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President Obama will meet up today with three of the tech industry's top visionaries -- Google CEO Eric Schmidt, Apple CEO Steve Jobs, and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg.  (Source: Geek Daily)
President will discuss how to promote "innovation" with top tech luminaries

On Thursday in San Francisco, U.S. President Barack Obama plans to hold meetings with some of the tech industry's top names.  

According to the White House Press secretary [press release], "In the evening, the President will meet with a number of business leaders in technology and innovation at a private residence. The meeting is a part of our ongoing dialogue with the business community on how we can work together to win the future, strengthen our economy, support entrepreneurship, and get the American people back to work. The President and the business leaders will discuss our shared goal of promoting American innovation and discuss his commitment to new investments in research and development, education and clean energy."

Among those leaders he will be speaking with is Eric Schmidt.  Though Mr. Schmidt will be stepping down as Google's CEO later this year, he has orchestrated a brilliant smartphone campaign, propelling Google to the top spot in sales worldwide on an OS basis.

Mr. Schmidt has never been afraid to voice his mind.  Recently he expressed strong support of Google executive Wael Ghonim, who used the company's influence and technology to help Egyptian protestors to successfully organize and oust president/dictator Hosni Mubarak.

Another key tech figure meeting with the president will be Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg.  Despite public outcry over privacy problems and a less than favorable depiction in the recent blockbuster The Social Network, Mr. Zuckerberg remains perhaps the tech industry's most influential under-30 player.

And Mr. Obama is also expected to meet with Apple founder Steve Jobs.  If you've heard the National Enquirer's predictions of his impending demise, it appears they may be a bit off the mark.

Mr. Jobs, currently on medical leave, should be plenty healthy to talk to the president.  He should be returning to familiar territory for the meeting.  San Francisco is his typical stomping ground for product announcements.

The meeting will be the second between the President and Mr. Jobs on the economy in the past several months.

Last, but not least, the president is expected to meet with his chairman of the new White House Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt.



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Last I checked....
By Hieyeck on 2/17/2011 10:20:21 AM , Rating: 4
...Apple wasn't innovative. Ever. The mouse? Bunch of Xerox engineers (at least in the form we know it today) who had their idea shot down by people in the very position that these 3 hold today. Innovations in marketing are about its only claim.

Facebook? Proof that timing is everything. Myspace and various other sites launched before it.

Google was hardly the first search engine.

As the POTUS, why not just visit Area 51 or talk to DARPA :/




RE: Last I checked....
By Bioniccrackmonk on 2/17/11, Rating: 0
RE: Last I checked....
By woofersus on 2/17/2011 10:34:11 AM , Rating: 2
Have you been to Myspace lately? I'm not saying Facebook doesn't have issues to deal with, but Myspace is a black hole.


RE: Last I checked....
By Jeff7181 on 2/17/2011 10:58:18 AM , Rating: 5
Facebook's strength is that drugged up teens can't put flashy animated gifs and 42 videos and 86 songs on the page that all start playing at the same time.


RE: Last I checked....
By CZroe on 2/17/2011 5:19:48 PM , Rating: 5
Dammit!You've been voted up too high for me to add another up-vote. :)


RE: Last I checked....
By StraightCashHomey on 2/18/2011 3:24:36 PM , Rating: 3
6.


RE: Last I checked....
By superPC on 2/17/2011 10:51:01 AM , Rating: 5
or people from IBM, or Microsoft, or other tech company that really do something that moves the technology forward.

this is obviously a publicity stunt. even though IBM has the largest number of patent under their name, even though they just build a computer that can win jeopardy, even after helping build guidance computer that put MAN ON THE MOON, IBM is not a household name. that's why it doesn't get invited. as for MS, they've been doing some amazing stuff with kinect, the next windows, image composite editor, photosynth, and a whole bunch of other stuff from MS labs but still in the public minds they're the bad guys. that's why they're not invited.

boring corporate guys (IBM) and the bad guys (MS) don't sit well with the public and don't generate as much publicity as google, facebook or apple, even if they're the ones that really innovate.


RE: Last I checked....
By Suntan on 2/17/2011 11:46:41 AM , Rating: 2
Pretty much my thoughts when I read this.

The facebook guy, really? What’s he going to offer as far a federal guidance for moving the economy forward.

“Obama, you need to make a federal webpage where anybody can post a sentence that goes something like – ‘I’m watching a movie while eating a bowl if ice cream’ and then, Barack my man. The secret to sustainable long term economic growth… ready for it? You make it possible for some other Joe 6 Pack to add on that, ‘Joe P likes this.’ Bam! Instant fuel for economic expansion!”

-Suntan


RE: Last I checked....
By Wiggy Mcshades on 2/17/2011 2:25:46 PM , Rating: 1
IBM's number of patent's is just proof that they abused the system worse than anyone else. The RISC patent they have/had is an insult to every person who had some sort of academic pursuit. If you want any real advice (that works) you'd find the most pissed off engineers working at one of these companies and ask if any of them think they're being stolen from by showing up to work. The ones that answer yes will be able to tell you exactly how, where, and when to make changes that will positively effect education and innovation. Those are the only two valuable things we can competitively provide in the US for the foreseeable future and there's no CEO on earth who's going to tell you how to change them because it'd end up ruining the system that supports them.


RE: Last I checked....
By mellomonk on 2/17/2011 1:20:14 PM , Rating: 2
Innovation isn't always about being first to think about or prototype something. It can be about making something successful and useful for the first time. Creating and combining ideas and concepts, sometimes new, sometimes not, to create products and services that are useful, inspiring, entertaining. And have others follow your path.

Remember, pioneers get arrows in the backs, settlers get the land.


RE: Last I checked....
By Tony Swash on 2/17/11, Rating: 0
RE: Last I checked....
By Iaiken on 2/17/2011 2:47:15 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Incidentally I assume you are looking at this web site on a PC that allows you see different fonts on the screen, and in a window that can be resized and moved around - both Xerox innovations .


Fixed.

Apple and MS operating systems have always contained technology that was "stolen" from each other and yet others besides as they evolved. Some of this "theft" happened so long ago that the features have become part of the computing landscape.

http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/top-10-features...
http://www.infoworld.com/d/mac/top-10-features-mic...

Long before any of that, the GUI was a invented by engineers over at Xerox for the PARC; Apple merely licensed the technology. Microsoft then "stole" the idea of licensing the technology from Xerox and Apple as well for the privilege of bringing Windows 1.0 to the world.

Like it or not Tony, you're wrong again.


RE: Last I checked....
By Tony Swash on 2/18/2011 6:39:25 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Apple and MS operating systems have always contained technology that was "stolen" from each other and yet others besides as they evolved. Some of this "theft" happened so long ago that the features have become part of the computing landscape.

http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/top-10-features...
http://www.infoworld.com/d/mac/top-10-features-mic...

Long before any of that, the GUI was a invented by engineers over at Xerox for the PARC; Apple merely licensed the technology. Microsoft then "stole" the idea of licensing the technology from Xerox and Apple as well for the privilege of bringing Windows 1.0 to the world.


Such a tired old meme, almost as tired as the ever popular 'Apple is doomed " meme.

Making something in a lab is not the same as making something that is tens times cheaper, works much better, sells in their millions and actually changes the world - that much should be obvious.

But let's dig a little deeper and explore a little of what Apple 'copied' from Xerox.

When Apple saw the early Xerox GUI at Palo Alto in November 1979 they realised that the GUI was the future but the GUI they saw was hardly anything like the GUI that you and I use all the time. In the Xerox version if you wanted to move or resize a window, in fact if you wanted to pretty much do anything on the screen using the cursor you had to click and invoke a menu and then select the action you wanted to perform. This didn't just apply to window resizing, it applied to moving files (from one folder to another for example), opening a file etc. Everything was done by a menu invoked by a mouse click, nothing was done by using the cursor to directly manipulate objects on the screen.

Apple took the work at Xerox and transformed it into the fundamentals of the GUI grammar that we all use so much we hardly think about it anymore.

So every time you sit at your computer and click and drag something on the screen think of Apple and say a little thank you for their innovation.

Its true that the Apple team, led by Steve Jobs, who were given a tour of the Small Talk and Altos systems at Palo Alto in December 1979, were inspired and took that inspiration into the design of the Lisa and then into the Macintosh. But being inspired is not copying. Van Gogh was inspired by Gauguin but no one describes him as copying Gauguin.

The team from Apple saw the Smalltalk integrated programming environment, with the mouse selecting text, pop-up menus, windows, and so on. The Lisa group at Apple built a system based on their own ideas combined with what they could remember from the Smalltalk demo, and the Mac folks built yet another system. There is a significant difference between using the Mac and Smalltalk.

Smalltalk has no Finder, and no need for one, really. Drag-and- drop file manipulation came from the Mac group, along with many other unique concepts: resources and dual-fork files for storing layout and international information apart from code; definition procedures; drag-and-drop system extension and configuration; types and creators for files; direct manipulation editing of document, disk, and application names; redundant typed data for the clipboard; multiple views of the file system; desk accessories; and control panels, among others. The Lisa group invented some fundamental concepts as well: pull down menus, the imaging and windowing models based on QuickDraw, the clipboard, and cleanly internationalizable software.

Smalltalk had a three-button mouse and pop-up menus, in contrast to the Mac's menu bar and one-button mouse. Smalltalk didn't even have self-repairing windows - you had to click in them to get them to repaint, and programs couldn't draw into partially obscured windows. Bill Atkinson did not know this, so he invented regions as the basis of QuickDraw and the Window Manager so that he could quickly draw in covered windows and repaint portions of windows brought to the front.

As you may be gathering, the difference between the Xerox system architectures and Macintosh architecture is huge; much bigger than the difference between the Mac and Windows. It's not surprising, since Microsoft saw quite a bit of the Macintosh design (API's,sample code, etc.) during the Mac's development from 1981 to 1984; the intention was to help them write applications for the Mac, but it also gave their system designers a template from which to eventually design Windows.


RE: Last I checked....
By Iaiken on 2/18/2011 10:14:24 AM , Rating: 2
I didn't say that they copied it.

quote:
Long before any of that, the GUI was a invented by engineers over at Xerox for the PARC; Apple merely licensed the technology . Microsoft then "stole" the idea of licensing the technology from Xerox and Apple as well for the privilege of bringing Windows 1.0 to the world.


I've added boldness in an effort to counteract your inability to read and comprehend.

Without the licensing agreement from Xerox extending them express permission to go ahead, there is a good chance that Apple would have been sued into oblivion. I'm fine with giving credit where credit is due and like I said, there are features from all manner of OS that have since become ubiquitous parts of the computing landscape.

Tips for next time Tony:

1. Read each sentence within the context of the paragraph
2. Understand what you are reading
3. Write a response was written, not to what you wish were written.

Fail again Tony... fail again...


RE: Last I checked....
By sleepeeg3 on 2/17/2011 11:40:36 PM , Rating: 2
Pillars of innovation, those three. Fits right in with the pillar of fiscal responsibility...

Eh, Schmidt may be worth his salt. I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Not helping his rep, though.


RE: Last I checked....
By callmeroy on 3/10/2011 3:22:46 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry for the necro of the thread...but I just found it!

Anyway...yeah what you say might have some truth behind it...but .....

yet all three of those guys are worth BILLIONS and if they wanted to stop working tomorrow they could and just relax the rest of their lives and still die financially better off than any of us here in this thread can ever dream to be...


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