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Missile being launched from a submarine  (Source: Daily Mail)
Experts believe it could be years before the missiles are fully operational

There are potential future hot spots for military conflict all over the world, with China being high on the list. Since the days of WWII, the U.S. Navy has had the clear superiority in surface ship warfare in the waters in and around China, but the Chinese have a new missile system that could cause the U.S. to rethink its plans for any future conflicts in the area.

Newsroom America
 reports that China has a new missile known as the DF-21 that has reached its "initial operational capability" (IOC). The IOC milestone for the Chinese weapon system means that the design has been settled on but the system will continue to be refined according to military experts.

Admiral Robert F. Willard, commander of the U.S. Pacific Command told the Asahi Shimbun newspaper, "An analogy using a Western term would be 'initial operational capability (IOC),' whereby I think China would perceive that it has an operational capability now, but they continue to develop it. I would gauge it as about the equivalent of a U.S. system that has achieved IOC."

The missile can be launched from land and is capable of striking surface vessels that are moving, with enough force to destroy a U.S. supercarrier with one hit. 

A U.S. Naval Institute report from last year said of the missile system, "The size of the missile enables it to carry a warhead big enough to inflict significant damage on a large vessel."

The missile is launched from land, soars into the atmosphere, and then uses a complex guidance system combined with maneuverability and a low radar signature to evade defensive weapons and hit moving targets. So far, the U.S. has not detected over-the-surface tests of the missile on moving targets.

Despite the continued growth of the Chinese military and the new weapons system, 
DailyMail reports that the Chinese military still maintains that it is no threat to countries in its region. The missile would be guided by an interwoven system of UAVs, submarines, and satellites to its target.

Chinese military spokesperson Jiang Wu said, "I can say that China pursues a defensive national policy. ... We pose no threat to other countries. We will always be a force in safeguarding regional peace and stability."



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RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By TheDoc9 on 12/29/2010 2:00:42 PM , Rating: 2
Much of China is filthy poor, they're military and technology has come so far in such a short time because of stealing secrets and the manufacturing of other nations advanced tech.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By wordsworm on 12/30/2010 8:27:45 AM , Rating: 2
Where do you think Russia and US got their rocket scientists from? All countries try to steal tech from other countries. If it wasn't for Chinese tech, we'd all still be in caves and ignorant of 0. Aside from cast iron, the compass, and ceramics, I can't think of how else we'd have any technology at all.

I also recall China's involvement in Vietnam resulting in a Vietnamese victory. It turns out that American machines are like their masters: loud and obnoxious. Easy to hear from far away and jump into a well dug hole.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By 91TTZ on 12/30/2010 12:58:48 PM , Rating: 2
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If it wasn't for Chinese tech, we'd all still be in caves and ignorant of 0


That's absurd. They may have invented certain technology before others, but it's ridiculous to think that others wouldn't have invented it on their own.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By wordsworm on 12/30/2010 4:29:01 PM , Rating: 2
Many people assume that without western technology being stolen, they'd not have advanced so quickly. I was merely pointing out that the reverse can easily be shown as well.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By ekv on 1/1/2011 4:02:40 AM , Rating: 2
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If it wasn't for Chinese tech, we'd all still be in caves and ignorant of 0
Not hardly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(number)

Furthermore, there is a difference tween luring scientists away from competitors and outright industrial espionage. Chinese theft is at magnitude like no other.

http://threatswatch.org/rapidrecon/2007/11/chinese...


By snakeInTheGrass on 1/1/2011 9:27:50 PM , Rating: 2
I think framing the Soviet and US rocket scientists (German) as having been 'lured' is kind of strange. His point was that the US/Soviets did more than steal secrets but stole people as well, and that nations have done that throughout history. Look at the patents around aspirin, technology stolen after WWII, during the cold war, etc. It's just nothing new.

Anyhow, I'll take the gunpowder but they can keep the delicious chicken feet.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By wordsworm on 1/3/2011 7:30:13 PM , Rating: 2
I'm guessing you didn't read the article that you linked to. If you had, you'd have seen that it states that China's been using zero and negative numbers since 4th century BC. It required Arabs to give it to us before we knew anything about it.

How about everyone take back their technology and see where we'd all be. We stop using 0, ceramics, cast-metal technology, hulled ships, compasses, etc. And they will stop using computers... wait, but they had computers before us, too. Geeze... what exactly have we done to contribute to the world? We invented rock-n-roll, right? I'm not trying to put Western achievement down. I'm simply stating that China has done its part and deserves whatever technology we have. One of these days you might come to realize how awesome China has been over the last 2.5 thousand years. But only with an open and inquiring mind will you discover it.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By ekv on 1/3/2011 9:05:33 PM , Rating: 2
I have a degree in mathematics. What is your degree in, history? If you want to cherry pick from the Wikipedia article, yes, the Chinese had a concept of zero and negative numbers. However! Babylonian and Indian scholars also had similar concepts, pre-dating the Chinese by several centuries. Even the Greeks had an idea of zero around the time you reference. As far as Arabic influence, even that wasn't "required".

For you to state
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If it wasn't for Chinese tech, we'd all still be in caves and ignorant of 0
is incorrect. Even re-stating your argument in terms of 'intending' to demonstrate the superiority of Chinese culture and technology I remain a skeptic. Especially given their level of industrial espionage. If you don't believe me, then just ask Google. China "deserves" a punch in the nose.

But then you add,
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I'm not trying to put Western achievement down
after having said,
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It turns out that American machines are like their masters: loud and obnoxious.
Well, which is it? If you're not putting me down, then why are you putting me down?

Listen to me. Answer. Or are you not open to that?


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By wordsworm on 1/6/2011 9:27:36 AM , Rating: 2
I guess to get a mathematics degree they don't require papers to provide references for claims. It's different with English literature I suppose. That's why I provided the reference to Wikipedia. More from Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_numerals: "The Babylonians did not technically have a digit for, nor a concept of, the number zero." Maybe you can pick up the argument with the references used in the Wiki article. As to the rest of your claims, I don't feel like tracking them down to find out if you're right or not. It's too bad that the degree in mathematics didn't include an English lit course or two to help you with reading. When I read both the articles on zero and Babylon, I did so with an open mind. I don't care if I'm right or wrong. I'm merely arguing using facts that I have gleaned from reading.

Where do you think the west got Chinese technology in the first place? I said I wasn't trying to put Western achievement down. I have no problem with complaining about how loud and obnoxious you are, and most of the anti-Chinese rhetoric here is. There's nothing wrong with China or Chinese people. It's a great country.

If any country deserves a bloody nose for its behaviour over the last 10 years, I'd have to say that America is on the top of the list. Vietnam, Cambodia, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan... when is America going to stop killing people? How many countries has China invaded?


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By ekv on 1/8/2011 3:32:48 PM , Rating: 2
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That's why I provided the reference to Wikipedia.
Excuse me, but aren't you a little confused? I provided the Wiki link. You follow with Babylonian Numerals, but your quote stopped short. Why? Because the VERY next sentence says "Although they understood the idea..." I guess the facts just don't support your claims of Chinese superiority. Further, you apparently have selective memory for all your reading skill, since in the link I provided "The concept of zero as a number and not merely a symbol for separation is attributed to India where by the 9th century AD practical calculations were carried out using zero..." Where is the lineage for zero coming from China? Is that an 'exercise left for the reader'?
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I don't care if I'm right or wrong.
I don't believe you. In fact, you don't even believe that. Would you like proof? Suppose that the person who makes the food you eat does not care about right or wrong. Then by that standard it's ok to add melamine. Right? I mean, so what if it's wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_protein_adult...
Or how about the person that makes out your paycheck. If they short you a couple bucks, so what, no? Or the papers you turn in, so what if the references are bogus. Your prof's will never know the difference, right? Care to wager on that?
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Where do you think the west got Chinese technology in the first place?
Instead of leveling false accusations against me, perhaps you ought to open your mind to remedial English grammar. Or were you trying to ask me something like 'In what country do you find the Panama Canal?'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZgsczUhvOk
If you're going to insult me, at least double-check your own work.

But then there are the facts regarding Chinese industrial espionage. Did you read that with an open mind as well? lol. So what you do is ignore and/or deflect criticism away from it. Or better, you just "don't feel like tracking" down facts contrary to your opinion.

http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/5821-communist-pi...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_intelligence_...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/22/german...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70638U201101...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aurora

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There's nothing wrong with China or Chinese people.
If you're so pro-China, please just move there and renounce any supposed citizenship you may have here. You'd be on the leading edge of the new trend. Lastly, by your logic, if there's nothing wrong with them, there's nothing wrong with U.S.A. Except I'm man enough to know better and ask the hard questions. God bless....


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