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AMD benefitting from Intel's $1B mistake

Intel must be the gift that keeps on giving to AMD. In late 2009, Intel was forced to pay AMD $1.25B for its years of monopolistic behavior in the processor market. Now, AMD is benefiting directly from Intel's Series 6 (Cougar Point) chipset woes

In late January, Intel explained that it had uncovered a SATA problem with Cougar Point that could cause performance degradation over time. As a result, Intel stopped shipment of the affected chipsets, will take a charge of roughly $1B, and won't start shipping updated chipsets to its partners until later this month (volume shipments to customers will come later).

Not surprisingly, AMD is profiting greatly from Intel's gaffe according to Fox Business News. "We have some customers and retailers who have come to us specifically as a result of Intel's chip problem," stated AMD exec Leslie Sobon. "Some retailers have had to take things off their shelves, so they call us to ask what they could get from our OEMs that's similar. And OEMs are asking us for product, as well." 

Fox Business News goes on to report that computer manufacturers that sell both Intel and AMD systems are coming to the latter to supply more processors/chipsets to make up for the shortfall due to the Cougar Point woes. 

AMD earlier this year unveiled its Fusion processors that feature onboard DirectX 11 graphics. AMD says that netbooks using the chipset will have over 10 hours of battery life.

AMD has also been in the news recently thanks to the ouster of Dirk Meyer as CEO. Meyer was removed from his position due to a lack of vision when it comes to mobile computing devices like smartphones and tablets.



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RE: Serves them right...
By Belard on 2/9/2011 10:24:41 AM , Rating: 5
UH.... your AMD history is screwed up.

Your talking about CPU types, If a new CPU comes out in which its FSB exceeded a chipsets ability, then its a problem that requires a new board. But overall, for Socket-A - the last Socket A type boards would run every Socket A cpu ever made.

754 was a stupid thing, not as bad as 940. This was time to market issues. 754 wasn't crap and actually lasted about 3 years, far longer than intel's 1st gen i3-5-7. Socket 939 lasted a very very long time and the reason it retired was that it didn't support DDR2, how could it?

AMD's AM2~AM2+~AM3 have worked great. If you bought an AM2 CPU, it would work on AM2~AM2+ boards. AM2 CPUs don't work with DDR3. See?
AM3 CPUs work on AM2+ and AM3 boards. Thats pretty cool.

So, unlike intel - AMD keeps their sockets far more compatible and longer than intel.

How about the first Pentium 4 CPUs? It was the dumbest thing people bought. Really, it was marketed by intel fans and corp "Buy the P4 for the future". uh, okay... not.
A) P4s were slower than AMD and P3 CPUs, until it hit at least 2Ghz.
B) You paid out the nose for RD-RAM
C) First Socket 423 (sp?) had about a 9month life-span... no CPU or mobo support after socket 478.

So how exactly was buying the first P4s, an investment into the future? It wasn't. Intel made a boat load of money off junk.

The i3-5-7 sockets are a nice mess. I5 or i7 series CPUs can fit into two different types of sockets, depending on which one you got. For many, the 6core option wasn't going to happen. Meanwhile, AMD AM3 sockets works with 6core CPUs.

Now a 2nd gen of i3-5-7 CPUs which require totally incompatible socket & motherboards are out. Making that $300 ASUS mobo totally USELESS for an upgrade. A typical upper end AMD mobo, with similar feature sets go for $100.

When AMD's Bulldozer comes out, it will require a new socket... AM3+
Its a vastly different chip than the current AMD Line, but still uses DDR3. Bulldozer won't work on AM3 boards, but AM3 CPUs will work in AM3+ boards. So getting SATA 6GB, USB3, modern mobo to work with a complete range of CPUs... is good for the industry and the consumer. Why? As a PC manufacture, a single board/socket model is needed to sell AMD products. Low-end to high end.

For the intel line, there are currently 4 different Socket types for gen1 and gen2 i3-5-7 CPUs that have to be managed. Run out of one type of board, theres a problem.

Needless to say, Core2, Corei5(gen1) won't fit or work on any of the latest Intel boards.


RE: Serves them right...
By BSMonitor on 2/9/11, Rating: -1
RE: Serves them right...
By omnicronx on 2/9/2011 4:14:07 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
LOL, Core i3, Core i5, and some Core i7's have gone through 3 such major north bridge changes caused by integration on the CPU die. F
And your point is? Does that change anything he said? Is the the problem of the consumer that Intel waited so long to do things such as put the memory controller on die? And then soon after quickly shift to GPU on die?

The fact remains, AMD's products over the last many years have had a great track record of backwards compatibility, and regardless Intel's reasonings, they have not.


RE: Serves them right...
By BSMonitor on 2/10/11, Rating: -1
RE: Serves them right...
By omnicronx on 2/10/2011 12:02:50 PM , Rating: 3
Yes bud, I take the time and log onto a bunch of accounts just to rate you down.(in spite of course)

As though I care about the DT rating systems or what people think of my posts.

The argument that AMD has not changed anything just makes me laugh, AMD has had their memory controller on die since 2005. As a result they were ahead of Intel so they did not have too, are you seriously trying to imply that is a bad thing?

Your CPU architecture comment is also incorrect. K7,K8,K10's all had significant changes. There were more if you consider non significant changes. (and thats all within the last 6 years)


RE: Serves them right...
By BSMonitor on 2/11/11, Rating: -1
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