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Motorola's CEO spills the beans on Xoom pricing

Reuters today confirmed what we already know about the Motorola Xoom (3G/CDMA) -- it will be priced at $799 unsubsidized through Verizon. There will also be a Wi-Fi-only model available for $599. 

"Competing with Apple you have to deliver premium products," said Sanjay Jha, Chairman and CEO of Motorola Mobility.

The $799 price tag for the Xoom 3G will get you 32GB of storage space, a 10" display, and a dual-core processor. Despite it devilishly good looks and sleek Android 3.0 "Honeycomb" operating system, the data plans for the tablet may be a little bit harder to swallow. Data packages are reported to start at $20/month for a mere 1GB and top out at $80/month for 10GB. 

Motorola's Xoom will officially launch next Thursday. 

Jha also chimed in on the whole Nokia/Microsoft saga, stating, "I am as focused on Android as I ever have been. As a result of Nokia adopting Microsoft it's possible that some of the other players concentrate on Android," Jha continued. 

These comments come just a day after another Motorola exec expressed no interest in adopting Windows Phone 7 for its smartphones. "I don't envision us using Microsoft. I would never say never but it's not something we're entertaining now," said Verizon Corporate VP Christy Wyatt.



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Lets compare features...
By sleepeeg3 on 2/16/2011 2:32:15 PM , Rating: 3
I personally would rather own a laptop, but lets compare features...

Motorola Xoom WiFi (32GB)
-Price: $599
-10.1" display, 1280 x 800 @ 160dpi
-Processor: nVidia Tegra 2 dual-core
-OS: Android 3.0
-USB port(s)
-HDMI port
-5MP camera, 2MP video conferencing camera
-1080p playback support (scaled, of course)
-Sensors: accelerometer, compass, gyroscope, barometer

Apple iPad WiFi (32GB)
Price: $599
-9.7" display, 1024 x 768 @ 132dpi
-Processor - 1GHz ARM Cortex-A8 single-core
-OS: Apple something
-No USB ports
-No HDMI ports
-No cameras
-720p playback support
-Sensors: accelerometer, compass

Looks like the WiFi version blows the iPad out of the water. 3G, not so much...




RE: Lets compare features...
By StraightCashHomey on 2/16/2011 2:57:25 PM , Rating: 5
With the iPad, you get the Apple logo. That's worth a few boners.


RE: Lets compare features...
By headbox on 2/17/11, Rating: -1
RE: Lets compare features...
By madoka on 2/16/2011 3:16:21 PM , Rating: 4
You're absolutely right. The Xoom is totally feature and price competitive with the old gen ipad and will be for all of two weeks before the next gen ipad is released.

You don't gain market share against not just the market leader, but a near monopoly (Apple has about 75% of the tablet market) by pricing your product the same. The Xoom has FAIL written all over it and heads should roll for a blunder of this magnitude.


RE: Lets compare features...
By Netscorer on 2/16/2011 5:24:30 PM , Rating: 5
There is absolutely no reason for Motorola to fall over itself trying to underprice iPad. Tablet market is far from being saturated and at this time both vendors (plus bunch more) would find their customers without problem. Judging both tablets on the equal terms you would find that Honeycomb is a better OS then iOS, Jobs would rot in his grave before allowing USB or any non-proprietary connector, and for me, personally, not having to deal with iTunes is worth at least $100.


RE: Lets compare features...
By lennylim on 2/16/2011 3:26:24 PM , Rating: 5
It looks attractive when compared that way. However:

1. It won't be launched next Thursday. Actually, we don't know when it will be available.

2. It will be competing with iPad 2 - whatever the specs of that one is.


RE: Lets compare features...
By cmdrdredd on 2/17/2011 7:44:02 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It looks attractive when compared that way. However: 1. It won't be launched next Thursday. Actually, we don't know when it will be available. 2. It will be competing with iPad 2 - whatever the specs of that one is.


From my reading the Android marketplace won't be available on the Xoom. Instead you have Motorola's version with only approved and tested apps on it. Meaning that the thousands of apps on your phone probably don't even work on the new OS and new device. Apple has this in the bag really. They have many thousands of apps that work right now, and every iphone app also works on the ipad.


RE: Lets compare features...
By kmmatney on 2/16/2011 6:07:02 PM , Rating: 2
I don't get why adding 3G adds $200, and then you have to pay an ungodly sum to actually use the 3G. The carrier should subsidize the 3G portion, since they will be making the oney when people use it.

The iPad data plans start at $15 for 250 MB and $25 for 2 GB. The $15 is a great option if you just want to check emails, and do light surfing while traveling. They need to at least have some low cost options like that.


RE: Lets compare features...
By Tony Swash on 2/17/2011 6:49:19 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I personally would rather own a laptop, but lets compare features...

Motorola Xoom WiFi (32GB)
-Price: $599
-10.1" display, 1280 x 800 @ 160dpi
-Processor: nVidia Tegra 2 dual-core
-OS: Android 3.0
-USB port(s)
-HDMI port
-5MP camera, 2MP video conferencing camera
-1080p playback support (scaled, of course)
-Sensors: accelerometer, compass, gyroscope, barometer

Apple iPad WiFi (32GB)
Price: $599
-9.7" display, 1024 x 768 @ 132dpi
-Processor - 1GHz ARM Cortex-A8 single-core
-OS: Apple something
-No USB ports
-No HDMI ports
-No cameras
-720p playback support
-Sensors: accelerometer, compass

Looks like the WiFi version blows the iPad out of the water. 3G, not so much...


Leaving aside the value of comparing this years product with last years release it's worth remembering that specs don't mean much in the real world.

I know techies love spec lists it makes the world seem an orderly and safe sort of place. But spec list mean almost nothing in relation to how well a particular product does. What matters to consumers is a whole package of complex and interrelated factors that make up the value of the product. In that complex package of attributes some things will be weighted more than others (price is a good example) and some consumers may value some things more than others. But what really matters is the total effect of the total stack of value a consumer gets from a product. Let's list the sort of extra value a consumer gets from an iPad compared to any of the current batch of Android tablets trundling towards the market place.

a) The iOS is extremely polished. Most non-affiliated neutral observers say the iOS is more polished than the current versions of tablet and phone Android OS. The difference is not huge but it is there and people handling competing tablets, iOS versus Android, will notice that one OS is more polished than the other.

b) Brand. iPad now has very high brand recognition. The Android competing brands have far less well known brands and the there are many competing brands in the fragmented Android tablet market.

c) A reputation for quality. One may argue that this is deserved or undeserved but if Apple again and again tops reliability and customer service polls consumers will and do notice. Any consumer researching a possible purchase would come across this unambiguous message based on polls and surveys and not press releases.

d) A top class retail network. The Apple stores are one of the most successful retail operations on the planet and any visit to one would show the way that the stores both showcase the Apple products, allow purchaser to play with possible purchases and give them the opportunity to interact with apparently unhurried and helpful staff. The experience of interacting with an Apple retail store is often very much better than interacting with other electronic retail stores.

e) Apple's App Store is the best. It is the most vibrant, the biggest has the largest group of developers. Finding, buying and installing apps is super easy and is done via an interface (iTunes) familiar to many hundreds of millions of consumers.

f) Media content. An iPad user finds an easily accessed and familiar interface for accessing the largest music and digital media business on any tablet. Finding, buying and consuming this huge library is easy on an iPad, again done done via an interface (iTunes) familiar to many.

g) Existing digital content commitment. Many consumers have been building a library of apps, music, film, TV shows, etc bought via iTunes and don't want to lose this valuable investment by switching away from Apple (much like photographers lens collections tie them to a particular camera body)

h) Customer have been "trained" via the Apple product gradient. Apple has sold over 250 million iPods (the most popular iPod is the iPod Touch which runs the same iOS as on the iPad ) and over 50 million iPhones so countless millions of consumers have grown used to using iOS and accessing the iTunes interface and already have active accounts ready to go from the moment they purchase the iPad. The music player of the iPad is a built in iPod, again known and understood by many millions. All this means for many, many consumers buying the iPad seems safe, familiar and a logical and obvious step.

i) There are far more accessories for the iPad. This means many more cases, stands, speakers, chargers, FM broadcasters, interface solutions, etc, than any other tablet. This adds enormous value to the iPad from the customers point of view (the iPad is "compatible" the other tablets are not) and is because Apple represents for accessory makers a large market of potential customers using a predictable physical form factor to target and the same manufacturers have often already developed an Apple orientated business working with iPods and iPhones so many have found adding iPad accessories an easy step.

Finally it is worth pointing out that again that Apple have one of the best run supply side and production operations on the planet, they planned for the iPad for a long time. Beating Apple significantly on price with out a serious deterioration of build quality is going to be very heard indeed. See this for an example

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110216PD219.html


Ridiculous data plans....
By dijuremo on 2/16/2011 12:22:47 PM , Rating: 5
Who in their right mind would pay $80/month for a 10GB cap. In that case simply buy the Clear hot spot device and pay $49/month for unlimited for any devices around you with Wifi.

I guess these cell phone companies clearly do not want people's business with those outrageous charges for data.




RE: Ridiculous data plans....
By MozeeToby on 2/16/2011 1:01:07 PM , Rating: 2
$8 per GB is insane, and that's generously assuming you use the full 10GB every month. Forget SSDs, you could build a controller that takes sticks of ram instead of a hard drive and it would very nearly be cheaper to supply it with RAM than it would be to fill it with information over that link. Insane is the only word that even begins to describe it.


RE: Ridiculous data plans....
By 1reader on 2/16/2011 1:54:40 PM , Rating: 2
Even though I kinda like the hardware for this tablet, I hope it fails and fails hard. Vote with your dollars, or lack thereof.


RE: Ridiculous data plans....
By DanNeely on 2/16/2011 1:14:20 PM , Rating: 2
Anyone buying a VZW standalone dataplan. 10GB for $80 is their top plan for a 3/4G USB modem; their other plan is 5GB for $50(?). They're currently not making any distinction between 3 and 4g data pricing.


RE: Ridiculous data plans....
By mcnabney on 2/16/2011 2:35:04 PM , Rating: 2
You do understand that AT&T have the exact same data plan rates?

$35/3GB
$50/5GB
$80/10GB

The only difference is that Verizon isn't going to charge more for LTE.


RE: Ridiculous data plans....
By MozeeToby on 2/16/2011 2:50:12 PM , Rating: 3
Who needs to charge more when your users can use up their full monthly allowance in a whopping 2.5 hours. (Assuming an average down speed of 9 Mbps as per Gizmondo's tests and the full 10 GB limit). These kinds of data caps are just plain broken.


RE: Ridiculous data plans....
By DanNeely on 2/16/2011 6:22:19 PM , Rating: 2
Since this is a Verizon network device I felt that their plans were much more relevant to the competition than anyone else's.


it priced competitively
By superPC on 2/16/2011 12:25:45 PM , Rating: 3
it uses most of the same component as in viewsonic g tablet. and that is priced at 450$. so xoom is not that bad (considering it will have better screen and better build). it's also competitive with apple and upgradeable to 4G (firmware upgrade i presume).

but still this is not for me. i'm eagerly awaits samsung sliding pc 7 http://www.dailytech.com/Samsung+Shows+Off+TabletN... ...




RE: it priced competitively
By micksh on 2/16/11, Rating: 0
RE: it priced competitively
By quiksilvr on 2/16/2011 1:17:05 PM , Rating: 2
I have to agree. Why is it $200 more just to get 3G connectivity? It isn't even LTE! It should be $499 for the 32GB and $599 for the 32GB with 3G.


RE: it priced competitively
By mcnabney on 2/16/2011 2:39:47 PM , Rating: 3
Who on earth would want a netbook that 'tries' to run Windows 7 Premium on a 1.6ghz Atom?


By StraightCashHomey on 2/16/2011 2:59:32 PM , Rating: 2
I wish they'd have a Win 7 Professional or Enterprise offering for domain support.


So much for the "Apple always costs more" argument
By Commodus on 2/16/2011 2:58:24 PM , Rating: 2
We knew this was likely, but it's pretty telling that the Xoom costs $70 more than an equivalent 3G iPad -- and the new iPad will likely be very close in features. Not to mention that there's no 16GB Xoom to get the price down.

The irony? The Xoom on 3G will require paying for at least one month of 3G (plus activation) just to use the Wi-Fi; Verizon's disabling Wi-Fi on it until you do. A 3G iPad comes unlocked and fully usable even if you never touch AT&T.

So much for Android being open and cheaper.




By Red Storm on 2/16/2011 3:20:25 PM , Rating: 3
Last I checked the Xoom was made not by Google (makers of Android), but by Motorola. The issue is with them and/or Verizon, not Google or Android.


BUY A NOOK COLOR
By Mitch101 on 2/16/2011 1:16:02 PM , Rating: 2
The Nook Color is $250.00 and can be rooted and Android loaded onto it. Android 3.0 is still a work in progress but close to being done for the Nook.

Its about as powerful at the Droid-X devices. More power than the first gen iPad, faster than the samsung tablets, capacitive touch screen (Pinch etc), and higher DPI on a 7" screen compared to the 9.7" iPad. Has a USB and SD Micro slot. The google marketplace works on it.

Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEw3bs5Xybw




RE: BUY A NOOK COLOR
By johnbuk on 2/16/2011 1:31:36 PM , Rating: 2
I have a Nook Color (bought just because of the support it's getting) and the version of Honeycomb that has been ported to it is not "just about done". Don't get me wrong- the fact that DP was able to do what he did with his port of Honeycomb is amazing- but it's definitely incomplete at this time. I'm running Froyo on mine for the time being just because the port of Froyo for the Nook is "more complete" right now, but it's definitely not as tablet friendly as Honeycomb and I'm sure soon after the Xoom gets released a more complete version of Honeycomb will be in the cards for the Nook.


By ranran on 2/16/2011 3:08:59 PM , Rating: 3
Well, I've been avidly following the NI Adam for a while. I haven't parted with my dollars yet for one, waiting to see how they do with customer support and updates - but so far 3 updates have been released, 2nd pre-order is done and it continues to improve. Oh and lets not forget the price tag -
$375 LCD
$499 Pixel Qi
Add $50 for 3G on either

Tegra 2, usb, HDMI, etc. etc. are all there. If they continue as they have, this will be the tablet to beat.... until Tegra3 comes, that is. :)




Ummm
By kleinma on 2/16/2011 3:33:21 PM , Rating: 2
I know vzw and motorola are both win 7 phone haters but what is up with the last paragraph? Why does it say verizon?




By vision33r on 2/16/2011 9:32:16 PM , Rating: 2
$799 I rather get an Alienware m11x that can play COD and WOW.

The reason Xoom will fail because the main reason the iPad gained traction is due to it's attractive price.

Once you still hitting $600+ there are very few that are willing to pay that much just for an internet pad.

There are hardly any Android apps at the launch and more apps aren't likely going to be as competitive when we are looking at 2nd gen iPad apps out and Apple even has their own 1st tier iPad apps.




Not beating Apple on price
By Tony Swash on 2/16/2011 2:56:26 PM , Rating: 1
Apple have one of the best run supply side and production operations on the planet, they planned for the iPad for a long time. The iPad 2 first builds were already being tested at Apple as the iPad version 1 was being launched and the long term supply pipeline was put into place well in advance. As a result Apple priced the iPad very aggressively and still makes a handsome profit per unit. It will be very difficult to beat Apple on price and make a profit. Factor in Apple's integrated eco-system (common OS across devices, established and global easy payments system, retail outlets, the largest Apps library, the largest Media library etc) which add a lot of value to their products along with a cutting edge price and the other tablet makers will struggle to compete. Many will exit the market by 2012.




By davmat787 on 2/16/2011 10:09:37 PM , Rating: 1
Carriers have way too much power in the US mobile market. They don't even innovate really, I wish they would stick to moving packets as fast and efficiently as possible, and be device agnostic.

Imagine where we would be today if every PC, console, TV, DVR, etc needed a separate "internet plan" with a shitty cap?




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