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Chevrolet Volt window sticker
93 mpg on battery power, 37 mpg on gasoline power

After a cluster bomb that was unleashed yesterday when the Nissan Leaf was rated for an EPA estimated 99 mpg -- even though it is a "battery only" vehicle -- General Motors is dropping a bunch of digits on us when it comes to the EPA rating for its Chevrolet Volt.

According to the window sticker that will be plastered on all new Volts sold in the U.S., the vehicle is rate at an equivalent of 93 mpg when running on electricity, and a more sedate 37 mpg when the gasoline engine kicks in after the battery is depleted. This two figures combined give the Volt a "composite" rating of 60 mpg.

And here are some more numbers -- the Volt will have an official "battery only" range of 35 miles, while the total driving range (taking into account the batteries and the gasoline tank) will be 379 miles.

When the Volt was first announced, GM said that the vehicle would have a 40-mile range when running on battery power. The company recently revised that figure to 25-50 miles.

The Volt will go on sale later this month with a price tag of $41,000 before a $7,500 federal tax credit.



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RE: Not so stellar, but...
By goku on 11/25/2010 4:06:27 AM , Rating: 0
The Prius is a $22K car, the Volt is $43K car with a $7500 tax credit that really only benefits wealthy people.. So, for $35K after tax, you can have a car that will average 60mpg via this ridiculous government math or you can have a car that costs $22K that averages 50mpg via sensible math or you can have the Ford Fiesta for $14K that averages 33mpg via again the sensible math. The Volt never makes sense and while averaging can make the situation look not so bad, if you factor in the fact that the effective range will decrease with cold temperatures henceforth using the gasoline engine, the real world MPG of the Volt should be significantly less, somewhere similar to the Prius. Even worse, if your power is generated primarily by coal, then this car will be dirtier than the Prius. All just so you can claim to be green without actually BEING GREEN or SAVING GREEN.

Want an economical new car? Get the Fiesta. Want a new "green" car? Get the Prius. Want a car that isn't very good at anything at all while costing a butt load of money? Get the Volt. If economics and the environment is your #1 concern, then do none of the above and just buy any used car that gets at least 30mpg or better for any price less than $14K. Doing this will save you your wallet and the environment, far more than by buying into any of the solutions proposed above!


RE: Not so stellar, but...
By Chillin1248 on 11/25/2010 8:45:57 AM , Rating: 3
Some good points there.

I personally drive a Daihatsu Sirion 1.3L Petrol and it manages 48.7 MPG on a all gas drive. So don't mind me if I am a little underwhelmed at the Volt.

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RE: Not so stellar, but...
By Flunk on 11/25/2010 9:20:55 AM , Rating: 2
The MPG on this article is the EPA rating, which is in American gallons. Which are smaller than imperial gallons. The numbers aren't comparable.

But I do get your point, there isn't a big gap in fuel efficiency between hybrids and smaller, all gas cars.


RE: Not so stellar, but...
By Masospaghetti on 11/25/2010 7:03:19 PM , Rating: 2
How much does your Daihatsu weigh? How much would be left after a frontal collision with a Suburban? How many 200 lb Americans can fit inside if your car?

I get 120 mpg on my 2-stroke Yamaha...

48.7 mpg is great, but this is obviously not a serious comparison.


RE: Not so stellar, but...
By goku on 11/26/2010 12:26:57 AM , Rating: 2
That car isn't sold in the United States, either in the UK or in Japan so the part about the suburban is irrelevant. The car weighs around 1937lbs, very similar in weight to the CRX HF, Civic VX hatch, Metro hatch, and a few other gas sippers. From my knowledge about all Honda Civics including the VX, it can carry an additional 800lbs in terms of not violating the Maxmium GVWR, despite the vehicle weighing 2100lbs. Most cars, even really heavy cars (think 4-5K lbs) don't really have a carrying capacity of more than about 1000LBs and that's to ensure good ride quality and handling properties. A vehicle with a lot of carrying capacity is usually one that doesn't ride very well at all, such as a pickup truck.

To give you an example, the Lexus LS430 has a carrying capacity of 1150Lbs despite weighing 4000lbs. To further illustrate this desire of manufacturers to limit a car's carrying capacity, try comparing two Honda civics of the same body style, like the 1999 Civic Si Coupe M/T and the 1999 Civic DX Coupe M/T. The Si weighs 2610lbs while the DX with the M/T weighs 2335lbs. Yet instead of both vehicles having the same Maximum GVWR, the Si has a Maximum GVWR that is conveniently about 275lbs greater than the DX despite them sharing the same chassis and there being a small difference in weight.


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