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Microsoft will be releasing Windows 7 tablets this year, but its dedicated tablet build of Windows 7 reportedly won't land until next year.  (Source: Microsoft)
Microsoft looks to arrive VERY late to the tablet game

According to Bloomberg, sources at Microsoft state that the company will be making a very late tablet push, unveiling a dedicated tablet operating system sometime next year (2012).

With Apple announcing its entry-level priced iPad 2 and with a host of Android competitors like Samsung and Motorola releasing higher-powered, more expensive entries, the tablet market is on fire.  The competition is particularly fierce on the operating system side where Apple has poured a great deal of effort to make iOS better suited for a large-screen device.  Similarly Google has put tremendous effort to complete Android 3.0 Honeycomb, which overhauls the past Android UI and makes it truly tablet-friendly.  Even HP's webOS and RIM are looking to get a piece of the tablet business

Microsoft, meanwhile stands watching on the sidelines.  While it will release some Windows 7-based tablets this year, the outlook for them is somewhat poor.  They require Intel x86 processors, and the chipmaker has struggled to deliver energy efficient Atom chips for tablets.  Another trouble spot is the Windows 7 OS itself.  The operating system isn't exactly optimized for a tablet experience, and with dedicated competitors like iOS 4.3 and Android Honeycomb 3.0 on the market, that could seriously stall sales.

Bloomberg quoted Michael Gartenberg, a New Jersey-based analyst, as meeting the news with pessimism, stating, "If 2011 is the year of the tablet wars, Microsoft will be awfully late suiting up for that battle."

And he's not alone; Goldman Sachs was scathing in a recent assessment of Microsoft and Intel's combined tablet efforts.

Then again, a late entry may not spell doom for Microsoft's tablet efforts.  Its other key mobile offering -- smartphones -- looked like a mess after the downhill slide of Windows Mobile and the abysmal failure of Kin.  But by going back to the drawing board and taking the time to reinvent, the company has delivered arguably the most innovative smart phone user interface currently available.  And with a new partnership with Nokia in hand, Microsoft could pass Apple to become the world's second largest smartphone OS maker in terms of sales if it plays its cards right.

The one worrisome sign is that Microsoft is reportedly choosing to build on top of Windows 7, adding more touch features.  While Windows 7 is arguably a great personal computer OS the question is whether even a modified version will be up to speed on tablets.  While such an approach is a quicker and easier, many were hoping the company would port the Windows Phone 7/Zune operating system to a tablet, given its more touch-centric UI.  To Microsoft's credit, many users -- including DailyTech readers -- have clamored for Windows 7-tablets.

Interestingly, Microsoft appears to be preparing to follow a similar approach that Google is following with its upcoming Chrome netbook/notebook OS, giving out test units to commercial partners and the public.  Microsoft will reportedly begin distributing device with test builds of the new OS before the end of the year.

It is unclear whether current generation Windows 7 tablets releasing this year will be upgradeable to the new OS next year, but this presumably would be the case, if hardware makers cooperate.

According to reports [1] [2] by In-Stat, the tablet business will be booming over the next several years, and will, in part, cannibalize PC sales.  In-Stat predicts over 100 new designs from Apple, Android makers (Motorola, Samsung, HTC, Sony-Ericcson, Archos, etc.), RIM, HP (webOS), MeeGo tablet makers (no major named partners), and Windows tablet makers (Dell, Lenovo, etc.) to enter the market this year.  And it predicts sales by 2014 to rise to 58 million units and by 2015 to 118 million units. 

Microsoft is also reportedly preparing its next generation version of Windows, which will support ARM CPUs for notebooks, Windows 8.



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Industrial strength failure
By Tony Swash on 3/4/2011 11:56:34 AM , Rating: -1
Only Microsoft (and perhaps Nokia) could deliver such Industrial strength failure so consistently. I am astonished Ballmer is still in post.

Do the bozos in Seattle have any idea how fast things are changing?




RE: Industrial strength failure
By NellyFromMA on 3/4/2011 12:06:46 PM , Rating: 2
Ya man, totally. Industrial strength failure is typically measured in what, btw? Clearly not dollars, right?


RE: Industrial strength failure
By Taft12 on 3/4/11, Rating: -1
RE: Industrial strength failure
By Mitch101 on 3/4/2011 1:50:59 PM , Rating: 2
Billions of dollars in failure. If only I could fail so miserably.

http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-op...


RE: Industrial strength failure
By kleinma on 3/4/2011 2:00:52 PM , Rating: 5
yeah, that xbox and kinect crap they make hardly sells at all, hell kinect only sold 3 million more units than their target was... total and utter failure!!!!


RE: Industrial strength failure
By Mitch101 on 3/4/2011 12:09:13 PM , Rating: 2
Yes It would be better for them to rush an incomplete product to market only to be ridiculed for it but then no matter what Microsoft makes you will ridicule them without ever trying the product.

iPad 2
http://video.teamcoco.com/video/conan.jsp?oid=2454...


RE: Industrial strength failure
By Lord 666 on 3/4/2011 12:14:10 PM , Rating: 2
Well, back in 2007 there wasn't even cut/paste on iPhones. Yet they worked on it and improved.

MS is honestly doomed in the tablet market because of this.


RE: Industrial strength failure
By Mitch101 on 3/4/2011 12:49:09 PM , Rating: 2
LOL. Kidding aside.

I have a $200 Nook color now with Android Froyo (Phone OS on there now) Honeycomb 3.0 will work on it but waiting for it to improve before committing. I would say it has all the power and options that should last me until Microsoft is ready in 2012. I see no die hard app necessary to upgrade in the pipeline and since the hardware specs match a lot of the Android Phones like Droid-X there will be plenty more apps and games I can run on it and those people are locked into 2 year agreements ensuring about a 2 year lifespan of the rooted nook color.

If you have an iPad 1 I would say there is no need to get the iPad 2 and most people even internal Apple staff said iPad 2 is a ho hum release wait for the iPad 3 which will be released in the Fall of 2011. By then Microsoft will probably be demoing/leaking their tablet info also and the Rim and HP tablets will be out too.

If I had to buy a tablet today Id be tempted to get an iPad but would still get a Nook Color just because I dont see anything the iPad does that the $200.00 nook color doesn't that I cant live without. Wow camera Ive got one on my PC and haven't used it in years more of a gimmick than anything else.

I went through the Microsoft demonstration on their tablet and while sad I will have to wait it should be worth it when its finally released.


RE: Industrial strength failure
By melgross on 3/6/2011 10:45:17 PM , Rating: 3
The Nook will run Android, but poorly. This is not a mainstream Android design piece of hardware. It's a rather weak device. It MAY run Honeycomb, but not in a way so that you would want to, otherwise as a hobby. Buy a Xoom if you want Honeycomb and a useful amount of speed.

No one at Apple ever said what you just said about the iPad 2. You, or your source are making that up. The iPad 2 is a much improved tablet. Lighter in weight, thinner, twice the CPU power, nine times the graphics performance, twice the RAM, two cameras, 1080p output, Apple's Nitro Java engine for Safari. Even if someone doesn't like Apple, dismissing that as minor is nuts!


RE: Industrial strength failure
By JasonMick (blog) on 3/4/2011 12:16:37 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Only Microsoft (and perhaps Nokia) could deliver such Industrial strength failure so consistently. I am astonished Ballmer is still in post.

Do the bozos in Seattle have any idea how fast things are changing?


Tony, I'll give you this. Apple's iPad 2 looks to be priced right with a good blend of form factor, battery life, power, and application library. I'm sure it will sell well.

That said, Microsoft is unquestionably dominant in several lucrative markets -- PC operating systems, productivity software, and web browsing.

Outside these core businesses, expectations were low for many of its projects (e.g. the Xbox, Windows Phone 7), but it's managed to do surprisingly well thus far.

Any gamer could tell you that when MSFT decided to jump into the console world, they were met with skepticism at best -- now they're #2.

Sure Kin was a colossal black mark on MSFT's record, but consider that after that most dismissed MSFT's chances expecting it to be distantly behind the trifecta of Android, iOS, and RIM OS. Now with a partnership with Nokia in hand, MSFT is replacing Symbian and looks virtually assured a #2 spot in the world market AHEAD of Apple. Not only that, it arguably provides the most innovative smart phone interface, more so than Google or Apple.

Will MSFT succeed when it eventually does enter the tablet market in earnest? I can't say for sure. But if anything, I'd look at Microsoft's many successes and be a bit more optimistic than many of the analysts out there....

Doing something first is great, but history has shown that truly great businesses don't necessarily do it first, but they do do it right. Microsoft has that opportunity when it comes to tablets.


RE: Industrial strength failure
By XZerg on 3/4/2011 12:40:32 PM , Rating: 1
Just remember when looking at Microsoft's success on anything, unlike Apple, do so by taking the collective numbers of all the vendors that include Microsoft product on their hardware. So when indeed the Windows Tablet OS is launched, it will be 1000 companies supporting Microsoft product which will be going against Apple or even Google for that matter. iOS and Android are more like a filler for till MS gets its product out. Hopefully not too late before iOS and Android gets a big % of the market.

With the way the phone companies and the hardware companies are going MS can afford to wait until end of 2013 or 2014. The key reason being prices and the money gouging that phone companies are focused on when it comes to data and contracts.


RE: Industrial strength failure
By Mitch101 on 3/4/2011 1:09:39 PM , Rating: 2
Adding to Mick's comments.

Kin is still being sold and the reviews are favorable.

Kin One
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controlle...

Kin Two
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controlle...

Phone Carriers killed the kins adoption requiring a high priced data package but the devices were good.

Microsoft is #2 in console sales but #1 in game sales. Ive seen many reports that Microsoft sells more games to their console owners than the other two consoles.

Kinect was a huge success and Im looking forward to it on the PC with the Microsoft SDK and a few more of the games in the pipeline. Those of you who hate kinect should know that Apple tried to buy them but Microsoft cut the check. Steve Jobs wanted Kinect.

Im waiting for a Windows Phone 7 on Verizon its a great phone and second because of all the additional functionality the device will be able to do that's exclusive to Windows Phone 7. X-Box, Sharepoint, Linq, and Exchange and Im sure more is in the works.

Even Apple employees have commented to wait for the iPad 3 and I dont see anyone developing an exclusive killer app for the iPad 2 that wouldn't work on the iPad 1.

Some poeple just need something to hate and Microsoft is an easy choice because 10 years ago they had a blue screen at the wrong time. The funny part is the majority of haters never tried the Microsoft products they bash. Take the Zune a lot of people hate them and made fun of them but they are the top ranked MP3 devices on NewEgg. Those who used them love them. It just wasn't cool to like a Microsoft product.


By StraightCashHomey on 3/4/2011 1:25:22 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
That said, Microsoft is unquestionably dominant in several lucrative markets -- PC operating systems, productivity software, and web browsing.


Exactly. People that live or die by the tablet or phone sales have absolutely no idea what goes on in the business world, where Apple has almost zero presense and Google has very little presense. The vastly superior products that Microsoft provides to businesses is completely out of Apple's league, and Microsoft is raking in cash hand over fist in that sector.

However, the business world isn't as talked about on here, because that wouldn't appeal to most of the McDonalds employees like Tony that have no idea what Active Directory does.


RE: Industrial strength failure
By Tony Swash on 3/4/11, Rating: -1
RE: Industrial strength failure
By omnicronx on 3/4/2011 2:34:17 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
His view is that by the end of this year Nokia will have fallen to 12% of the global smart phone market and that's before we can expect a Nokia WP7 handset.
You've clearly taken that entire article out of context. Instead of cherry picking numbers, perhaps you should actually read the article.

"Please understand, the above change is ONLY related to the Nokia Microsoft announcement and how its 'windfall' market share gift would be allocated to the major rivals. It is not my forecast for the year 2011"

He then goes on to make a far more conservative drop of 10% to 18% share, which as he explains is not neccesarily a doom and gloom story, but a natural part of the transition from one OS to another. This makes sense as now that consumers know of the switch, Symbian sales are going to wind down until the Windows based OS is implemented.

In fact the article is not necessarily a doom and gloom story at all, but about how the 10% drop (or 50 million phones including this years growth) will be dispersed among other manufacturers. Which as the article explains is more than all iPhone's sold last year which also shows the market growth in the smartphone industry. (in which 10% now accounts for more phones than 20% of the market covered last year)

Either way, Nokia still has a huge presence outside North America and even 12% share before beginning to rebound is a great thing for MS. That means 12% plus any share due to other Windows Phone manufacturers. So even conservatively that would put them into the #2 or #3 spot.


By snakeInTheGrass on 3/5/2011 11:40:13 PM , Rating: 1
Wow, I was going to say that this 'transmutation' of Nokia/Symbian phones into Nokia/WP7 has yet to be logically explained. Given, Symbian share will drop, but there's no logical reason to assume those users then start to pick up WP7 devices unless the assumption is that people are too dumb or lazy to switch to an OS that has more apps and market share - and will jump ship to Apple/Android or even HP if you want something more interesting. But apparently you get rated down for pointing that out, looking back up at Tony's post.

The only reasonable explanation for users to stay with Nokia/WP7 would be if they're at businesses that are too big and stodgy to change their procurement contracts - which as users are about the least likely to buy anything interesting on handsets or stimulate a real consumer market. There's nothing quite as exciting as corporate users, especially in the new world of 'You better not run anything not approved/screened by the IT security staff on that device!'. Exciting place to be.

Sorry, of course WP7 will do great now that people can switch to Nokia. I'd be surprised if there were still any competing devices in a year or two. Ballmer told me, so no worries at all.


RE: Industrial strength failure
By Smilin on 3/7/2011 4:53:29 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
The idea that the current Nokia global sales will transmute into WP7 Nokia phone sales thus propelling Microsoft into some sort giant market share is not very plausible.


We don't agree often, but here we do.

I think the partnership is a great move and will benefit Microsoft enormously while keeping Nokia afloat. The idea that there will be a 100% conversion of Nokia marketshare to WP7 marketshare is downright naive.


RE: Industrial strength failure
By cochy on 3/4/2011 12:17:38 PM , Rating: 2
When you don't have a visionary in charge of a tech company these types of things happen and innovation suffers. The writing should have been on the wall when Gates left. Surprisingly even under his leadership the tablet PC was not successful, even though he was very excited about the idea.

Look at Google replacing Schmidt with Page as further evidence of the above.


RE: Industrial strength failure
By vision33r on 3/4/2011 2:15:32 PM , Rating: 2
Microsoft's demise of late is all attributed to Steve Ballmer's "corporate" approach with tech.

He has this wait and snipe approach.

WinMo had the marketshare lead and Ballmer sat on their lead for years until Apple came out and pulled the rug from under them.

WinMo 7 was the perfect example of a failed ship still trying to set sail.

Windows Phone 7 was 5 years late and could've changed everything had Ballmer acted on it sooner.

Microsoft is now cornering themselves out of all the new markets. It doesn't matter how much money they pour into new ideas and products they will fail due to their internal culture and leadership.

Time for a change.


RE: Industrial strength failure
By Helbore on 3/5/2011 10:22:47 AM , Rating: 2
I'll give it to you that Microsoft has made some major mis-steps in recent history, but the word "demise" is seriously out of place when referring to them.

I remember hearing all these similar comments after Vista came out. It was the end of Microsoft. Look how unpopular ir was. etc, etc. Then Windows 7 happened - the fastest selling OS in history. Then Office 2010 - the fastest selling version of Office in history.

Yes, Microsoft did rest on its laurels for far too long, but all kicking them did was wake a sleeping giant. They've come tearing out of this, possibly being the most innovative and creative the company has ever been.

Windows Phone 7 is too early to call on, but so far it has done far better than most of the nay-sayers predicted. Its now unlikely to flop and fade into oblivion, even if its long term success is still unknown.

The thing you have to remember about Microsoft is that they've ALWAYS been late to the party. Windows wasn't the first GUI-based OS. XBOX wasn't the first games console. Microsoft are like a 10-ton gorilla. They have a proven track record of invading a market and bashing their way to the top of it. They are more than capable of doing so again.

Ballmer made some bad choices and it did hurt Microsoft, but it sure as hell hasn't shut them out of every new market. They may yet surprise us all.


RE: Industrial strength failure
By XZerg on 3/4/11, Rating: -1
RE: Industrial strength failure
By Smilin on 3/7/2011 4:45:45 PM , Rating: 1

Sharepoint, Dynamics CRM, Lync ... these things are setting records in time to $1 billion sales, number of users, etc.

As for how fast things are changing, Lync *IS* how fast things are changing. It sets the bar. Same for many many of their other products. Azure anyone?

Microsoft makes some 900 products and all but a small handful are industrial strength *successes*. Your problem Tony is you only think of Windows and Office. Guess what? Ballmer (or more precisely, Ray Ozzy) wrote those products off years ago as not being the future of Microsoft.


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