desire any emotional attachment to my computer, even if it were to be derived from building it myself. To me it is just a piece of equipment that allows me perform the tasks that I want.


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By Sazabi19 on 5/20/2011 10:11:52 AM , Rating: 2
Lol we don't have a superior attitude, we just think it is stupid. You could probably build your own PC very easily, most everything in there is based off 2 of the most basic principals you learned before 1st grade, shape and color. Most everything inside your rig is color coded and connectors will only fit where they should be. As long as you look up on a website what you need for a functioning machine you should be ok, 3 biggest factors are CPU socket, Ram (DDR# and pins), and making sure you have enough amperage on your rails to run your machine (Watts aren't the determining factor as much). As long as you get those 3 things down pretty much everything else now is compatible. Charging this much of a permium though for people that don't know is stupid. I'm in the computer industry (computer and wiring infrustructure tech) and if anyone wants me to build 1 for them i will discuss what they want it for and spec things accordingly, have them pay for it, and ill only charge like 20-40 to build it since it does take a little time. I let all of them know about the warranties and ask if they want to pay for the company warranty for a company to build them a computer, but for the price i always hear no. Also, this cooling is far from anything great or pushing boundaries. a few years ago i found a computer called "Nuclear Winter" (http://www.biohazard-computers.com/ it is a bit dated though) and it used a phase change cooling system, sure it weighed about 50summod lbs before components were added but when you are getting -20c at 4.5 most hardcore OCers won't mind. Also, the liquid submersion cooled PC (the Reactor & Dominator) (http://www.hardcorecomputer.com/index.html) is revolitionary. Just do a little research.


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