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Microsoft has scored a "flawless" victory with Kinect sales

Playstation Plus is giving gamers a bit more value for their dollar with online savegame storage
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A couple of huge announcements have been released in the gaming world today as Sony broadens its features for the PlayStation Plus and Microsoft's Kinect for Xbox 360 receives the Guinness World Record for Fastest Selling Consumer Electronics Device. 

Sony will launch online storage for PS3 game saves tomorrow, which will be part of the annual $50 subscription. This new feature provides users with 150MB of space in the cloud available for 1,000 save files, and copy-prohibited files can be backed up as long as users only restore deleted files from their system once a day.

In addition, games to be released in the future will be able to save directly to the PlayStation Network. This will be released tomorrow in PS3 firmware v3.60, allowing users to completely bypass their local HDD. 

While PlayStation gamers celebrate the new features unveiling tomorrow, Microsoft has some celebrating of its own to do.

Microsoft announced today that the Kinect for Xbox 360 has been named the Fastest Selling Consumer Electronics Device by Guinness World Records. To date, 10 million Kinect sensors have been sold worldwide, with another 10 million standalone Kinect games sold globally to date. 

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Color me...
By Motoman on 3/9/2011 5:24:41 PM , Rating: -1
...surprised. I haven't heard much in the way of positive reviews of Kinect. ?

RE: Color me...
By cjohnson2136 on 3/9/2011 5:27:12 PM , Rating: 2
Well since Kinect is still new people just go quickly buy it and then the reviews come in lol.

RE: Color me...
By Mitch101 on 3/10/2011 9:35:08 AM , Rating: 4
My wife hates anything electronic I buy she refers to it as more crap I'll never use.

However she loves Kinect and comes home from work to play it. First time Ive ever seen her play a video game since Ms Pac Man on the kids arcade cabinet. Its also something our whole family gets into. Comical to see my 7 year old challenge my wife to a dance off. My wife and kids love it. I enjoy it a lot but Im more of a first person shooter so Kinect fills my goofy side and my PC fills my serious gamer side.

This is one game I see everyone wanting to do especially at a party.

I also hope the star wars game they are going to release at the end of the year is good. I need to get my star wars kid on.

The only thing im concerned with is that Microsoft continues to keep the games rolling for Kinect. Im also considering getting one for my PC because the homebrew stuff is starting to look very cool. Especially those merging Kinect with Movie/short film production of virtual actors.

RE: Color me...
By kleinma on 3/9/2011 5:38:38 PM , Rating: 2
Other than the shitty launch titles, the thing is really a sweet piece of tech for 150 bucks. Now that MS released the SDK, people can get creative and we will see this thing doing some amazing stuff. That and the supposed software update that is going to improve its accuracy somewhere around 4x

RE: Color me...
By Zok on 3/9/2011 6:38:18 PM , Rating: 5
Exactly right. I'd be shocked if more than 70% of those purchases were to actually game on the Xbox 360. The number of hackers, tinkerers, researchers, etc, playing with this thing is massive.

In all honesty, Microsoft "accidentally" stepped into an entire new market with Kinect. I wouldn't be surprised if we were to see a "professional" version of Kinect with higher resolution cameras, mics, etc, for use on PCs only, within the next year or so.

RE: Color me...
By Alexvrb on 3/9/2011 8:10:50 PM , Rating: 4
Kinect HD? Sounds plausible. Coupled with a USB 3.0 interface, they could throw a lot of high res 3D audio/video data at a PC.

Man, I'd like to see someone integrate this into a PC-based home security system (offline obviously). It could utilize voice and 3D face recognition.

"Open the garage bay door, HAL."

Whatever you do, don't give it conflicting mission orders.

RE: Color me...
By Solandri on 3/9/2011 8:13:09 PM , Rating: 4
In all honesty, Microsoft "accidentally" stepped into an entire new market with Kinect.

Well, not entirely new. Lego Mindstorms have been camped in that market for nearly 15 years now. The Kinect replaces the cheap but slow and inaccurate sonar-based acoustic rangefinders commonly used for collision avoidance during 3D navigation.
I wouldn't be surprised if we were to see a "professional" version of Kinect with higher resolution cameras, mics, etc, for use on PCs only, within the next year or so.

I'm skeptical a "pro Kinect" would sell that well. The current Kinect sells well because it's a consumer device. Microsoft knew they'd sell millions of them, so they were able to keep the unit price low via massive manufacturing contracts and amortization of R&D across those millions of units. If you make it a pro device with probably fewer than 100k expected sales, the price would skyrocket.

For an example of that type of market segmentation, look at digital SLRs. The consumer-grade camera bodies sell for ~$500. But the pro bodies sell for ~$5000. The vast majority of hobbyists are going to consider the consumer version "good enough" rather than pay 10x more for a pro version. In the DSLR market, the pro models are kept alive because casual photographers look up to pro photographers who use those models thus ending up upgrading to prosumer-grade and sometimes pro-grade equipment, and because Nikon and Canon are constantly competing for bragging rights on the "best" high-end camera. Neither of those forces would be present with a pro Kinect model.

RE: Color me...
By Alexvrb on 3/9/2011 10:18:07 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think he meant professional in the same way you're thinking. It basically would just be a slightly upgraded Kinect with a higher-resolution RGB camera. I don't think you'd even need to upgrade the depth components or audio side. I'm thinking around $100 more than a standard Kinect.

RE: Color me...
By theapparition on 3/10/2011 8:49:05 AM , Rating: 2
Don't even need to do any upgrading.

The camera on the current Kinect is much higher resolution that what MS software limits it to. MS is working on an update right now that will release the full resolution of the camera.

RE: Color me...
By Mitch101 on 3/10/2011 1:17:34 PM , Rating: 3
The camera in high resolution mode can read sign language. This may not seem important but to someone who is learning it could be. Also shows how advanced it can get.

RE: Color me...
By sigmatau on 3/10/2011 12:08:36 AM , Rating: 2
Oh my! A MS hardware product that sold way more in a short time than anything Apple has done. That should be in the record books too!

I know many are using the Kinect to run their home theatre computers/systems. This thing is pretty sweet.

RE: Color me...
By Mitch101 on 3/10/2011 1:22:16 PM , Rating: 2
Microsoft Got Kinect Because "Apple is a Pain in the Ass",2817,2372265,

Of course, it wouldn't be fair to only point at Apple; other companies like Nintendo, for example, had a chance to pick up a Kinect-like device and run with it.

RE: Color me...
By crazyblackman on 3/10/11, Rating: -1
RE: Color me...
By themaster08 on 3/10/2011 2:49:05 AM , Rating: 2
Be quiet, PlayStation fanboy. Just because you are unable to fathom that people out there actually enjoy what the Xbox 360 provides, it doesn't mean the Xbox is not worth the money.

All of this frustration over the ongoing successes of the Xbox is no good for your health, my friend. Find a more productive hobby.

RE: Color me...
By Hieyeck on 3/10/2011 3:20:48 PM , Rating: 2
I would suggest maybe picking up a dancing game, such as something from this list:

RE: Color me...
By Azethoth on 3/9/2011 6:41:07 PM , Rating: 2
Weird, I have only heard positive things about it. Well, with the exception of anti-fanbois bitching about it in comments sometimes ;-p

As an interface guy it is exciting to witness this emerging interface breakthrough. I predict it becoming as ubiquitous as gps / motion sensors / gyros / etc. as the costs get driven down.

Oh yeah, and one day our robot overlords will use its descendants to see with no doubt.

RE: Color me...
By Shig on 3/9/2011 7:51:08 PM , Rating: 2
@open SDK

I just saw this video about using a kinect for home automation. Check it out.

RE: Color me...
By theapparition on 3/10/2011 8:53:36 AM , Rating: 2
Kinect is awesome.

Sure, it's not for the hard core gamer, but as a family game it's pretty cool. Even the bundled game is fun to play, or to watch your kids play.

RE: Color me...
By Motoman on 3/10/2011 10:17:44 AM , Rating: 2
...I am honestly surprised that I got down-rated...although apparently there's a bit of a fight, since my OP was at 0 and is back up to 1...

I'm being completely serious - I read several reviews of the device when it was coming out and none of them seemed overly impressed...and many, if not most, seemed to think it was fairly clumsy to use.

I'm sure there's people who enjoy using it...but if there were positive reviews of it at launch, I missed them.

RE: Color me...
By Smilin on 3/10/2011 5:24:49 PM , Rating: 2
You got downrated because there are indeed positive reviews of it. There are also many on this forum who have actually used it.

I played with one since the beta and there is a reason it sold 8million units.

Most of the negative reviews I saw of it seemed to be folks that just didn't get it. "why aren't there 3d shooters for it??" ... same reason there aren't 3d shooters made to work with a steering wheel - it's not the right tool for the job. Just because a screwdriver doesn't work with a nail doesn't mean there is something wrong with either of them.

Personally I would rather people reply when they disagree. I don't use my downvotes for people I disagree with, I use them for people who are not contributing to the conversation.

meh. Either way I'm glad I own one!

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