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Microsoft talks trash about the iPad's business capabilities, in slide form.  (Source: Microsoft via ZDNet)
Redmond's finest hopes to score some tablet business from the corporate sector

After a long road, Microsoft is finally ready to enter the tablet market in earnest during 2011 with a number of Windows 7 tablets running on Intel Atom system-on-a-chip processors.  To date, Microsoft has only released one high profile Windows tablet -- the HP Slate 500 -- and by "high profile" we mean "sold 5,000 units at launch."

Microsoft obviously hopes for much bigger things, with rival Apple selling millions of iPads each month.  But it has its work cut out for it with the impending release of the Apple iPad 2.

In an attempt to counter the iPad's sizable market lead, Microsoft is planning to attack it where it's weakest -- on the business side.  The company has been passing about a slide deck to its partners entitled "Microsoft Commercial Slate PCs".

The slides brag that Windows 7 can do things that Apple's iOS 4.x can't do well, such as "provide remote assistance", "deploy LOB applications", and "secure corporate IP".  Clearly Microsoft plans on leveraging the fact that Windows 7 is a more secure OS, is richer in business software, and (with the help of Intel's chips) offers superior virtualization/networking capabilities.

A recent report by Seattle's TechFlash pointed out that if iPads were factored in to computer sales reports, Apple would jump ahead of Dell to become the world's second largest seller of personal computers.

But its new campaign just might work to some extent.  Many businesses have clearly been interested in the tablet craze, but have been wary of handing out hard-to-manage iPads to the staff.  If Microsoft plays its hand right and manages to offer a decent selection of affordable options, it may just win these slow adopters over.  The only big risk is the fact that Windows 7 tablets are expected to get worse battery life due to the fact that they use Intel, rather than ARM processors.

The real question for Microsoft is what to do next.  The company has to focus on developing a next generation Windows operating system focused on the tablet, and has to try to efficiently offer legacy software support for its newly adopted ARM architecture CPUs in order to close the battery life gap with its rivals.  But it also has to consider whether a full-fledged Windows environment is well suited for its next generation tablet OS, or whether it would be better off adopting its non-traditional Windows Phone 7/Zune OS in a larger form factor.

Microsoft's plans for this year is looking increasingly clear, but its long term plans are far less so.



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What a lot of hokum in one place.
By Tony Swash on 1/25/2011 12:36:10 PM , Rating: -1
wow - what a lot of hokum in one place.

There's this

quote:
Microsoft has a firm place in the technology world, their products and opinions are of huge importance.


Important to who? For how long? The world is changing and Microsoft failed to notice until it was too late. All tablets based on Windows 7 will fail. Not a single one will get any traction in the market, in the consumer space or the enterprise space. At every turn Microsoft fell back to defending their old ageing monopoly products and now they are up shit creek without a paddle.

And this

quote:
This is why OEM centric platforms will always win out in the long run, and why MS is most likely far from being irrelevant.

Apple will most likely continue to garner a huge share in the consumer tablet space, but eventually they are not going to be in the dominant position they are now in the grand scheme of things. The question is, who will be there to fill the gap.


Such hubris based on so little actuality. The confident reference to a "gap" that doesn't actually exist is a stroke of genius. Perhaps you failed to notice this.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/01/18/appl...

Looks like Apple are moving to wrap up the tablet screen production sector like they wrapped up the flash memory market a few years back.

I guess the tablet OEMs are going to win just like they did with the iPod - oh wait a minute :)

And finally this old chestnut

quote:
At some point the Apple commercials they made about Windows Viruses, Hacking, and freezing the computer will start to haunt even Apples biggest fans. Most high end techs already know its a joke. Some times you have to let people fall off the cliff to learn the lesson.


Yeah right - in your dream world some day real soon Macs (or iPad or whatever Apple brings out next) is going to be hit by some big infection, some terrible security breach and then everyone will forget that 99.9% of all malware is Windows based and then whose going to be laughing. Unfortunately although long predicted, and wished for, that day has just never arrived, and never will. You can keep hoping I suppose if it helps you cope with the fear and uncertainty engendered by the seemingly irresistible rise of Apple - but it's not going to happen and deep in your heart you really know that and it hurts.




RE: What a lot of hokum in one place.
By Pirks on 1/25/2011 12:52:12 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The world is changing and Microsoft failed to notice
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=20684...

Quit avoiding my post like a plague Tony, find some strength to stand up and look in the face of truth :P
quote:
Unfortunately although long predicted, and wished for, that day has just never arrived, and never will
Yeah, indeed how can this Big Day Of The Mac Virus come if Mac has just a few percent of market share? Who'd bother to write a virus for such a miniscule platform off the market radar unit share wise? You're right Tony - noone.


RE: What a lot of hokum in one place.
By XZerg on 1/25/2011 1:30:05 PM , Rating: 2
well that 1% of at least 1 billion people on internet would be 10 million. And out of that 10M users most of them are willing to throw $$$$ on whatever Stevie Wonder moves his wand over. So plenty of money to be made going for Mac users given their willingness to throw $$$$.


RE: What a lot of hokum in one place.
By Pirks on 1/25/2011 1:51:17 PM , Rating: 2
This 10 millions is super scarce and well scattered, with so much distance between all these Macs there's zero chance for the spread of infection, which is a total opposite of the super dense population of Windows PCs. No density -> no virus infections that could spread anywhere -> no incentive to write Mac virus. Got it?


RE: What a lot of hokum in one place.
By spread on 1/25/2011 4:23:46 PM , Rating: 2
That's great. So all I have to do is space out my Windows PCs. I put one in the basement and one in the attic.

Virus problem solved. Wow, you're smart. Thanks!


RE: What a lot of hokum in one place.
By Pirks on 1/25/2011 6:10:26 PM , Rating: 2
spread your Windows


RE: What a lot of hokum in one place.
By Tony Swash on 1/25/2011 2:23:17 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Yeah, indeed how can this Big Day Of The Mac Virus come if Mac has just a few percent of market share? Who'd bother to write a virus for such a miniscule platform off the market radar unit share wise?


Look - if the security through obscurity tosh stokes your fires then keep on believing. Happily the whole thing will be settled empirically. Macs just keep keep growing their market share. Lets see what happens. meanwhile the actual reality is simple and straight forward. No virus/malware on Macs. 99.9% of malware on Windows.

Dems the facts buddy ;)


By themaster08 on 1/25/2011 2:35:01 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Macs just keep keep growing their market share.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/os-market-share.as...

Dem those facts buddy ;)


RE: What a lot of hokum in one place.
By Pirks on 1/25/2011 2:37:32 PM , Rating: 2
Look - if the MS using 25 year old technologies tosh stokes your fires then keep on believing. Happily the whole thing will be settled empirically. MS will keep Macs away from hurting its market share. Lets see what happens. meanwhile the actual reality is simple and straight forward. No market share on Macs. 99.9% of market share on Windows.

Dems the facts buddy ;)


By sprockkets on 1/25/2011 3:00:03 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, where have you been the last 3 years? Nobody hacks OSes anymore; they hack Adobe Flash, Acrobat and other cross platform apps.


RE: What a lot of hokum in one place.
By acer905 on 1/25/2011 12:57:43 PM , Rating: 2
Just out of curiosity, first i shall poll the readers:

1) How many people have seen an iPad in real life, being used by actual people, outside of stores selling them. I for one have seen one. It was about 2 weeks ago.

2) Of the people you see using them, what are they doing. The person i saw was playing a simple game.

3) How many people, estimate, would be able to fully replace their home/work computer with an iPad?

The problem that i see with the iPad, and the tablets that it has inspired, is in the approach it takes. Being a content viewing device, it is not truly suited to replace a traditional computer. Think of a college student, who instead of buying a laptop or netbook bought an iPad. they would be forced to go to their schools library in order to write a lengthy report that makes up most of their grade for a class.

There are many people who spend more time inputting content into a computer than they do viewing it. For them, the limited abilities of a content viewing device would cause problems, especially if it costs as much as their content input device.

The idea behind the Slate, and the reason its geared for business, is as a mobility content input device. This may not be the thing that sells millions of units to the average masses, but it fills a needed role. At your desk, you dock your tablet, giving it keyboard and mouse functionality, and perhaps a larger screen. Then when you leave your desk, you pick it up and keep working on it with the touch interface.

It is not a fancy new idea, it is the evolution of the portable computing. years ago someone slapped together a device with integrated keyboard, mouse, and screen and created an expensive, yet mobile computer. yet, many people didn't really like using the built in mouse, so at their desk they had another.

I for one am hopeful that, just like laptops, tablet computers will evolve, become more powerful, and have longer battery lives, so that they will be able to phase out their predecessor.

A content viewing device can never do that.


RE: What a lot of hokum in one place.
By Pirks on 1/25/2011 1:02:58 PM , Rating: 2
Answering for myself:
1) One, yesterday
2) Reading PDF file
3) None

Answering for Tony:
1) Bajillions
2) Doing everything
3) Bajillions

He's so predictable eh :)))


By Luticus on 1/25/2011 1:11:33 PM , Rating: 2
1) We give them to our execs at work
2) Playing simple games and surfing the net:)
3) Seeing as you need a computer of some kind loaded with itunes just to turn the thing on for the first time... nobody!

The ipad is a stupid piece of junk for anyone serious about replacing their computer with a tablet. Even if i had my "dream" tablet it wouldn't be a replacement for my desktop!


RE: What a lot of hokum in one place.
By Tony Swash on 1/25/2011 2:28:51 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
ust out of curiosity, first i shall poll the readers:

1) How many people have seen an iPad in real life, being used by actual people, outside of stores selling them. I for one have seen one. It was about 2 weeks ago.

2) Of the people you see using them, what are they doing. The person i saw was playing a simple game.

3) How many people, estimate, would be able to fully replace their home/work computer with an iPad?

The problem that i see with the iPad, and the tablets that it has inspired, is in the approach it takes. Being a content viewing device, it is not truly suited to replace a traditional computer. Think of a college student, who instead of buying a laptop or netbook bought an iPad. they would be forced to go to their schools library in order to write a lengthy report that makes up most of their grade for a class.

There are many people who spend more time inputting content into a computer than they do viewing it. For them, the limited abilities of a content viewing device would cause problems, especially if it costs as much as their content input device.

The idea behind the Slate, and the reason its geared for business, is as a mobility content input device. This may not be the thing that sells millions of units to the average masses, but it fills a needed role. At your desk, you dock your tablet, giving it keyboard and mouse functionality, and perhaps a larger screen. Then when you leave your desk, you pick it up and keep working on it with the touch interface.

It is not a fancy new idea, it is the evolution of the portable computing. years ago someone slapped together a device with integrated keyboard, mouse, and screen and created an expensive, yet mobile computer. yet, many people didn't really like using the built in mouse, so at their desk they had another.

I for one am hopeful that, just like laptops, tablet computers will evolve, become more powerful, and have longer battery lives, so that they will be able to phase out their predecessor.

A content viewing device can never do that.


That's a tremendously well presented and thoughtful argument as to why reality is not reality.

Unfortunately for you reality is reality.

Apple sold 17 million iPads in the first nine months. With a version one device.

They will sell three times that number in the next twelve months.

Reading your post is like listening to someone standing waist deep in a river offering a rational sounding argument as why their feet are not wet and cannot possibly be wet.

All the other posts here saying the iPad is a useless piece of crap that cannot possible catch on or replace the old style computer just seem ridiculous in the face of Apple's sales figures. Hands on hearts guys at it's launch how many iPads did you think Apple would sell in the first nine months?

Does the fact that reality seems to conflict so deeply with your inner mental picture of the world suggest to you that one or the other need adjusting so that they might fit? I will leave you to guess which one needs adjusting :)


RE: What a lot of hokum in one place.
By Pirks on 1/25/2011 2:52:26 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
iPad is a useless piece of crap that cannot possible catch on or replace the old style computer just seem ridiculous in the face of Apple's sales figures
Apple sold just a few percent of whatever amount of PCs was sold and self-assembled in the world, so looks like Apple's tiny sales figures (compared to PC/parts sales) only prove that iPad is useless toy that can't even exist without PC and its iTunes on top of ol' trusty Windows.


By Luticus on 1/25/2011 1:08:04 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Important to who? For how long? The world is changing and Microsoft failed to notice until it was too late. All tablets based on Windows 7 will fail. Not a single one will get any traction in the market, in the consumer space or the enterprise space. At every turn Microsoft fell back to defending their old ageing monopoly products and now they are up shit creek without a paddle.


LOL, Really Tony... all that and for what? You have no evidence that windows 7 tablets will fail and even if they do, so what? That still doesn't mean Microsoft as a whole will fail. Microsoft is a massive tech company with the number one desktop operating system and office productivity solution. Everything else is just gravy. That's not even mentioning Windows 8 when it's released. If you seriously think Microsoft is irrelevant just because apple released some phones and an ipad you're fooling yourself. That's like saying America is irrelevant because we had a recession, obviously not the case.

Microsoft is huge, and they've just release the single best desktop operating system on the market. They've had some huge successes recently with their software. Windows Mobile 7 is looking to be a strong future contender, xbox is doing great (now), and IE9 will be a huge hit. Granted apple isn't going anywhere either but I'm not the one saying someone's irrelevant.

The next time you want to use words like "hokum" to describe one of my quotes i suggest you have a lot more than baseless speculation to back it up!


By omnicronx on 1/25/2011 1:49:19 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This is why OEM centric platforms will always win out in the long run, and why MS is most likely far from being irrelevant. Apple will most likely continue to garner a huge share in the consumer tablet space, but eventually they are not going to be in the dominant position they are now in the grand scheme of things. The question is, who will be there to fill the gap.

Such hubris based on so little actuality. The confident reference to a "gap" that doesn't actually exist is a stroke of genius. Perhaps you failed to notice this. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/01/18/appl... Looks like Apple are moving to wrap up the tablet screen production sector like they wrapped up the flash memory market a few years back. I guess the tablet OEMs are going to win just like they did with the iPod - oh wait a minute :)


Seriously, have you no understanding of how the market works? Do you seriously think that Apple has the production capacity to ever dominate the business tablet market? They barely have enough capacity to meet current CONSUMER demand.

The iPod is a CONSUMER device, that was undeniably pushed by iTunes into dominance.

iPod sales out of this consumer space are non existent, so to even compare the two makes me laugh.

The history of the iPod has absolutely no relevance when discussing the applicability of the iPad in the business space.

I also don't see why I should care about a 3.9B infusion for supply contracts, as though this has any relevance to the topic at hand. You are kidding yourself if you think that infusion is for anything else other than to increase its current production capacity as they are not meeting current CONSUMER demands.

They could spend their entire 60B in reserves and they still would have nowhere near the production capacity needed to dominate the entire market moving forward.

Sorry Tony, but history is not on your side. OEM centric platforms have shown time and time again why they make far more sense, especially in the business space.

I'm not trying to claim any product is better than another, I'm just commenting on the business model.


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