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Missile being launched from a submarine  (Source: Daily Mail)
Experts believe it could be years before the missiles are fully operational

There are potential future hot spots for military conflict all over the world, with China being high on the list. Since the days of WWII, the U.S. Navy has had the clear superiority in surface ship warfare in the waters in and around China, but the Chinese have a new missile system that could cause the U.S. to rethink its plans for any future conflicts in the area.

Newsroom America
 reports that China has a new missile known as the DF-21 that has reached its "initial operational capability" (IOC). The IOC milestone for the Chinese weapon system means that the design has been settled on but the system will continue to be refined according to military experts.

Admiral Robert F. Willard, commander of the U.S. Pacific Command told the Asahi Shimbun newspaper, "An analogy using a Western term would be 'initial operational capability (IOC),' whereby I think China would perceive that it has an operational capability now, but they continue to develop it. I would gauge it as about the equivalent of a U.S. system that has achieved IOC."

The missile can be launched from land and is capable of striking surface vessels that are moving, with enough force to destroy a U.S. supercarrier with one hit. 

A U.S. Naval Institute report from last year said of the missile system, "The size of the missile enables it to carry a warhead big enough to inflict significant damage on a large vessel."

The missile is launched from land, soars into the atmosphere, and then uses a complex guidance system combined with maneuverability and a low radar signature to evade defensive weapons and hit moving targets. So far, the U.S. has not detected over-the-surface tests of the missile on moving targets.

Despite the continued growth of the Chinese military and the new weapons system, 
DailyMail reports that the Chinese military still maintains that it is no threat to countries in its region. The missile would be guided by an interwoven system of UAVs, submarines, and satellites to its target.

Chinese military spokesperson Jiang Wu said, "I can say that China pursues a defensive national policy. ... We pose no threat to other countries. We will always be a force in safeguarding regional peace and stability."



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China: We no threat to nobody!
By DarkElfa on 12/29/2010 12:05:08 PM , Rating: 5
Sure, China is no threat to anyone, just a happy go lucky trading partner.

Right up until it starts WW3 and melts everyone's cheese.




RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By mtbiker731 on 12/29/2010 12:11:53 PM , Rating: 3
I don't want my cheese to melt.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By jkostans on 12/29/2010 12:30:58 PM , Rating: 3
Ohhhhh cheddar.....


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By Anoxanmore on 12/29/2010 1:06:37 PM , Rating: 2
Cheddar is pretty awesome melted.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By topkill on 12/29/2010 1:27:16 PM , Rating: 4
Not if it's extra sharp cheddar. That is better cold, sliced and served on wheat crackers accompanied by a nice merlot. :-)


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By DM0407 on 12/29/2010 2:12:08 PM , Rating: 2
After they melt are cheese we can use extra sharp cheddar as revenge.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By ClownPuncher on 12/29/2010 2:12:52 PM , Rating: 2
A nice box of merlot. Crackers are for the poor.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By AssBall on 12/29/2010 2:21:57 PM , Rating: 4
Throw in a decent apple and some cheap smoked meats. Then invite me.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By cscpianoman on 12/30/2010 8:41:06 AM , Rating: 2
Behold the power of cheese.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By mars2k on 12/31/2010 9:19:30 AM , Rating: 3
You guys are nuts :-)


By protosv on 1/2/2011 5:15:58 AM , Rating: 3
Never underestimate the power (or overestimate the flavor) of boxed wine.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By imaheadcase on 12/29/2010 12:56:09 PM , Rating: 3
Well technically they are not a thread to anyone. People always whine about how much spending they increase each year for arms. But considering the SIZE of the country/population vs cost ratio it makes sense.

See China is very self resilient. They have natural resources, crops, manufacturing, etc. Unless those are threatened they don't have a reason to use what they are building up. Like most countries, build up is a deterrent, not a direct response to anything.

Now compare that per person vs the USA.. other nations are more concerned with OUR spending. The USA is the biggest arms dealer in the world (ok combine all the former USSR and they are, but who's counting Ak-47s and cold war weapons).

China gets lots of press, simply because they are doing so much so fast, in the last 10 years they have come further than the US did in 30. Which even the most hardened generals in the USA cry tears of joy at night as such awe.

I've said it once, i'll say it again. Lots of good things come from communism, you get shit done for the greater good sometimes.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By FITCamaro on 12/29/2010 1:19:34 PM , Rating: 2
We also defend over half the world with said military. But hey we're just a bunch of gun totin rednecks who love to blow sh*t up in others backyards right?

China isn't acting as a threat right now because they have everything they want. The military power to ensure no one will retaliate in response to the crimes they do commit via plausible deniability(aka. cyber espionage) coupled with an artificially lowered currency value to keep a good portion of the worlds production inside their borders. No one dares cross them lest they not do business with them.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By topkill on 12/29/2010 1:33:08 PM , Rating: 5
But why are we defending half the world? Screw them. I'm tired of spending our kids lives to do it.

I don't give a rat's ass if Yemen or the Congo is a democracy. They seem to be happy crawling around worshipping whatever it is they want to worship and letting a bunch of jumped up shiekhs or dictators steal all their money. So let them.

If they get tired of it, they can throw off the tyrants like we did. I'm not doing it for them.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By AssBall on 12/29/2010 1:40:42 PM , Rating: 5
Many people don't share your opinion after said dictators, sheiks, and tyrants decide to fund, endorse, and drive planes into our buildings.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By Spuke on 12/29/2010 2:23:35 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Many people don't share your opinion after said dictators, sheiks, and tyrants decide to fund, endorse, and drive planes into our buildings.
I do believe that totally minding our own business STILL doesn't keep a$$hats out of our business (see WWII) BUT the level of involvement we have now is over the top. Diplomacy should be our only face with huge consequences if crossed. That whole "speak softly but carry a big stick" mentality. And I disagree with people not sharing that opinion. MANY Americans, and not just liberals, feel it is NOT our business to be the "world's police".

Seriously, the middle east is not our problem!!! And, quite frankly, we would not have gotten any sh!t over chasing terrorists if we weren't the world's police. Not that I care about getting sh!t necessarily, sometimes things need to get done regardless of popularity.

Spuke's Plan
1. Send special forces out to secretly find where these terrorists reside.
2. Work with whatever country to get permission to kill them.
3. With permission given, send whatever forces to take them out.
4. If country decides not to cooperate, make a big stink over it, provide evidence, etc.
5. If stink is made and country doesn't budge AND you have the world's support behind you (because of the stench), accuse the country of supporting the terrorists.
6. Most countries won't like the accusations and we might be able to get some UN resolutions out of it too. Maybe a couple of carrier battle groups near said country might move things along here.
7. If country caves in, work out a deal, if not, declare war on said country. Wipe all traces of terrorists and other wannabees. No rebuilding, no "I'm sorry" money either. Get the job done.
7. Rinse and repeat.

This would take MANY years because of the required diplomacy to get everyone on board. See Bush senior on how that's done. We had no business in Kuwait either but everyone gave us their support AND the Kuwaiti's asked for help!! Eventually, we would get this into a more manageable state and maybe even save some other countries from their continued dealings with terrorists.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By AssBall on 12/29/2010 2:37:28 PM , Rating: 3
I like your plan, but there is a missing part I wonder about.

Every Diplomatic/Military action is essentially a business decision (unless you believe in altruism). In that respect the U.S.A. has a mixed track record, but we also have the BEST track record in modern history.

If we keep wasting money on some of these actions with no return (Afghanistan), what is the point?

It's not that I disagree with the Military being in places like Afghanistan to cull terrorists, its that their mission and purpose are impossible economically and politically, as prescribed by our current Commander and Chief.

So if we are going to refuse to be effective or economical, I support the Spuke plan.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By Spuke on 12/29/2010 3:06:36 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
If we keep wasting money on some of these actions with no return (Afghanistan), what is the point?
Afghanistan is a waste simply because we begged to go there and then made deals on how we'll conduct "warfare". All this served was to kill a bunch of people with no benefit to anyone. Do you think the Afghani's would care if we removed their terrorists and other instruments of discontent? If the US got invaded and all the white supremacists groups got wiped out, I wouldn't shed a tear.

If we had put Afghanistan on the spot, we could dictate instead of beg. Further actions might end up being easier because EVERYONE would know how we conduct business.

Which leads to my fundamental issue with politics is that it's based on fooling people into getting your way instead of negotiating to attain a mutual benefit. These people need to take a basic sales class.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By maven81 on 12/29/2010 4:29:11 PM , Rating: 3
"If we had put Afghanistan on the spot, we could dictate instead of beg. Further actions might end up being easier because EVERYONE would know how we conduct business."

And how exactly do you put them on the spot? You must have slept through the soviet experience because they have shown that even if you control every major city you still have no control over the country as a whole. Worse yet no one seems to be paying attention to the nature of the people we are dealing with. These are tribal people. They don't give a crap about a central government. Their allegiance is to the elders of their small village. Why do we insist on propping up a government that no one there actually wants?


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By Spuke on 12/29/10, Rating: -1
RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By Skywalker123 on 12/30/2010 6:43:36 AM , Rating: 2
WWI showed us that we SHOULDN'T get involved.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By AssBall on 12/30/2010 9:59:35 AM , Rating: 2
We were doing "business" with England when Germany sunk our cruise ship. Of course we'd get involved.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By Iketh on 12/29/2010 6:23:05 PM , Rating: 1
Are those white supremacists controlling how you live? Of course, they would if they could, but that's another discussion. Don't compare apples to oranges.

Being over there is giving us plenty of experience in real-world (though not conventional) warfare. We have new technologies being put through the grinder and tactics being developed and honed.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By Spuke on 12/29/2010 6:53:54 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Being over there is giving us plenty of experience in real-world (though not conventional) warfare.
I don't care what white supremacists are doing. I mentioned that if we were invaded and they got wiped out, I wouldn't care nor would Afghani's care if their PITA's were removed from their presence. Not apples to oranges at all.

quote:
Being over there is giving us plenty of experience in real-world (though not conventional) warfare.
There is something to be said for real world knowledge of warfare. Quite frankly, I think we would STILL be involved militarily in the world without being in the BS world's police role. We would simply be asked to do things. Think about it. You have this huge, high tech military in a friendly country that minds it's own business for the most part. Someone's going to have a problem they can't handle (Kuwait was one) and would like some help. I have no issues with helping other countries that ask.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By maven81 on 12/29/2010 2:32:35 PM , Rating: 4
Um if we don't interfere with them what incentive do they have to do that? Do you think they just wake up one day and think hmm, I think we should blow up some buildings in the states!?
You don't get it. The neocons and the extremists need eachother. They need someone to point fingers at and scream "see! if we don't get them first they'll get us!" Places like Algeria has demonstrated that if you leave them be they simply turn on eachother and start killing eachother off on their own. (because then one group tries to prove to another that they are the ONLY true believers). This world police crap has to stop.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By AssBall on 12/29/2010 2:45:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Do you think they just wake up one day and think hmm, I think we should blow up some buildings in the states!?


They wake up every morning and blow up stuff in their own country. Never mind the terrorists the FBI foils everyday in the US. Do you even read the news?

I don't care that they kill themselves specifically, but we sure miss out on a lot of business and research collaborative opportunities when they are stuck in their 1000 year old pissing match that dribbles into adjacent countries while everyone else has freedom to develop and prosper.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By maven81 on 12/29/2010 3:03:38 PM , Rating: 2
"They wake up every morning and blow up stuff in their own country."

And our direct neighbors to the south, Mexico, are engaged in a very bloody drug war that occasionally spills over our border. (Which you can't say for say Afghanistan). So should we send troops to Mexico? They are a pretty significant trading partner after all.

"Never mind the terrorists the FBI foils everyday in the US. Do you even read the news?"

They are simply not that big of a threat. Even if say terrorits like the times square wannabe bomber succeeded in killing 10 people, we've probably had more deaths then that just as the result of the current snow storm! 3,000 people perished on 9/11 and we freaked out, yet tens of thousands die in car accidents every year! This is blown WAY out of proportion.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By Spuke on 12/29/10, Rating: 0
RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By maven81 on 12/29/2010 4:14:53 PM , Rating: 4
And you would be wrong. I lived in New York until 6 months ago and happened to be in the city on that day, and saw it with my own eyes. While in the beginning there was a lot of anger and frustration, after some time passed none of the people I've spoken with that lost relatives there were out for blood, because they knew that it would not bring anyone back. Remember, no one is denying that this is a tragedy. But ask any New Yorker if they wake up thinking they might get blown up today, and I bet most people will tell you they are much more worried about other things. In fact many of us are quite puzzled that most people that seemed to take this personally didn't even live in New York.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By Spuke on 12/29/2010 7:07:13 PM , Rating: 1
I think either I misunderstood you or you misunderstood me. I'll try it a different way. I'm not talking about people out for blood or people worried about getting blown up. The US fucked our response to 911 up. The people responsible SHOULD be found and brought to trial or even killed in the battlefield. If anything, they committed murder. That is a crime in the US punishable by at least some jail time. We had world support in finding these people and fucked it away by going to war with a country that had nothing or little to do with it. You should've seen my face when Congress declared war with Iraq. Unlike most of you clowns, I NEVER believe we should've been there but then I had some perspective being just out of the military.

quote:
In fact many of us are quite puzzled that most people that seemed to take this personally didn't even live in New York.
LOL! Because an attack on New York is just an attack on them, not the rest of the country. Sorry but the terrorists didn't pick the WTC, the Sears tower or the Pentagon because they hated New Yorkers, these are/were symbols of America. Of course, everyone takes it personal. We should all take an attack on ourselves personal. Are you even from this country? How could you not remember the other attacks?


By Skywalker123 on 12/30/2010 6:49:57 AM , Rating: 3
Congres didn't declare war on Iraq


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By Skywalker123 on 12/30/2010 6:47:38 AM , Rating: 2
The FBI doesn't "foil" terrorists everyday.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By AssBall on 12/30/2010 10:02:48 AM , Rating: 2
You'd be surprised.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By Spuke on 12/29/2010 3:16:57 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Um if we don't interfere with them what incentive do they have to do that?
Research WWII. Specifically, the US's position before we entered.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By Skywalker123 on 12/29/2010 11:03:00 PM , Rating: 2
What dictator drove planes into our buildings?


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By AssBall on 12/30/2010 10:07:48 AM , Rating: 2
Does hypothetical or explanation by example ring a bell in your nit-picking vocabulary?


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By tamalero on 12/29/10, Rating: 0
RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By Penti on 12/29/2010 2:27:28 PM , Rating: 2
US imbalances are not caused by the value of the RMB.

China still does less meddling then big european nations.

But just look at your own over valuation instead, and thats the reason why it's not affordable for your own automakers and manufacturers to produce and invest in the US and has moved everything to Mexico and Canada. You simply automatically get 20-30% more money/value by doing so. That's not true when say European companies invest in China, it's mainly other factors that are driving that, domestic chinease markets, lack of investments in facilities in other places, it's usually the same equipment that ends up in plants there as everywhere else, but those just looking for cheap labour are looking elsewhere. But many European companies have gone into and are going into or expanding in China because of the markets there i.e they do make money and production in other places of the world normally doesn't disappear. Sure companies are downsizing here too but other business grows. I'm sure China will have a floating currency ones you devalue or something to correct all your imbalances. In trade and budget.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By TheDoc9 on 12/29/2010 2:00:42 PM , Rating: 2
Much of China is filthy poor, they're military and technology has come so far in such a short time because of stealing secrets and the manufacturing of other nations advanced tech.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By wordsworm on 12/30/2010 8:27:45 AM , Rating: 2
Where do you think Russia and US got their rocket scientists from? All countries try to steal tech from other countries. If it wasn't for Chinese tech, we'd all still be in caves and ignorant of 0. Aside from cast iron, the compass, and ceramics, I can't think of how else we'd have any technology at all.

I also recall China's involvement in Vietnam resulting in a Vietnamese victory. It turns out that American machines are like their masters: loud and obnoxious. Easy to hear from far away and jump into a well dug hole.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By 91TTZ on 12/30/2010 12:58:48 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
If it wasn't for Chinese tech, we'd all still be in caves and ignorant of 0


That's absurd. They may have invented certain technology before others, but it's ridiculous to think that others wouldn't have invented it on their own.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By wordsworm on 12/30/2010 4:29:01 PM , Rating: 2
Many people assume that without western technology being stolen, they'd not have advanced so quickly. I was merely pointing out that the reverse can easily be shown as well.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By ekv on 1/1/2011 4:02:40 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
If it wasn't for Chinese tech, we'd all still be in caves and ignorant of 0
Not hardly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(number)

Furthermore, there is a difference tween luring scientists away from competitors and outright industrial espionage. Chinese theft is at magnitude like no other.

http://threatswatch.org/rapidrecon/2007/11/chinese...


By snakeInTheGrass on 1/1/2011 9:27:50 PM , Rating: 2
I think framing the Soviet and US rocket scientists (German) as having been 'lured' is kind of strange. His point was that the US/Soviets did more than steal secrets but stole people as well, and that nations have done that throughout history. Look at the patents around aspirin, technology stolen after WWII, during the cold war, etc. It's just nothing new.

Anyhow, I'll take the gunpowder but they can keep the delicious chicken feet.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By wordsworm on 1/3/2011 7:30:13 PM , Rating: 2
I'm guessing you didn't read the article that you linked to. If you had, you'd have seen that it states that China's been using zero and negative numbers since 4th century BC. It required Arabs to give it to us before we knew anything about it.

How about everyone take back their technology and see where we'd all be. We stop using 0, ceramics, cast-metal technology, hulled ships, compasses, etc. And they will stop using computers... wait, but they had computers before us, too. Geeze... what exactly have we done to contribute to the world? We invented rock-n-roll, right? I'm not trying to put Western achievement down. I'm simply stating that China has done its part and deserves whatever technology we have. One of these days you might come to realize how awesome China has been over the last 2.5 thousand years. But only with an open and inquiring mind will you discover it.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By ekv on 1/3/2011 9:05:33 PM , Rating: 2
I have a degree in mathematics. What is your degree in, history? If you want to cherry pick from the Wikipedia article, yes, the Chinese had a concept of zero and negative numbers. However! Babylonian and Indian scholars also had similar concepts, pre-dating the Chinese by several centuries. Even the Greeks had an idea of zero around the time you reference. As far as Arabic influence, even that wasn't "required".

For you to state
quote:
If it wasn't for Chinese tech, we'd all still be in caves and ignorant of 0
is incorrect. Even re-stating your argument in terms of 'intending' to demonstrate the superiority of Chinese culture and technology I remain a skeptic. Especially given their level of industrial espionage. If you don't believe me, then just ask Google. China "deserves" a punch in the nose.

But then you add,
quote:
I'm not trying to put Western achievement down
after having said,
quote:
It turns out that American machines are like their masters: loud and obnoxious.
Well, which is it? If you're not putting me down, then why are you putting me down?

Listen to me. Answer. Or are you not open to that?


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By wordsworm on 1/6/2011 9:27:36 AM , Rating: 2
I guess to get a mathematics degree they don't require papers to provide references for claims. It's different with English literature I suppose. That's why I provided the reference to Wikipedia. More from Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_numerals: "The Babylonians did not technically have a digit for, nor a concept of, the number zero." Maybe you can pick up the argument with the references used in the Wiki article. As to the rest of your claims, I don't feel like tracking them down to find out if you're right or not. It's too bad that the degree in mathematics didn't include an English lit course or two to help you with reading. When I read both the articles on zero and Babylon, I did so with an open mind. I don't care if I'm right or wrong. I'm merely arguing using facts that I have gleaned from reading.

Where do you think the west got Chinese technology in the first place? I said I wasn't trying to put Western achievement down. I have no problem with complaining about how loud and obnoxious you are, and most of the anti-Chinese rhetoric here is. There's nothing wrong with China or Chinese people. It's a great country.

If any country deserves a bloody nose for its behaviour over the last 10 years, I'd have to say that America is on the top of the list. Vietnam, Cambodia, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan... when is America going to stop killing people? How many countries has China invaded?


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By ekv on 1/8/2011 3:32:48 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
That's why I provided the reference to Wikipedia.
Excuse me, but aren't you a little confused? I provided the Wiki link. You follow with Babylonian Numerals, but your quote stopped short. Why? Because the VERY next sentence says "Although they understood the idea..." I guess the facts just don't support your claims of Chinese superiority. Further, you apparently have selective memory for all your reading skill, since in the link I provided "The concept of zero as a number and not merely a symbol for separation is attributed to India where by the 9th century AD practical calculations were carried out using zero..." Where is the lineage for zero coming from China? Is that an 'exercise left for the reader'?
quote:
I don't care if I'm right or wrong.
I don't believe you. In fact, you don't even believe that. Would you like proof? Suppose that the person who makes the food you eat does not care about right or wrong. Then by that standard it's ok to add melamine. Right? I mean, so what if it's wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_protein_adult...
Or how about the person that makes out your paycheck. If they short you a couple bucks, so what, no? Or the papers you turn in, so what if the references are bogus. Your prof's will never know the difference, right? Care to wager on that?
quote:
Where do you think the west got Chinese technology in the first place?
Instead of leveling false accusations against me, perhaps you ought to open your mind to remedial English grammar. Or were you trying to ask me something like 'In what country do you find the Panama Canal?'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZgsczUhvOk
If you're going to insult me, at least double-check your own work.

But then there are the facts regarding Chinese industrial espionage. Did you read that with an open mind as well? lol. So what you do is ignore and/or deflect criticism away from it. Or better, you just "don't feel like tracking" down facts contrary to your opinion.

http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/5821-communist-pi...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_intelligence_...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/22/german...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70638U201101...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aurora

quote:
There's nothing wrong with China or Chinese people.
If you're so pro-China, please just move there and renounce any supposed citizenship you may have here. You'd be on the leading edge of the new trend. Lastly, by your logic, if there's nothing wrong with them, there's nothing wrong with U.S.A. Except I'm man enough to know better and ask the hard questions. God bless....


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By bug77 on 12/29/2010 1:36:57 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
We pose no threat to other countries


The catch is the definition of "other countries". Tibet, Taiwan...


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By zixin on 12/29/10, Rating: -1
RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By bh192012 on 12/29/2010 4:21:05 PM , Rating: 3
Maybe, but the voters (people) of Hawaii voted overwhelmingly to become part of the US.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By Danish1 on 12/30/2010 9:38:04 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Tibet and Taiwan are not their own countries.


Yea lets ignore what the people of Tibet and Taiwan want...

The wish of the people > national ambitions you ignorant smug.

Also, AFAIK and as somewhat mentioned then all the newer US pacific territories voted to become part of the US but I'm sure you don't understand the difference between wanting to and being forced to.


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By NanoTube1 on 12/29/2010 2:31:07 PM , Rating: 2
Confucius say: "No more cheese for you bad boy!"
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RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By MADAOO7 on 12/29/2010 6:53:12 PM , Rating: 2
If they melt more than 10 cheeses do I still get the free soda or egg roll?


RE: China: We no threat to nobody!
By psychmike on 12/29/2010 8:59:58 PM , Rating: 5
The US has major bases in proximity. It has sailed carriers into the region whenever it has disagreed with a country's foreign policy. It has overthrown democratically-elected governments (e.g., Guatemala) while supporting oppressive regimes (e.g, Saudi Arabia). It intervenes on humanitarian grounds in some cases (e.g, Yugoslavia) while not intervening in others (e.g., East Timor).

Like any other country, the US primarily pursues its own interests. It doesn't act simply out of principle. That's not a criticism, it's just a fact. Political realism has strong roots in the US (e.g., Mearsheimer, Waltz).

Given that fact, China aims to become a regional power. It has a LONG history of conflict with many of its neighbours including India and Japan. It aims to pursue its own interests and sees the US as intrusive in its backyard.

Outright conflict is unlikely as both sides would have too much to lose. It is not credible to paint China as a peer competitor to the US or to view it as an aggressor. The US is at least 20 years ahead of China in most areas of military technology (metallurgy, stealth, AESA).

The best thing that the US can do is to manage the rise of other powers and strive for a balance between regional players (e.g., balancing India against China, Iraq against Iran). It's silly for the guy with the biggest bat on the block to cry for sympathy when someone else wants to pick up a stick.


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