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Porsche's turbodiesel can't fix ugly

Porsche continues to expand its lineup by introducing more fuel-efficient models. The company has already introduced diesel and hybrid versions of its Cayenne crossover. Likewise, the company's news nameplate, the Panamera, will soon be available in hybrid form.

Today, however, Porsche has officially revealed the newest member of the family: the Panamera Diesel. The Panamera Diesel uses a more powerful version of the VW Group 3.0-liter V6 turbodiesel that is used in the Cayenne. In this application, it generates 250hp at 3,800 rpm and 405 lb-ft of torque at a low 1,750 rpm.

Those wishing to row your own gears will have to look elsewhere -- the Panamera Diesel can only be had with Porsche's 8-speed Tiptronic S transmission.

Porsche says that the Panamera Diesel can sprint to 60 mph in a respectable 6.8 seconds and has a top speed of 150 mph. The vehicle is rated at a U.S. equivalent 36.2 mpg on the European Cycle. As a result, Porsche's long-distance cruiser can travel a whopping 744 miles thanks to its generous 21-gallon fuel tank. 

While the powertrain is new in the Panamera, the styling hasn't change one bit. In fact, about the only thing that will alert pedestrians to the turbodiesel lurking within are the "Diesel" badges on the front doors. Otherwise, the Panamera’s family resemblance up front and dreadful backend/hatchback area remain.



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RE: Did you hear that?
By MrBlastman on 5/2/2011 1:42:31 PM , Rating: 0
Hahaha yeah, what a joke! 6.8 seconds is slooooooooooooooow. Okay, it's fast, maybe, if you're in the 1960's!

I seriously don't get why someone would buy this car. The whole purpose behind Porsche is to get a fast car that looks sexy on the outside and is luxurious on the inside while handling extremely well.

Sure, this car goes 150 mph, but it will take forever to get there. Top that off with it being a porker, I really doubt it will handle well at all. This car is a driving hypocrisy.

Wait. Wait, I apologize COMPLETELY. Porsche does have a target market for this thing...

Apple users. They'll buy these things in droves.


RE: Did you hear that?
By Spuke on 5/2/2011 1:49:08 PM , Rating: 1
I can't speak for this version but the Panamera Turbo is a very impressive handling car. See the Top Gear episode on it.


RE: Did you hear that?
By Lord 666 on 5/2/2011 2:05:43 PM , Rating: 2
Don't need a Top Gear episode to tell me that. Even funnier, you should see the old ladies driving them around in my area. Its like they grow on trees lately.

But for the diesel part, the 3.0 is a bit small. Not to mention this car is not far from the Cayenne's weight.


RE: Did you hear that?
By bah12 on 5/2/2011 2:10:15 PM , Rating: 2
I agree, the one living in the 1960's is the guy that thinks a heavier 4 door cannot also handle well. This one, the CTS-V, M5, and many more have proven this many times.

Don't believe me take this link as an example. Heck the CTS-V alone has bested a LOT of smaller lighter cars. Even beating the much lighter Honda 2000 by almost a full minute, as well as besting even the more modern Boxster S and Skyline. Albeit these are hardly true apples to apples runs, but my point is a heavier car does not mean bad handling one if engineered right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_...


RE: Did you hear that?
By Jeffk464 on 5/2/2011 3:24:47 PM , Rating: 2
True, but you need a whole lot better tire grip to pull it off. Weight is the enemy of performance.


RE: Did you hear that?
By Spuke on 5/2/2011 4:37:13 PM , Rating: 2
Considering the weight, the tires on the CTS-V aren't all that aggressive or wide for that matter. Just some Michelin PS2's. Nothing you wouldn't find on other cars of its caliber.


RE: Did you hear that?
By RussianSensation on 5/2/2011 4:45:59 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed.

Either Porsche or the target customer for this vehicle is having an identity crisis. A Porsche is supposed to be a sports car. 6.8s 0-60 is completely unacceptable for a Porsche non-SUV vehicle. It's even more unacceptable for a car with a price tag of > $100k without having the luxury of a Bentley, etc.

Also, if someone can afford a car for $100-120k, they obviously shouldn't care about the gas price. If they want to save the environment, this car isn't it either since they'd probably be looking into an electric car. Basically, I don't understand any reason at all to get this vehicle with such an underpowered engine. The stock V6 car gets to 0-60 in 5.8 seconds (5.6s with PDK) and gets a reasonable 22 mpg avg. This means the financial savings from reduced fuel costs for the owner will be immaterial because this isn't a $15,000 Honda Civic.

Optional low-rolling-resistance tires? Seriously? Whoever orders that pretty much is a "brand wh***" since it's pretty obvious they just bought the car for the badge.


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