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AMD benefitting from Intel's $1B mistake

Intel must be the gift that keeps on giving to AMD. In late 2009, Intel was forced to pay AMD $1.25B for its years of monopolistic behavior in the processor market. Now, AMD is benefiting directly from Intel's Series 6 (Cougar Point) chipset woes

In late January, Intel explained that it had uncovered a SATA problem with Cougar Point that could cause performance degradation over time. As a result, Intel stopped shipment of the affected chipsets, will take a charge of roughly $1B, and won't start shipping updated chipsets to its partners until later this month (volume shipments to customers will come later).

Not surprisingly, AMD is profiting greatly from Intel's gaffe according to Fox Business News. "We have some customers and retailers who have come to us specifically as a result of Intel's chip problem," stated AMD exec Leslie Sobon. "Some retailers have had to take things off their shelves, so they call us to ask what they could get from our OEMs that's similar. And OEMs are asking us for product, as well." 

Fox Business News goes on to report that computer manufacturers that sell both Intel and AMD systems are coming to the latter to supply more processors/chipsets to make up for the shortfall due to the Cougar Point woes. 

AMD earlier this year unveiled its Fusion processors that feature onboard DirectX 11 graphics. AMD says that netbooks using the chipset will have over 10 hours of battery life.

AMD has also been in the news recently thanks to the ouster of Dirk Meyer as CEO. Meyer was removed from his position due to a lack of vision when it comes to mobile computing devices like smartphones and tablets.

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RE: Serves them right...
By RjBass on 2/9/2011 10:17:08 AM , Rating: 5
I have an AM2/AM2+ board that I just upgraded from and Athlon 64 X2 to a Phenom II X3 and the upgrade was flawless. My buddy just finally switched from a socket 939 board to a AM2/AM2+/AM3 board. He can still use his DDR2 RAM, he got my Athlon 64 X2 and he can upgrade to a Phenom II X6 if he wants using a socket AM3 CPU. AMD has made it so easy to upgrade with their recent boards that switching to Intel for me or most of my friends would cost hundreds if not a thousand more dollars when we can just spend 1 or 2 hundred with a smaller simple upgrade and still achieve awesome performance. The only time in the last ten years that I have complained about AMD's sockets was when i purchased a socket 754 board that they quickly abandoned. Since then it has been all good.

RE: Serves them right...
By silverblue on 2/9/2011 11:02:22 AM , Rating: 3
754 was single-channel. I think AMD quickly realised that the Athlon64 could really make use of the extra channel.

RE: Serves them right...
By DanNeely on 2/9/2011 11:22:41 AM , Rating: 1
939 launched when AMD made the first x2 processors. A single DDR1 channel couldn't feed both cores. IIRC there were minimal gains for 939 single core CPUs.

RE: Serves them right...
By Cheesew1z69 on 2/9/2011 1:14:27 PM , Rating: 2
So you are saying it came out when X2 was released? I am pretty sure it came out before the X2 as they released single core when 939 was out.

RE: Serves them right...
By Indigo64 on 2/9/2011 4:33:28 PM , Rating: 3
Almost accurate.

Socket 939 was the answer to AMD's socket 754 "negative" of being able to only use one channel of memory at the time. Since Intel was using dual channels on the P4 platform, AMD needed an answer to fulfill the enthusiast market (more or less) and thus came Socket 939.

Since AMD had just perfected the Opteron at the time (Socket 940) and wanted to give folks on the non-server side an option for dual channel loving without needing to use Registered RAM meant for servers, Socket 939 was introduced.

The first Athlon 64's that inhabited 939 were the slightly faster (both in terms of clock and cache) single core Athlon 64's. The dual cores then followed, such as the Athlon 64 X2 3800+, 4200, 4400, 4600, etc.

On a personal note, It was a great platform at the time. I owned several 939 chips, and my current server 2008 R2 box uses a 4600+ to this day.

RE: Serves them right...
By Taft12 on 2/9/11, Rating: -1
RE: Serves them right...
By Tegrat on 2/9/2011 11:44:30 AM , Rating: 2
Asrock 939DualSata2 had an AM2 Riser card that supported DDR2 and AM2.....

RE: Serves them right...
By RjBass on 2/9/2011 11:48:27 AM , Rating: 2
Not true at all. Later 939 boards including boards manufactured in 2008 and 2009 supported both DDR and DDR2 as the 939 chips had the memory controllers for both, or it was written into the chipset (not sure which). Regardless my buddies old board had two slots for DDR RAM and two slots for DDR2.

RE: Serves them right...
By Alexvrb on 2/9/2011 4:33:08 PM , Rating: 3
No, he's right. Google is your friend. Socket 939 CPUs have an IMC that only supports DDR1. This has NOTHING to do with the motherboard. The IMC (integrated memory controller) is built into the socket 939 CPU itself and WILL NOT support DDR2. I should know, I still have a box with an FX-60, the fastest Socket 939 processor AMD released.

Your friend either had an early AM2 board, or a riser card, or you're mistaken altogether.

By the way, riser cards for socket 939 boards don't really count as "DDR2 support for socket 939", since they DO NOT add DDR2 support to your existing Socket 939 processor. Instead, you have to add a completely new AM2 CPU (which has a new, DDR2 IMC built in) to the riser card alongside the new memory. Basically the riser card was just a secondary (AM2) motherboard that shares some components with the primary board. You can't run both processors at the same time, either.

RE: Serves them right...
By BSMonitor on 2/9/11, Rating: -1
RE: Serves them right...
By RjBass on 2/9/2011 2:26:48 PM , Rating: 2
I can understand your argument, but seeing as how AMD is doing just that, and people seem to be loving it, I don't see how your argument is valid.

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