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Motorola goes all crazy on us with the Xoom's Wi-Fi capabilities

One of the most highly anticipated tablets that will soon be heading to the market is the Motorola Xoom. The tablet was first announced during CES and will come packing Android 3.0 "Honeycomb".

The Xoom aims to impress with a dual-core processor, 10.1" 1280x800 display, 1GB of RAM, dual webcams, and a 3G wireless radio (which can be upgraded to LTE/4G). However, following the release of Motorola’s Super Bowl ad for the Xoom (which conveniently played on Apple's 1984 Super Bowl ad, this time with Apple as the oppressor), we're finding out some not-so-great information about the tablet.

For starters, the 32GB tablet is priced at $799.99 according to Best Buy. Data pricing isn't exactly cheap either, coming in at $20, $35, $50, and $80 for 1GB, 3GB, 5GB, and 10GB respectively.

The biggest hang-up, however, appears to be with Motorola's implementation of Wi-Fi on the Xoom. Engadget reports that customers will be forced to purchase at least one month's worth of 3G data (plus the accompanying activation fee) before Wi-Fi is even enabled on the device. We're hoping that this is just a typo in the Best Buy ad flyer, because that kind of restriction just won't fly with customers these days.

The Motorola Xoom will be made available on February 24. You can check out the Super Bowl commercial for the tablet and its minisite here.



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And we all forget the iPad 2
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 2/7/2011 10:35:49 AM , Rating: 2
It's funny how all of these tablets are gunning for the iPad, when the iPad 2 is right around the corner which will likely reset the bar again.

I'm guessing that they're going to double all of the storage capacities while keeping the same price. Plus you just know they're going to add dual core, dual cameras, NFC, etc. And the battery life will still likely be amazing.

The only thing I'm not so sure about is the screen resolution.

But tablets still make zero sense to me. I have a smartphone, I have a sub 3-pound notebook. I don't need a "tweener" device with yet another data contract sucking my wallet dry and collecting dust.




RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Pirks on 2/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By omnicronx on 2/7/2011 12:23:05 PM , Rating: 2
Do you even have an iPad Pirks?

I don't have a sub 3 inch notebook and I would tend to agree with his tweener comment.

The iPad is intuitive and fun to use, but it is pretty much exactly what he said. More than a phone but not quite a computer.

My iPad has become my TV device, newspaper, and for light use when I travel, but it hardly replaces my other devices. I still need a cell phone, and my computer to do anything out of the realm of consuming content.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Pirks on 2/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By omnicronx on 2/7/2011 1:22:28 PM , Rating: 1
Once again, do you own one?

I do, thus my opinion is based upon personal usage. You don't, making your statement nothing but a baseless guess.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Pirks on 2/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By omnicronx on 2/7/2011 2:12:32 PM , Rating: 3
Venus is between the Earth and the Sun.. So F'in what?

You clearly tried to claim that he was incorrect, and that his statement was only correct if you changed it to 'price between phone and computer jargon'. So exactly what is your point?

Your comments are baseless Pirks, you don't own an iPad, and from the sounds of it you don't own a sub 3" netbook. So exactly what do you have to ad the conversation aside from bias remarks based on nothing but opinion and not even real usage of either scenario?


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Pirks on 2/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By omnicronx on 2/7/2011 3:11:42 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
quote: You clearly tried to claim that he was incorrect Learn to read. I said that his post was correct IF HE DID NOT TAKE PRICE OF HIS NOTEBOOK INTO ACCOUNT.
EXACTLY YOU MORON! You changed his post to something he did not say, nor something that he would agree with (and would have changed the meaning of his entire post), what exactly do you think that implies?
quote:
Brandon doesn't own a sub 3" netbook either. He owns a sub 3-pound notebook. See any difference? ;)
Cry me a river.. clearly I meant lbs unless they started making notebooks smaller than smartphones.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Pirks on 2/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By StuckMojo on 2/13/2011 1:11:04 PM , Rating: 1
I can't believe you guys have enough time on your hands to argue about this.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By FITCamaro on 2/7/2011 4:42:29 PM , Rating: 2
The iPad costs as much or more than many laptops. The last several laptops people I know have purchased have been $500. That got them a 15.6-16" screen, 4GB RAM, 500 GB hard drive, Core i3 processor, and Windows 7 64-bit.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Pirks on 2/7/11, Rating: 0
By invidious on 2/7/2011 5:24:10 PM , Rating: 3
Regardless or price or brand, tablet devices clearly have a niche based on their unique size and battery life.

Whether it is worth the cost is completely relative to the person's disposable income. Some people spend more on a house than others do on a car, clearly those people don't give a crap if their 3 figure tablet is cost efficient, its a luxury item. Nor should they be considered stupid for not caring.

I'm not saying most expensive means best, the ipad has seriously limitations and it looks like this Xoom has some too. But just because something isnt a good value doesn't mean its worthless.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By adrift02 on 2/7/2011 1:34:32 PM , Rating: 3
Exactly omnicronx.

I got an ipad as a gift and while I do love it, I wouldn't be able to get through even one day of work with it and of course my cell phone is always needed at my side regardless (and not just for wireless tethering).

Yet, I get tons of use out of my ipad. It's great for casual browsing on the couch, playing games like scrabble or chess with my friends, or watching netflix in bed. My laptop does all of this, but it's almost a pain to have to lift open my laptop at home unless I'm working. The ipad is just convenient (light, crazy battery life, ready-to-go).


By omnicronx on 2/7/2011 2:29:32 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The ipad is just convenient (light, crazy battery life, ready-to-go).
Exactly! If not for the convenience I most likely would not use it. It also sounds like our usage is very similar.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By cknobman on 2/7/2011 1:28:50 PM , Rating: 2
I think you have it backwards buddy.

My sub 3 pound netbook(sure you can trash it if you want) only cost $150 brand new and runs a full featured operating system. In fact it can ran any OS I choose to put on it.

So please tell me where you "cost" reference fits in for tablets that cost $300 plus dollars?


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Pirks on 2/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By omnicronx on 2/7/2011 2:32:55 PM , Rating: 2
Yes I assume the OP was talking about a small CULV notebook or something and not a netbook.

That said, they can still be had for less than an iPad and are full featured. I've seen some marked down to the 450$ range or less. Of course they can range much higher but that is not the point.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Pirks on 2/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By tastyratz on 2/7/2011 3:23:22 PM , Rating: 2
Pirks nobody is agreeing with you, You are taking statements out of context and saying they agree with you because you can reform their statement to something that pleases you.

The device is a tween device, both in price point AND functionality. It is not quite a computer it is a glorified smartphone with a large display. While it serves its purpose it does not run a fully capable OS be it mac os/windows / etc.

To say he can afford a sub 3lb notebook does not make the ipad a more appropriate choice for his needs. Each level of device and its compromise between features/price/etc. might differently apply to different individuals. For some a small tablet makes sense, while for others it is redundant with a laptop/smartphone combo.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Pirks on 2/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By jvillaro on 2/7/2011 6:04:22 PM , Rating: 2
Ok your as annoying as always...
Would you like this one for example to fit Brandons description?
Acer Aspire Timeline AS1810T
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-TimelineX-AS1830...

Or are you going to say that 0.09 pounds above the sub 3 pound "limit" is a no go...
Or maybe that it's a little more expensive than the cheapest iPad?


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Pirks on 2/7/11, Rating: 0
RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By jvillaro on 2/7/2011 7:36:38 PM , Rating: 2
But does it comply with what Brian said?


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Pirks on 2/8/2011 9:54:13 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, because he doesn't care about price


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By chick0n on 2/11/2011 11:16:18 PM , Rating: 1
my sub 3-pound notebook cost less than the iPad

so what's your point ?


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Flunk on 2/7/2011 11:38:04 AM , Rating: 1
I agree. For me and many others, tablets are pretty worthless. I have a desktop, notebook and smartphone. I use my notebook in the living room, around the house and if I really need to take it on a trip, why do I need something slightly smaller for that? I'm also not going to carry it everywhere, way too big.

Who is this really for anyway? The only answer I can come up with is that it's for people who don't have smartphones or notebooks.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By mcnabney on 2/7/2011 12:35:35 PM , Rating: 2
It....is.....a....gadget.

People love gadgets, but hate unemployed workers.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By kmmatney on 2/7/2011 1:14:19 PM , Rating: 2
Well, I don't have a tablet yet - I'm waiting for iPad2 (or an Android device if it offers better value) but I'd love to have a device I can use comfortably on the couch. Right now, I use my phone, but I really want a larger screen. I have a laptop but its convenient while relaxing on the couch.

It's a luxury gadget, but I think it has a lot of value. I don't expect to do hard-core work, but just the ability to do email and full web-browsing would allow me to do a large part of my job.

I'm a cheapskate, and never buy things like Starbuck's, teh fastest computer parts, etc.. but to me a tablet offers much better value than a netbook. I place value on how often I use a device, and I would use a tablet all the time.


By ShaolinSoccer on 2/7/2011 7:20:14 PM , Rating: 2
They need to come out with an ipad type gadget that ties directly to your smartphone wirelessly so the ipad itself won't need much technology in it. It would just basically "stream" what's in your phone to the ipad. Then they could sell those ipads for cheap and maybe have them come with most smartphones. Would be a nice compliment to any phone.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By theapparition on 2/7/2011 11:59:58 AM , Rating: 3
So just what features of the magical upcoming iPad2 are going to be exceeding the capabilities of the Xoom? Or in your words, reset the bar again.

Double storage? Xoom lets you plug in an SD card, so that's already there.

Dual core, dual camera, etc. Yep, already done on the Xoom.

I'm not discounting Apple, as they do have the capability to constantly surprise everyone. But I don't think the iPad2 will have anything else that the Xoom doesn't already have. Seems like Apple will be playing catch up, from a technological perspective.

Not that it will matter for sales. iPad sells very well and if rumors of the Xoom's price and locked wi-fi are accurate, then even with better hardware, I don't see this Moto tablet competing in the slightest.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By omnicronx on 2/7/2011 12:29:04 PM , Rating: 2
Apple has always done more with less. Same as OEM's also pack as much power into a single space without taking the proper time to optimize and take advantage of said power..

Other manufacturers need to surpass Apple and by a fair amount, merely being close is not going to give them the competitive advantage. Especially when the foothold Apple current has over the market.

Heck pretty much every high end smartphone had a higher resolution, and faster CPU than the iPhone for a good year and a half, yet the iPhone still remained dominent.

Better specs mean little to nothing unless the system as a whole is cohesive, easy to understand, and works well.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By theapparition on 2/7/2011 1:00:30 PM , Rating: 2
I'd agree with you, that to take on Apple individually, you really need to hit a home run with a product. But as a collective, it is quite easy to surplant thier stranglehold on the market.

Just look at the sales of smartphones both domestically and worldwide. Android now is the best seller, despite not a single device outselling the iPhone.

Tablets I don't see differently. Soon there will be a myriad of tablet devices, all with different specs. All competing and making the market for those devices better.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By omnicronx on 2/7/2011 1:25:15 PM , Rating: 2
Android smartphones can also be had for zero dollars. One of its main draws is that it gives you the full smartphone experience for a much smaller pricetag.

Exactly what incentive is there for people to buy a tablet that many will consider to have less features, behind in apps, and the same or more money?

Not saying people won't buy it, but Android worlwide sales and lower price for phones are certainly linked to one another.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By theapparition on 2/7/2011 3:09:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Android smartphones can also be had for zero dollars. One of its main draws is that it gives you the full smartphone experience for a much smaller pricetag.

While true, there is also the option of choice of different phone models on many different carriers. Considering that most models are priced on parity with the subsidised iPhone, I'd wager that choice has far more to do with the platform adoption than one time entry price. I'm sure it's a factor, but I think it's a secondary one.

quote:
Exactly what incentive is there for people to buy a tablet that many will consider to have less features, behind in apps, and the same or more money?

Agreed. Exactly why I stated that this Moto tablet won't go anywhere if the price rumors are correct. Just priced far to high, even though it does provide more features and is more technically capable than any other competition currently released. Although Apples top line model costs more, the bulk of iPad sales are in the lower price range.


By omnicronx on 2/7/2011 3:18:26 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Considering that most models are priced on parity with the subsidised iPhone, I'd wager that choice has far more to do with the platform adoption than one time entry price. I'm sure it's a factor, but I think it's a secondary one.
That is only the case for high end Android devices, which are not the bulk of Android sales. I.e you are incorrect, the majority of Android devices sold are not on par with a subsidized iPhone.

Ok, I will take that back as I just thought about the fact that Apple usually continues to sell the previous model for less money, but if we are talking solely about the latest iPhone which as far as I know account for the largest portion of sales (I'm going to guess that supply of these older phones is limited, and they are merely depleting stock i.e no new phones are shipped), that is not the case.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Pirks on 2/7/11, Rating: 0
RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By omnicronx on 2/7/2011 2:49:15 PM , Rating: 2
Did you even read his comment?

What do Apple profits have to do with his statements? Someone mentions a stat where Apple is struggling and you feel the need to downplay it, even if it has nothing to do with the topic at hand? Clearly Apple is winning the profit game, but that has absolutely no baring on his comment..

He is merely displaying that total worldwild sales are higher, without a best selling phone, and that massive success of a single device may not be necessary to advance Android in the tablet market.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Pirks on 2/7/11, Rating: 0
RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By theapparition on 2/7/2011 3:01:56 PM , Rating: 2
I believe the old addage was "What's that got to do with the price of tea in China".

Meaning, while you link was accurate, it was completely off topic and unrelevant to the discussion at hand.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By Pirks on 2/7/11, Rating: -1
By IcePickFreak on 2/7/2011 10:40:45 PM , Rating: 2
Now we just have to hope that those suicide nets hold at the Foxconn plant that manufacturers Apples products, at least until they have enough stock for Black Friday! *fingers crossed*


By michael2k on 2/7/2011 2:15:18 PM , Rating: 2
It will have everything the Xoom has, but come in $300 cheaper.

$499 for the base 16gb (possibly 32gb) iPad with 2 cameras, 2 cores, etc, etc.

So the bar will be price, in this case.


RE: And we all forget the iPad 2
By nikon133 on 2/7/2011 3:19:21 PM , Rating: 2
Major problem I am expecting with iPad will be lack of Flash; while I don't mind being without Flash on smart phone - screen is too small for anything but simple (text mostly) browsing, on 10" device I would require full experience.

Additionally, it just happens number of sites I am checking do have a lot of Flash, Subaru.co.nz being the worst (try opening that one on iDevice ;)

So... I know iPad will be perfectly capable device in all other aspects (and maybe better in some), it is that simple for me - no Flash, no deal.

But Xoom seems to be overpriced. Asus Transformer, with comparable specs, is expected to be between $399 and $699 depending on SSD size and - hopefully - inclusion of keyboard dock.


By chrnochime on 2/7/2011 4:07:05 PM , Rating: 2
All your speculations are....speculations. We still don't know anything concrete about the spec for ipad 2, so your "raise the bar again"(which by the way, makes no sense since there was no bar there to begin with, as there was no other thin tablet with stripped down OS before ipad) sounds precisely like what it is; A fanboy comment.


By AlterEcho on 2/8/2011 7:29:17 AM , Rating: 2
You hit that right on the mark...another drain on the wallet. The reason I did not get an iPad was because of price and it reminded me of a giant iPhone...with no innovation (I mean knock-me-down type like the original iPhone). Every time we go into the Verizon store, my friend puts the iPad up to his head and pretends to make calls. Just to funny...
I was really looking forward to the Xoom. But, the quoted price and any type of contract is a turn off. All I want is something to watch Hulu, browse the internet and play with some apps. A 7-10 inch screen, webcam and WiFi top the list. You would think that it wouldn't be that hard to target that market...


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