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Oh snap, Verizon just gave a dig at AT&T's voice coverage in its new iPhone commercial.  (Source: Verizon via YouTube)

With pre-order quotas already sold out, the iPhone 4 prepares to land on Verizon's network next Thursday.  (Source: Android Community)
AT&T's efforts to roll out femtocells may not be enough to stave off the hungry iPhone

Pre-orders of Verizon's iPhone 4 sold out at approximately 8:10 p.m. EST Thursday night, according to a Verizon press release.  Those strong sales propelled the iPhone 4 to take the honor of becoming the fastest selling pre-sale phone in Verizon's history.

Next Thursday -- on Feb. 10, 2011 -- the iPhone 4 will get a chance to set more records when it officially launches at Verizon stores at 7 a.m. 

Verizon and Apple did not reveal how many units of the phone were called for during the pre-order, but stated that the demand was unprecedented.  They also would not say how many additional units would be available at stores at launch.  About the only thing they did say, was to post a message telling customers to check back the night before -- Feb. 9 at 3:01 a.m. for the possibility of more pre-order action.

The Verizon iPhone 4 earned largely positive reviews.  Despite its hardware being a bit dated by Android standards, its huge app library, new Wi-Fi hotspot functionality, slick operating system (iOS 4.x), improved reception, and remedied hardware issues led most reviewers to lavish it with praise.  About the only negative sentiments expressed were misgivings about Verizon's policies/prices/fees and some reviews results such as Engadget's which claimed Verizon's data network was slower (a CNET story claimed the opposite).

And the phone also benefits from the fact that the majority of iPhone users have lumped all the blame for various issues over the years on AT&T, by and large, despite some problems being equally or more the fault of Apple.  Thus the jump to Verizon will likely please the iPhone-loving masses from a pure cathartic perspective, even if the experience isn't night-and-day different from their stay on AT&T.

Verizon is doing its best to rub its better coverage in AT&T's face.  Having long suffered from "I want the iPhone, do you have it?" syndrome, the carrier now tastes sweet revenge in commercial form [video].  Iconic "Verizon Guy" Paul Marcarelli appears in a new add, playing with his new iPhone toy as a voice narrates, "It's beautiful. It's intelligent, even genius. But does your network work?"

At that point Verizon Guy's phone rings, and he answers it "Yes, I can hear you now."

That's about as clear a shot at AT&T's voice service as you can get.  And it’s yet another example of Verizon's aggressive advertising attacks on its second place rival that led to an unhappy AT&T unsuccessfully trying to sue Verizon, a little over a year ago.

MacRumors is reporting that AT&T has gone into panic mode, giving out free femtocells to iPhone customers to improve their quality of service, in an effort to stave off Verizon.  The femtocells provide users with a bubble of high quality 3G coverage even in areas where signal strength is typically weak.

AT&T can currently take comfort in the fact that it arguably offers the best Windows Phone 7 handset selection, though they aren't exactly selling like crazy.  As Verizon closes in on picking up Windows Phone 7, as well, AT&T will likely try to continue to beef up its Android and Windows Phone 7 portfolio to attract new customers, even as iPhone users defect. 

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RE: They were meant to be sold out!
By michael2k on 2/4/2011 6:36:36 PM , Rating: 2
You really think this is a trick?
When AT&T and Apple sold out of iPhones in 2010, they sold 1.7m iPhones in 5 countries.

Again in 2009 they sold 1m iPhone 3GS. And in 2008? 1m iPhone 3G.

By comparison, it took the 2009 Droid 74 days to hit 1m. The 2010 Galaxy S took 45 days to hit 1m.

It's not a trick or marketing plan. It's really the fact that over a million people want a Verizon iPhone.

RE: They were meant to be sold out!
By omnicronx on 2/4/2011 7:13:16 PM , Rating: 3
I'm not sure if I believe it, but its not out of the realm of possibility.

If you know that your supply line is going to reach capacity down the line eventually, then it can't really hurt you to create the illusion that your item is selling out, be specifically understocking the known demand.

While this would make little sense for most companies, Apple is not most companies. They could very well know that they will sell out eventually either way, and why not give their device a little extra marketing.

I just find it a tad bit suspect that after 4 years, they have not made sure they have enough phones upon release.. Especially when they knew there would be huge demand for the device.

RE: They were meant to be sold out!
By michael2k on 2/5/2011 3:29:59 PM , Rating: 2
No one else sells millions of phones in a three day period like this. I'm not certain supply chain management is designed for that. Supply chain is designed around weeks of inventory, months of manufacturing capacity, and quarters of sales.

RE: They were meant to be sold out!
By JKflipflop98 on 2/5/2011 5:53:54 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, but they knew a year in advance at least this would happen. You don't think that with over a year's lead time they could have manufactured enough phones? Of course they could, and they did.

Now they're sitting in a big warehouse while the news media goes "OMFG they're sold out!" and all the apple fanboys come out in droves thinking "it's because it's sooooo popular!". Well sure it's popular. But it's not that popular.

RE: They were meant to be sold out!
By michael2k on 2/5/2011 8:42:09 PM , Rating: 2
So how popular? Half a million? One million? No other phone sells like this. The only way this could have been avoided is if Apple had stockpiled 3m iPhones for Verizon, and that's crazy. Thats an entire month of manufacturing ready for a single day. More cost effective to not stockpile and just do normal manufacturing, which means no need to warehouse iPhones for over a month.

RE: They were meant to be sold out!
By Alexstarfire on 2/5/2011 9:16:27 PM , Rating: 2
They have to be storing these new Verizon iPhones somewhere until they launch. I don't see how storing more of them until that day changes the cost effectiveness much, if at all.

RE: They were meant to be sold out!
By michael2k on 2/7/2011 2:11:32 PM , Rating: 2
Let me try to explain:
Start stockpiling the last week of January
Continue stockpiling until the last week of February
Warehouse costs for a month for 4m phones and push back delivery until March 10th.

Don't stockpile, instead start manufacturing the last week of January
Deliver 1m phones the first week of February
Keep manufacturing and have another 1m phones the second week of February
Etc, so by the end of March they will have manufactured, shipped, and sold 4m phones.

Identical end effect, but they can start shipping 4 weeks earlier and not incur the storage costs for the first three weeks of manufacturing.

RE: They were meant to be sold out!
By Alexstarfire on 2/7/2011 2:35:07 PM , Rating: 2
I think I understand, but what you say only makes perfect sense if they don't use a warehouse period. If they are already paying for a warehouse then what I said holds true even if it makes more sense to do what you say, though you'd still be right about the release date and end effect either way.

By michael2k on 2/8/2011 2:54:12 AM , Rating: 2
The difference is scope. Stockpiling requires 4x as much warehouse space as not. It also means any phone manufactured in the first week would arrive with nearly 0% battery.

By Targon on 2/5/2011 10:43:32 PM , Rating: 2
No other phone gets this much hype and marketing behind it, even the Verizon Droid phones don't push this much.

You have to look at this from a logical breakdown of people who will be buying the iPhone on Verizon, just to give some perspective...

You have the people in areas with known bad cell phone reception, yet people ran out to buy the iPhone with AT&T. These people will run to Verizon without checking if Verizon is any better in their area because they assume that it is just the fault of AT&T, not that they live in the middle of nowhere.

You have the people who were on Verizon and who did not switch to AT&T just to get the iPhone, yet they DID want the iPhone.

You will have the people who disliked AT&T previously who wanted the iPhone but didn't want to go to AT&T for it.

Many people will make the shift to the Verizon version of the iPhone....and will find they are just as unhappy if not more unhappy with Verizon than they were on AT&T. The grass is always greener on the other side, right?

In any sort of shift, you add up all of the above, and you get a lot of sales, no question there, but the results over the next two years after the new two year contracts are signed are what people should be paying attention to. Many people replaced their iPhone 3GS that they bought only a year before the iPhone 4, and while the sales numbers are there, these customers did not increase the percentage of users with an iPhone. If you replace your phone, you do not have TWO phones, you have one with one sitting on a shelf or sent over to eastern Europe, or something like that, effectively GONE.

Note that Apple made promises for a white iPhone that was supposed to be released shortly after the iPhone 4 launch...can you really believe EVERYTHING that Apple tries to claim? Hype, advertising, and smart marketing tricks...Apple has talent there, but they are fighting a stagnation in product design while the competition shows more innovation that IS taking a lot of the spotlight these days.

So, again, if you have people currently on AT&T who go to Verizon, they are not increasing the number of iPhone users if they can't or don't sell their old phone to someone who doesn't have an iPhone already.

RE: They were meant to be sold out!
By sprockkets on 2/4/2011 8:30:13 PM , Rating: 2
So they sold 16 mil phones last quarter.

And they knew for the past 1+ year they were going to build a CDMA phone.

So far they ran out of their initial batch for current verizon customers. It does NOT mean they ran out of CDMA phones already.

So yes, I smell iTurds.

RE: They were meant to be sold out!
By Tony Swash on 2/5/2011 6:01:33 AM , Rating: 1
So yes, I smell iTurds.

We do know from Verizon's official press release that " At 8:10 p.m. EST yesterday, Verizon ceased online orders of iPhone 4 to existing customers and ended the most successful first day sales in the history of the company."

So we know that Verizon says it sold more iPhones on it's first day than any other product it has ever released.

There are reports that Verizon may have sold a million iPhones 4 on the first day, beating AT&T's 600,000 iPhone 4's on it's first day back in 2010

Trying to pretend that there is some sort of fishy business going on at best looks like simple sour grapes and at worst looks childish. Whether you like it or not every actual piece of evidence strongly, one could say overwhelmingly, suggests that the Verizon iPhone 4 will be a smash hit. And that lots of Verizon Android handset owners are planning to switch to iPhone 4.

I fear all you smell is your own mental flatulence :)

RE: They were meant to be sold out!
By sprockkets on 2/5/2011 9:16:23 AM , Rating: 2
Actual sales numbers or STFU.

RE: They were meant to be sold out!
By Tony Swash on 2/5/2011 11:33:03 AM , Rating: 2
Actual sales numbers or STFU.

Relax. The numbers will come sooner or later. As will the queues and packed Apple Stores as the new Verizon customers flock to the iPhone in their millions.

Here is my prediction. The queues for the iPhone on day one of over the counter availability will be bigger than any other phone (including all the Android models) ever released by Verizon, heck they will be bigger than the queues for any phone ever released by anyone except for other iPhone models. And thats queues for a phone model that has been out for nearly nine months already.

The Verizon iPhone is going to be a gigantic success.

How much do think the Android sales will be dented by the Verizon iPhone?

By Alexstarfire on 2/5/2011 5:56:17 PM , Rating: 2
I didn't see anyone say that the phone wouldn't be a success. All they are really saying is that without actual numbers saying you sold out doesn't mean all that much.

I can't really agree with what they are saying though. It doesn't say they sold out of the iPhones. It just says they sold out of the pre-order bunch. No one ever puts the whole stock available for pre-orders, except for 1 product/game that is at the back of my mind. I remember Gamestop not having enough of something to give out all the pre-orders once but that's it.

This "article" doesn't really say anything that most people couldn't have easily guessed/predicted about the Verizon iPhone 4.

I'm sure there will be queues, most people are idiots after all. And no, I'm not saying they are stupid to buy the phone, but you must be pretty stupid to wait for 4+ years just to rush out on the first day of sales to wait in line to get one. It's not like in a month, probably not even that long, there won't be more to buy.

I'll be very interested at the number whenever they get posted.

By michael2k on 2/5/2011 3:23:25 PM , Rating: 2
Who said they ran out of CDMA iPhones? If this release mirrors last year's iPhone release, they will have 1m at hand, half set aside for in store pickup and the other half reserved for preorders.

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