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Nokia plans on phasing out Symbian in favor of Windows Phone 7, which will likely propel Microsoft into the number 2 spot in global smart phone sales by OS.  (Source: Nokia via Engadget)

With Microsoft focusing on providing a slick OS for its phones, Nokia can focus on its hardware fully, for the first time in some time.  (Source: Genius Reviews)
Nokia's new CEO also fires back against criticism by Google

While Symbian isn't exactly a household name in America, for years it sat on top of global smart phone sales, thanks to market leader Nokia's support.  With today's announcement of a strategic partnership with Microsoft, Symbian's owner Nokia let slip a market-moving detail: it is phasing out Symbian for Windows Phone 7.

And just like that Windows Phone 7 has been slated to, in all likelihood, claim the #2 spot  in smart phone global sales by operating system.

I. Becoming a Giant Overnight

The decision to phase out Symbian was revealed in a slide deck presented by Nokia's new CEO Stephen Elop and Nokia CFO, Timo Ihamuotila, at Nokia's Capital Markets Day.

Nokia will continue to support Meego, its joint Linux smart phone OS which it is developing with Intel.  But Meego will only be on a small selection of handsets, where as Windows Phone 7 will be loaded on the majority of Nokia smart phones, according to illustrations in the deck.

It can not be discounted the role Mr. Elop's former executive position at Microsoft played in the two companies coming together.  However, beyond any personal connections, the move makes sense on a number of levels for both firms.  

For Microsoft it's a complete game changer.  Rather than have to chip away and slowly rise in market share like Android, it's punched an instant ticket to the big time.  And with updates soon airing to smooth out its OS's rough edges, Microsoft looks to be in a very, very good position.  It may still lack a handful of features found in iOS and Android, but it arguably offers the most innovative and intuitive interface on the market today.  And its app market is rapidly expanding, further remedying one of its few remaining weaknesses.

For Nokia the move is also a huge opportunity.  As the recent slip to number 2 showed, people aren't exactly very enthusiastic about Symbian anymore.  With its OS budget dramatically slashed over the next few years, Nokia indicates that it will focus more on hardware.  This could be just what the doctor ordered, for the world's struggling largest phone maker.  And the partnership with Microsoft should allow it to expand its smart phone offerings and visibility in the large U.S. market -- a place where it has struggled in recent years.

Probably the biggest risk is for Microsoft to alienate its other partners, like HTC, LG, and Samsung.  All the Nokia hoopla may turn them off and make them devote more effort to Android -- or it could have little effect.  Which is the case remains to be seen.

II. Nokia Fires Back at Google Over "Turkey" Remark

In related news, Nokia CEO Stephen Elop lit up Twitter with a sharp-witted response to Google's earlier insult.  This morning Google engineer Vic Gundrota posted, "two turkeys don't make an eagle, but at least the consumer will have more choice for the menu, as #nokia goes windows"

Showcasing his sound knowledge of American history, Mr. Elop fired back [post], "Or this: Two bicycle makers, from Dayton Ohio, one day decide to fly."

It seems a bit unfair to label Windows Phone 7 a turkey given its radical reinvention of the Windows smart phone platform and relatively short evaluation period on the market.  Whether it's a turkey or an eagle should be seen in a couple of years -- after all, Android looked as much or more like a "turkey" in its first year or so on the market as Windows Phone 7 might today.

More than likely the typically reserved Google is lashing out, based on a bit of discomfort.  Before it seemed to have no real competition for the world #1 spot in the smart phone race.  Apple was unlikely to challenge it, as it was forever constrained to a single proprietary handset model.  And a sinking Nokia seemed equally unlikely to challenge.

Now a resurgent Nokia is back and will soon be offering handsets with a hot new OS -- Windows Phone 7.  The picture has changed dramatically, overnight.

Thus, much like Apple noisily berated Google as Android emerged as a true challenger to iOS in 2010, Google's mud-flinging appears to be found in a bit of frustration and concern.  Amusing commentary aside, it's a sign that Google is taking this merger seriously -- and is likely more than a little worried.

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RE: Good.
By Tony Swash on 2/11/2011 12:02:05 PM , Rating: -1
It's for the better anyways... Microsoft has always been good about planning these thing's and Nokia didn't really have a choice, they need something competitive. They have a great developing WP7 platform. People change and so do the trends.

Good at planning? What about implementation?

This from the Asymco site
In memoriam: Microsoft’s previous strategic mobile partners

Microsoft’s new “strategic partnership” with Nokia is not its first. For a decade the software company has courted and consummated relationships with a variety of companies in mobile and telecom. Here are the ones I can remember:

LG. In February 2009 Microsoft Corp. signed a multiyear agreement for Windows Mobile to be included on devices from LG Electronics Inc. LG would use Windows Mobile as its “primary platform” for smartphones and produce about 50 models running the software.

What happened? LG made a few Windows Mobile devices but with WinMo uncompetitive, they abandoned the platform and moved to Android losing years of market presence and all their profits.

Motorola. In September 2003, Motorola and Microsoft announced an alliance to. “Starting with the introduction of the new Motorola MPx200 mobile phone with Microsoft Windows Mobile software, the companies will collaborate on a series of Smartphone and Pocket PC wireless devices designed to create a virtual “remote control” for the Web-centric, work-centric, always-on-the-go mobile professional.” In addition, the alliance includes cooperation on joint marketing and wireless developer programs.

What happened? Motorola launched a series of Windows Mobile phones culminating in the Motorola Q “Blackberry killer”. As Motorola hit the rocks in profitability new management reached for the Android liferaft. The company now relies exclusively on the Droid franchise.

Palm. In September 2005 Palm and Microsoft announced a strategic alliance to “accelerate the Smartphone market segment with a new device for mobile professionals and businesses. Palm has licensed the Microsoft Windows Mobile operating system for an expanded line of Treo Smartphones, the first of which will be available on Verizon Wireless’ national wireless broadband network.”

What happened? Palm shipped a few Windows Mobile, famously dismissing Apple’s potential entry as something “PC guys” could never achieve. A new CEO, a private placement and an acquisition later the company is a division of HP making its own operating system.

Nortel. When Steve Ballmer was famously laughing at the iPhone and saying that he likes the Windows Mobile strategy “a lot” he was sitting next to the then-CEO of Nortel (Mike Zafirovski formerly of Motorola) with whom the company had just closed a strategic deal. ”an alliance between Microsoft and Nortel announced in July 2006 … includes three new joint solutions to dramatically improve business communications by breaking down the barriers between voice, e-mail, instant messaging, multimedia conferencing and other forms of communication”.

What happened? Nortel declared bankruptcy two years later.

Verizon. In January 2009 “Verizon Wireless has selected Microsoft Corp. to provide portal, local and Internet search as well as mobile advertising services to customers on its devices. The five-year agreement will go into effect in the first half of 2009 when Microsoft Live Search is targeted to be available on new Verizon Wireless feature phones and smartphones.” The deal would ensure Bing distribution to all of Verizon’s smartphone customers.

What happened? Bing did ship on some devices but in October 2009 Droid came to Verizon.

RE: Good.
By omnicronx on 2/11/2011 1:12:32 PM , Rating: 2
Please Troll.. go crawl back into whatever hole you just came out of.

Half the BS you just posted is not even correct. Especially the little tidbit about Nortel at the bottom. Going bankrupt had absolutely NOTHING to do with Microsoft.

RE: Good.
By Tony Swash on 2/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: Good.
By omnicronx on 2/11/2011 2:28:53 PM , Rating: 3
The article is clearly bias.

Look at the 'What happened' section of each partnership. Every other section shows why MS's ties with their partners lead to them no longer using MS products. (lets not get into the fact that timelines done line up, certain facts are incorrect and some of the responses don't make any sense)

So please enlighten me as to what exactly they are trying to imply in the Nortel portion other than trying to make a cheap shot?

It even seems to get lazier as the article goes on. How is "Bing did ship on some devices but in October 2009 Droid came to Verizon." even a response? It does not even make any sense.

RE: Good.
By Luticus on 2/11/2011 2:46:23 PM , Rating: 2
yum yum, troll cookies :)

They should hang a sign that says don't feed the trolls on DT :D I can't ever resist either, don't feel bad...

Personally i recall a young apple lying face down in the gutter before the return of jobs. I think we can put "track records" aside... they obviously don't mean much.

RE: Good.
By Tony Swash on 2/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: Good.
By Cheesew1z69 on 2/11/2011 4:08:57 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Good.
By bigboxes on 2/13/2011 9:12:16 PM , Rating: 1
Welcome back, reader1. :eyeroll:

RE: Good.
By Smilin on 2/11/2011 3:36:38 PM , Rating: 3
The Nortel deal was related to unified communications not smartphones.

It produced the only dual forking (RCC + Enterprise Voice) approved IPPBX the CS1000. Dual forking is significant because it bridges the Cisco/Avaya dominated RCC space and the more advanced Microsoft owned Enterprise voice other words it allows Microsoft to poach customers that already have significant investment in competitor products.

Nortel is gone (snatched up by Avaya or gone under can't remember) but Microsoft is now crushing the #2 Cisco in the Unified Communications world. Lotus isn't even dust on the horizon anymore.

I'm not sure about the rest of the track record but this particular partnership was a well executed move by MSFT.

RE: Good.
By omnicronx on 2/11/2011 1:23:47 PM , Rating: 2
FYI This comes from the same people that claimed in december that 'Android not helping Verizon fight the iPhone'.

RE: Good.
By Da W on 2/11/2011 2:35:57 PM , Rating: 2
You spend post and post bitching against Microsoft these last few days. What's your goal in it?

RE: Good.
By omnicronx on 2/11/2011 2:48:44 PM , Rating: 2
The last few days ha!.. he only ever responds to MS and Apple articles, and has been doing so far at least a year heh.

Also known resident DT Apple troll..

In fact I should slap myself for even answering his posts...

RE: Good.
By Tony Swash on 2/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: Good.
By Luticus on 2/11/2011 4:13:00 PM , Rating: 5
First off, you never have to do anything. The computing market hasn't ever been Microsoft exclusive. Microsoft may be dominating the desktop space but it's not the only game in town, never was.

Second, for a company that produces "third rate software" it's a wonder to me why it's office and operating system products are kicking the crap out of FREE ALTERNATIVES all day long. Interesting...

the great beached whale looks like it might be slowly dying.

Good luck with that...

RE: Good.
By Tony Swash on 2/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: Good.
By maven81 on 2/14/2011 2:22:46 PM , Rating: 5
"I worked in a large organisation (10,000 employees) Windows and Office were obligatory for eight fucking hours every day of my working life. This was an experience shared by millions of other people. Nobody chose Windows at work, that was all that was on offer. I was a Mac user the whole time so I knew exactly how inferior and awful the Microsoft stuff was but still I had to face it every day of the working week."

And I worked in a large ad agency that had 500 mac users. So did they not have a support staff because mac is all flowers and rainbows and "just works" or was it a bigger nightmare then supporting PC users? I'll give you 1 guess.
Currently I work in a place where I'm forced to work on a mac 8 hours a day. There's no real reason for this since all the adobe applications I use work just as well on a PC and sometimes BETTER. But I'm forced to use this fisher price "my first OS" crap that has such a hard time with things like memory management that often the computer will freeze for 20 seconds at a time. It has a hard time talking to the windows network (and the retards that designed this OS chose to use an image of a PC with a blue screen as an icon for the windows machines, really classy stuff). I could list a million things about it that make me want to throw this thing out the window every day. So don't tell me how it's superior.

RE: Good.
By sxr7171 on 2/12/2011 11:34:10 PM , Rating: 2
The FREE alternatives are worth what they cost. It would takes many millions to try to even try to wrestle away MS's monopoly in those areas. Yes, that's how powerful being in that position is. How can you use anything other than Office if you expect to get by in the world?

RE: Good.
By FITCamaro on 2/13/2011 11:47:40 AM , Rating: 2
Don't see why not. You don't need Outlook to send email. You don't need Word or Excel to make spreadsheets. Open Office is compatible (not saying its as good. no where close).

Google Docs is coming on strong as well.

Microsoft is just the standard that everyone else has to develop to. But for many of people, they don't NEED the complexity of Office. They just don't know anything else.

I use it because my company does and I can get it for nothing.

RE: Good.
By semiconshawn on 2/11/2011 4:46:13 PM , Rating: 3
Dying with record profits. My kinda of dying. If I was you I would rant and cry as well. Looks like the company you have nightmares about just became a HUGE player in the mobile sector overnight. Pee your pants little man the boogie man commeth......

RE: Good.
By Tony Swash on 2/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: Good.
By semiconshawn on 2/11/2011 6:10:26 PM , Rating: 2
Wow what a pointless exercise. You want to poll about 2yrs from now? I say 150%. Ill meet you here in 2 YEARS to see who is right. bwahaha.

RE: Good.
By Tony Swash on 2/12/11, Rating: 0
RE: Good.
By sxr7171 on 2/12/2011 11:54:04 PM , Rating: 2
They could in 6 months if they really are on the ball and 12 months if they are slacking. I would agree with you on that. If they know what's best for them 6 months is what they would do. But one thing you are forgetting the immense brand recognition Nokia enjoys worldwide. Sadly most of these are dumbphones. However, nobody can put inexpensive hardware in the hands of people like Nokia can. So they do have to find ways to make basic WP7 phones and also some compelling high end WP7 phones. Clearly they have some history in both arenas. This could play out in any number of ways, but if these companies are serious it does have the potential to be a major contender. For MS this is potentially a near instant 30% global smartphone share. It just has to be implemented with some dedication. The rapid changes are a good sign. If both parties leverage this deal to the maximum, it could accomplish much more than you expect.

RE: Good.
By sxr7171 on 2/12/11, Rating: 0
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