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Lexus CT 200h
Lexus announces pricing, EPA numbers for its newest hybrid

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RE: Who's going to buy this car?
By GulWestfale on 12/15/2010 5:10:07 PM , Rating: 2
why matrix/corolla?
because it has the exact same wheelbase, and the exact same suspension (macpherson struts in front, double wishbones in back)

the avensis, by the way, is related closely to the scion tC and slots in between the corolla and camry in the european market.

RE: Who's going to buy this car?
By chrnochime on 12/15/2010 5:54:29 PM , Rating: 2
It's based more on the avensis than the corolla, but apparently that fact is lost on you.

And WTH is "acceleration is confident"? That just means it accelerates like a snail just like the 2.0L N/A VW gas engine. The mpg might be better than the CT but the acceleration is still slow at 8.9. Yes it's better than the CT200h's 9.8 but that's not saying much.

But congrats on owning a TDI. Really, that's like the only car in VW that owners aren't complaining about the crapload of engine related problems. You only have to deal with the electrical problems LOL

RE: Who's going to buy this car?
By GulWestfale on 12/15/2010 7:43:44 PM , Rating: 2
how is this a fact? because toyota marketing says so? the wheelbase is 4 inches shorter than the avensis', and matches the corolla's. it also uses the same suspension setup as the corolla.
and even if it were an avensis in drag instead of a corolla wagon aka matrix in drag, it'd still be very overpriced as the avensis is quite a lot smaller than a camry.

RE: Who's going to buy this car?
By liquidaim on 12/15/2010 9:14:46 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with "GulWestfale". this puppy indeed looks like it could be based on the matrix chassis. Too bad it doesn't have the 1.8L 2ZZFE (or Duzzie) engine of the original matrix xrs / celica GTS. This thing has sooo much potential with that engine, a specially tuned version of this engine is also used in the Lotus Elise.

compare matrix dimensions:

with ct200h:

I've been researching wagons lately to see how things will pan out for that segment when I'm ready to buy another in 2017/2018.

I have a 2003 matrix xrs and love it, especially the fold flat front passenger seat.

For my next car I would like to get a similar hot hatchback with similar or larger dimensions.

I hope this becomes a success and BMW finally brings the 1 series 5door stateside. a reardrive 5 door hatch...mmmm yummy.

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